15 an hour is winning in Seattle despite conservative grumbling

I see you declined to substantiate your claims with actual figures. I don't suppose there are any other liberal takers that can refute the law of demand?

 

The talk and results in San Jose speaks for itself for progressive ideas. It is what it is. Just proves those dinosaur Republican ideas of austerity by strangling the economy by not investing in the workers, does nothing but keep an economy down.

 

Don't forget, your statement is a generalization and that many if not most companies only hire as many people as it takes to get the Job done so they are not able to lay off staff.

 

We'll, seeing that I have already posted real evidence from my last link, maybe you yourself can argue the point with the economists themselves who also say raising minimum wage is good for the economy; http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...mum-wage-reduces-poverty/?tid=pm_business_pop

http://www.epi.org/publication/raising-federal-minimum-wage-to-1010/

 

IN 20 years Seattle will look like Detroit.

 

How clueless can you get? The economy wouldn't be booming because of a simple minimum wage hike. This economy isn't Obama's fault, it's not even Bush's "fault", it's a natural result of globalization.

The fact that you think there are quick fixes to this dragging economy is a sign of utter stupidity

edit: Just straight up retarded stupidity

 

We'll, we certainly found out San Jose California isn't looking like Detroit with a minimum wage hike.

 

This is not a smart statement.

 

Clearly you have demonstrated a sample size big enough to offset any variables in the rest of the nation. San Jose fool, case closed. Boom.

 

It isn't a natural result of globalization. It is a result of myriad factors that are the "fault" of those myriad factors.

I'm guessing this won't have that big of an impact on Seattle, but it will increase unemployment.

 

The result of a $15.00 an hour minimum wage?

One word...

inflation

 

There will likely be a combination of reduction of direct and indirect labor content as well as product value.

 

LOL

I pay my interns, who have bachelors degress aligned with the services we offer, $15 an hour.

These kids are part way through their education, have college educations that afford them skills and knowledge far in excess of low skill workers, and they are happy to accept the positions.

Those who advocate for $15 as a minimum wage are simply out of touch with reality. My first job out of college in 2002 was $14.42 an hour and I had a bachelors degree in architecture.

You guys are nuts. End of story.

 

Why don't you give the folks in San Jose a call. I'm sure they would love to give you some lessons on how their arithmetic has been working out for them.

 

I welcome experiments like this. I am just always surprised when we do not learn from mistakes. Min wages are always bad, but $15/hr in Seattle is not as bad as it would be in Knoxville. When people propose a national min wage increase of 40%, they just sound stupid.

 

Why dont you give my neighbors a call, they just put in a super pimp pool. They are self employed and have no employees. By your ignorant stat perspective, my neighbors clearly show that every employee should be fired and pimp ass pools will rain down on business owners.

 

The thing about me is I present a sample; http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...mum-wage-reduces-poverty/?tid=pm_business_pop. What have you presented to destroy that argument other than rhetoric? Why are economists wrong and you are not?

 

Just as I figured. You are scared of a little math. Move along. You and your argument just drowned in the pimp ass pool of your neighbors.

 

Large cities are having trouble waiting for the federal and state governments to get off their butts. Rent is sky high in these cities. And the class divide is wider than anywhere else in America. These cities desperately need their working poor to be paid fair wages. Because they are moving out of the city in droves.

 

So, some dude named Dube writes a paper favoring a min wage increase, and the Post claims consensus. I have an Industrial Economics Masters and while I am not into peer reviewed writings so much as appeasing stock holders, I disagree with Dube. I bet a quick Google would get some anti-Dubes.

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I am petrified of San Jose math.

 

I agree. Local govts should take this issue up. There is too much cost of living variation to intelligently pursue a large national min wage increase.

 

Read your own article, that happened last fall, not 20 years ago.

 

Businesses are fleeing California. A wage hike will add one more reason to do so.

 

your definition of "fair" wage is subjective at best....


I think it's fair to pay for work at market value. If that's not enough, take your skillset somewhere that pays higher.... if noone will pay higher for your skillset... maybe you should reevaluate your marketability....

 

Detroit was pegged to the auto industry and was heavily unionized. Just as Gary Indiana was pegged to the steel industry and was also heavily unionized. Both cities lost their meal ticket industries and look at them now. San Jose is a bad analogy.