Races Aren't Superior But Cultures Are

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  1. JPRD

    JPRD New Member

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    I am indeed looking at this question from the perspective of one raised in western culture, and also a small-town perspective, an American perspective, a Christian perspective, and from the perspective of a Constitutional conservative. You accurately state that other cultures may not perceive that the things I mentioned as being important are not important in their culture. This fact is one of the reasons I suggested we discuss attributes of a superior culture, not the ethnicity, skin color, religion, history, or geographical location of a culture.

    If you read my other post in this thread, you'll have noticed that I listed love, self-confidence, self-control, civility, objectivity, and the desire for knowledge. Many additional such qualities could easily be added. The fact that “some” cultures may not find these attributes valuable speaks volumes as to that culture’s worthiness! Unless that culture can sensibly argue that hate, a lack of self-control, incivility, unquestioning acceptance of dogmas, and a willingness to accept stupidity are worthy attributes, the culture is inferior! I’d love to see someone make a strong case for such cultural norms. Doesn’t this make sense?
     
  2. creation

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    I agree cultures are superior. Races are not so much.

    Theres no such thing as white culture, as whites exist across vastly different cultural areas.
     
  3. Ronstar

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    furthermore, many white cultures such as the USA, Russia, are very very inferior.
     
  4. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    Inferior to what?
     
  5. Rainbow Crow

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    Because there's differences between people, including between white people, not to mention the geographic and geopolitical differences.
     
  6. Sadistic-Savior

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    That would seem to indicate that race is not the primary variable to success, right? If it was, nations with more white people in them should be more successful.

    The nations with the highest concentrations of white people are not the most successful. If race equaled success, this should not be the case.
     
  7. creation

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    To other cultures within white areas.
     
  8. Rainbow Crow

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    Nations with more white people are more successful. It's not a linear relationship, not the only factor but it's still true. This isn't complicated.

    One of the problems with "white privilege" is that it doesn't actually help anyone who buys into it to better themselves. It's a pile of excuses and can easily manifest as an excuse to not better oneself because the things that white people do right get written off as a form of "privilege" instead of being studied for the value inherent to the behaviors.
     
  9. saintmichaeldefendthem

    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    Here's an example of an inferior culture, particularly New Guinea, which hasn't been fully Westernized yet. I'm going to embolden the more disturbing details and warn the reader that what they're about to read is truly horrifying:

     
  10. wyly

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    what is superior is very subjective...
     
  11. wyly

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    Think it will do any good?....they're so indoctrinated into their beliefs they've gone deaf and blind to any contrary evidence that may conflict with the world as they imagine it to be...
     
  12. Texsdrifter

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    If you use longevity to decide the superior culture, the longest lived culture is the aboriginal people of Australia. Well over 40,000 years and until recently completely of their own making. Western civilization is not that long lived and is already changing to globalization. Most likely by the turn of the century China will be the most advanced country in the world. They will owe much of that to the advancement made before them just like we do now.

    Our culture in the context you use it is dependent on evolving and our technology constantly increasing at a faster rate. If we fail we end up like failed civilizations of the past. More of a gambling culture IMO we have to keep letting it ride and hope we don't role craps.

    I see my culture on a micro level what I teach my children, how I enjoy living. When judging culture as a collective then only history can judge, so if humans are still around 40,000 years from now they will be the judge of our culture IMO.
     
  13. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    Wow, 40,000 years and they were still dirt clod primitive when Australia was discovered and made into a penal colony. I think you just proved my point. Thanks.
     
  14. Texsdrifter

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    Being more advanced and superior are two very different things. Many advanced cultures died out if ours follow their fate then I fail to see the superiority. Our culture is very young and already changing so I do not find it superior just more advanced.
     
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    Not at all, it's like arguing with a fence post.
     
  16. wyly

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    correct...technology isn't the guage that measures the superiorty of one culture vs another...
     
  17. wyly

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    but then there is the odd case like my whiter than white mother, absolutely horrified by any color other than white told me never bring home anything but a white girl....:roll::evil: then I brought home my asian fiancé and mom had a choice to make....years later she apologized saying "I was wrong even old people can still learn", she came to absolutely adore my wife...
     
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    Care to show any other culture who has gone through the cycle of an ice age. And although you dismiss them, they have an extremely well developed moral code.
     
  19. Glock

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    Yep, the sad part is that is not an isolated incident. Too many people go through the same situation as your mom, only to realize that their prejudices were unfounded.

    Kudos to your perseverance.
     
  20. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    Length of existence is your criteria for esteeming civilizations. Mine is much broader entailing far more factors. Did you see my example of an inferior culture I posted on page 21? I don't blame you if you don't want to read it all, but a culture that murders 2/3 of it's children and sexually abuses those that survive is an inferior culture, no matter how long they've been around.
     
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    I remember Anthony Bordain doing a foodie trip to Syria - At the start of the show he expressed the concerns he and the producer of the show had to how Americans and Syrians would interact. As the show unfolds we see a bunch of Syrians and a bunch of Americans sitting around stuffing their face, realizing both cultures were surprisingly similar given the obvious differences.

    Rather than worry if a culture is superior or not. I much prefer to enjoy the things that bring us together and explore the things that make us different
     
  22. wyly

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    Woah! ...yeah that's true I never occured to me they're a tremendously old culture...at the moment can't think of any other culture that can verify an existence for that span of time...
     
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    It's happening, just slowly. There are already "Islamic" zones in places like France and England. Possibly Germany also.
     
  24. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    Since the Aboriginals were heralded as a superior culture because of how long they've been around, I thought I'd go ahead and describe them from the same link. Again the same warning, don't read this if you are easily disturbed by graphic descriptions of child abuse:

    So tell me some more, Texsdrifter, about how great a civilization the Australian aboriginals were.
     
  25. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    Based on my last post, do you still stand by your absurd claim that the Aboriginals had "an extremely well developed moral code"?

    I didn't think so.
     

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