Islam only scares the insecure

LOL
The GAZA people VOTED for HAMAS on the theory HAMAS would attack and exterminate Israel.

By vote they ALL are the terrorists.

 

LOL

All GAZA voted for terrorism (90%), thru HAMAS, and now they cry "citizen" when Israel hits them back.

 

Israel needs to do what a policeman does.

In GAZA, they need eliminate all these terrorists with full force, especially since the West Bank now joined in.

 

What will happen soon is that Israel will recognize that Christ was The Elijah, returned in 32AD, and doing the Seven Miracles which their Tradition long taught:

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=245&letter=E&search=elijah#650

When this happens, Christians will see that Israel survives as they flood there as tourists and pilgrims.

Then, together, they will convert Islam to Christ.
They will show that Allah is Truth, and has a father in the Reality which unfolds moment by moment.
God is Reality and His son is Truth.

 

If only it did that instead of steal land eh?

Well that just isn't possible. Better step would be to attempt some sense of international recognition and reconciliation - put the ball back in the park of Palestinians so they are indeed forced to meet Israel half way. But that's all ideals. Both sides simply want total victory and do destroy each other - theyre too self absorbed with a sense of violent self-righteousness and a need for revenge to act peaceably. They're really as bad as each other.

 

Please don’t bother me with your chauvinistic, pseudo-pro-Israel end-time fantasies, that are insulting to any Jew, Muslim and sane Christian. If you want to prepare for God’s Kingdom on Earth: work for justice and peace.

 

Haha ah well said sir

 

What came first, Hamas or the occupation?

Exactly.

 

The Bible is what will change Israel to see elijah as the messiah of 32AD:


They both did the same miracles, which was traditionally supposed to identify Elijah when would come back.

Both Elijah and Jesus raised the dead

Both Elijah and Jesus were immortal.

Both Elijah and Jesus disappeared from the foot of a mountain.

Both Elijah and Jesus ascended into Heaven before witnesses.

Both Elijah and Jesus troubled Israel.

Both Elijah and Jesus were hunted down by the Jewish authorities.

Both Elijah and Jesus hid in a cave/tomb.

Both Elijah and Jesus pondered in the wilderness 40 days.

Both Elijah and Jesus walked on the water.

Both wrote letters to people on Earth after they had ascended.

Both appointed a successor, Elisha by Elijah, and Peter, by Christ.

Both were hunted by the Jewish authorities

Both gave a successor the power to raise the dead

Both gave a successor a symbolic authority, the cloak to one, the keys to the other.

Both asked that the this "cup" be taken from them.

Both are said to have had miraculous births.

Both multiplied the meal for many people they feed in the crowd

Both destroyed the pagan worshippers and priests, one Baal, the other, the Pantheon of Rome.

Both were promised faithfulness three times, Elisha in the former and Peter, in the latter.

 

What came first was the Palestinians tried to steal the land from Israel in 1948, and again a couple more times.

They invaded, were beaten in War, and now they are crying for land they lost and ran away from.
But they don't want the land which they Israel left them.

They want Israel to leave and move somewhere else.

 

Yes he said the first thing that came to his mind.

For Jews to accept Jesus as The Elijah, returned in 32AD, they need answer 1 Kings verses and see that i am right:



1) Both Elijah and Christ raised the dead:

1 Kings 17:22.. And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived.

John 12:1 Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where .Lazarus was, which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.

2) Both Elijah, who never dies, and Christ were immortal:

2 Kings 2:1 And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal

John 20:25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the LORD. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

3) Both Elijah and Christ. ascended into Heaven before witnesses:

2 Kings 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. .
12..And Elisha saw it,.

Luke 24:.51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven

4) Both Elijah and Christ troubled Israel:

1 Kings 18:17 And it came to pass, when Ahab saw Elijah that Ahab said unto him, Art thou he that troubleth Israel?

Matthew 2:3 When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born..

5) Both Elijah and Christ were threatened by the authorities with death:

1 Kings 19:14.. And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: because the children of ..I..srael have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and .I. .even I only .am .left..; and they seek my life, to take it away

John 11:53 Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death

6) Both Elijah and Christ.... were hunted by the Jewish authorities:

1 Kings 19:14 And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: because the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away

Then said some of them of Jerusalem, Is not this he, whom they seek to kill?

7) Both Elijah and Christ.... hid in a cave/tomb:

1 Kings 19:9 And he came thither unto a cave, and lodged there; and, behold, the word of the LORD came to him, and he said unto him, What doest thou here, Elijah?

Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth...

Both Elijah and Christ pondered in the wilderness 40 days and forty nights:....

1 Kings 19:8 And he arose, and did eat and drink, and went in the strength of that meat forty days and forty nights unto Horeb the mount of God

Matthew 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.

9) Both Elijah and Christ. walked on across the water

2 Kings 2:8.. And Elijah took his mantle, and wrapped it together, and smote the waters, and they were divided hither and thither, so that they two went over on dry ground

Matthew 14:25 And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea

10) Both Elijah and Christ let a person follow them across the water:

2 Kings 2:14.. And he took the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and smote the waters, and said, Where is the LORD God of Elijah? and when he also had smitten the waters, they parted hither and thither: and Elisha went over

Matthew 14:29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water to go to Jesus.

11) Both Elijah and Christ.... wrote only one thing, a letter, to people on Earth AFTER they had ascended:

2 Chronicles 21:12 And there came a writing to him from ..Elijah.. the prophet, saying, Thus saith the LORD God of David thy father, Because thou hast not walked in the ways of Jehoshaphat thy father, nor in the ways of Asa king of Judah,

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

12) Both Elijah and Christ appointed a successor, Elisha, by Elijah, and Peter, by Christ:

2 Kings 2:9.. And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And ..Elisha.. said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me

Matthew 16:18.. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this .rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

13) Both Elijah and Christ gave a successor the power to raise the dead:

2 Kings 8:5.. And it came to pass, as he was telling the king how he had restored a dead body to life, that, behold, the woman, whose son he had restored to life, cried to the king for her house and for her land. And Gehazi said, My lord, O king, this is the woman, and this is her son, whom ..Elisha.. restored to life.
Acts 9:40 But Peter put them all forth, and kneeled down, and ..prayed..; and turning him to the body said, Tabitha, arise. And she opened her eyes: and when she saw Peter, she sat up

14) Both Elijah and Christ gave a successor the power to heal:

2 Kings 5:10.. And Elisha sent a messenger unto him, saying, Go and wash in Jordan seven times, and thy flesh shall come again to thee, and thou shalt be clean

Acts 3:6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk

15) Both Elijah and Christ gave a successor a symbolic authority, the cloak to one, the keys to the other:

1 Kings 19:19.. So he departed thence, and found Elisha the son of Shaphat, who was plowing with twelve yoke of oxen before him, and he with the twelfth: and Elijah passed by him, and cast his mantle upon him.

Matthew 16:19.. And I will give unto thee the keys.of the kingdom.. of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven

16) Both Elijah and Christ. asked that the this "cup" be taken from them:

1Kings 19:4 .But he himself went a day's journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a juniper tree: and he requested for himself that he might die (because he was afraid of what was coming from Jezebel: [1Kings 19:3]), and said, "It is enough (they seek my life, to take it away: [1Kings 19:10]); now, O LORD, take away my life; for I am not better than my fathers."

Matthew 26:39 And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, (because he began to show grief and distress of mind and was deeply depressed: [Matt 26:37]), let this cup pass from me (It is enough: [1Kings 19:4]): nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

17) Both Elijah and Christ have been said to have had miraculous births:

Jewish Encyclopedia:
Three different theories regarding Elijah's origin are presented in the Haggadah: Mention must be made of a statement which, though found only in the later cabalistic literature (Yal?u? Reubeni, Bere(*)(*)(*)(*), 9a, ed. Amsterdam), seems nevertheless to be very old (see Epiphanius, l.c.), and according to which Elijah was an angel in human form, so that he had neither parents nor offspring.
See also Melchizedek.

Matthew1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

1 Both Elijah and Christ destroyed pagan worshippers and priests. Elijah destroyed the priests of Baal; Christ, the Pantheon of Rome, 380AD:

IKi 18:40 And Elijah said unto them, Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape. And they took them: and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there.

History: Universal Christianity in 380AD:
Revelation 20:4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands.
They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years (32AD -1054AD)

19) Both Elijah and Christ were promised faithfulness three times, Elisha in the former and Peter, in the latter.

2 Kings 2:2.. I will not leave thee. So they went down to Bethel
2 Kings 2:4.. I will not leave thee. So they came to Jericho
2 Kings 2:6.. I will not leave thee. And they two went on

John 21:17.. He saith unto him the third time,... "Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, "Lovest thou me?"

20) Both Elijah and Christ. condemned a Jezebel:

2 Kings 9:36 Wherefore they came again, and told him. And he said, This is the word of the LORD, which he spake by his servant Elijah the Tishbite, saying, In the portion of Jezreel shall dogs eat the flesh of Jezebel:

Rev 2:20 ..Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds..

21) Both Elijah and Christ re-dedicated the Israelite people to God by raising up a new altar or temple:

1 Ki 18:30.. And ..Elijah.. said unto all the people, Come near unto me. And all the people came near unto him. And he repaired the altar of the LORD that was broken down. And Elijah took twelve stones, according to the number of the tribes of the sons of Jacob, unto whom the word of the LORD came, saying, Israel shall be thy name:

John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up.

22) Both Elijah and Christ chose one man upon which to build his following:

2 Kings 2:15 And when the sons of the prophets which were to view at Jericho saw him, they said, The spirit of Elijah doth rest on Elisha. And they came to meet him, and bowed themselves to the ground before him

Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and ..upon.. this ..rock.. I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

23) Both Elijah and Christ were subject of a three day 'search' for their presence:

2 Kings 2:1 And when they urged him till he was ashamed, he said, Send.
They sent therefore fifty men; and they sought three days, but found him not.

Luke 2:46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.

 

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Where to begin....

Okay, firstly, the one who stole this land - and continues it today through settlement expansion - was the Zionist immigrants from Europe. Do you know what aliyah is? No, not the singer.

Two, Palestinians didn't run away, or invade... 'Israel' displaced hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to acquire more land and make room for more immigrants through terrorism. They also did not have an army to invade. It was the Zionists who invaded.

Three... gaining land through conquest is illegal in the 20th century.


I love how you just completely rewrote history.

 

Excellent point.

 

Was the vote unanimous? There was no dissent?
Or do you support Obama and all his works because , after all, he's our POTUS by vote.

 

I was talking about the parallels between us and terrorists in this statement. How can we condemn terrorism when it is a tool of our diplomacy?

 

You haven't read much about what the Taliban did to their country, nor much about the modern Netherlands.

 

What makes you think that, and how does that counter my point?

Sorry but insults are hard to follow when they're that indirect.

 

Before the Arabs tried to conquer and kill the Jews in 1948, there was no land grabbing.

Once the PLO people attacked, thy lost and ran away.
Then, because Israel tried to be more agreeable with them, they used the last 70 years to essentially continue the battle on a lower level, and pretend they want a state next to Israel.

What they want is no Israel.

And, genetic evidence today PROVES these Jews today are the same peoples who were pushed out by Rome.

 

If 90% of the people in Gaza voted for HAMAS who ran on the ticket of terrorism, how can you condemn Israel for bombing them all, the rocket guy and any of those voters who also get killed????

Aren't they ALL terrorists by the election results?

 

There was "no dissent."
The vote was 90% for HAMAS and 10% for the PLO politicians.
They ALL want Israel dead and gone.

They ALL are terrorists, men, women, and children.

 

The UN aided the land grabbing prior to 1948 with the partition. And the war had nothing to do with killing Jews. The war was started because for years leading up to it Zionists were massacring Palestinians and using terrorism to drive out nearly a million Palestinians from their homes. Finally the Arab states said enough is enough, after it provocatively declared independence.

The PLO didn't exist until 1964.

And yes, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians fled fearing they would be killed by the Zionist entity like it did leading up to the 1948 war.

Abbas has done everything during these peace talks to make "Israel" happy. He's a fool who finally realized he's wasting his own time.

You are aware during peace talks "Israel" goes out of its way to derail them by expanding settlements and even going as far as killing Palestinians?

Peace is a threat to "Israel's" existence. Just like Arab babies.

What good has "Israel" brought to the people of the region? Why should Palestinians accept "Israel"?

Actually, it doesn't. It shows there was intermarriages with Europeans. That's about it. Khazar theory hasn't been debunked yet and many Jews will tell you that.

There was always a Jewish presence in Palestine, and before Zionism there wasn't any issues. It's no coincidence that once Zionists began mass immigrating, problems occurred.

 

The terrorism against the British was aimed at making them stick to their Balfour Letter proclamations, not against arabs.

You facts are wrong.
And the Genetic Studies to which I refer were all aimed at the priesthood.
They show they are all genetically related to just one man, their common forefather, who lived 3362 years ago.
This also confirms Exodus, too, having been written at that time.

 

Israel is great little democracy that is living very very high in omparison to what the Palestinians have accomplished during these 70 years.
But you are right.

There is no reason for the HAMAS to accept Israel, and the Jews need face this fact now and destroy their enemy before they get weapons which will not be so easily over come.

 

Actually, wasn't some of the land given to the Zionists by Britain and UN? After WWII?

 

You've been brainwashed on yet again another subject. Surprising, not.
You think Israel is completely the victim here.