Races Aren't Superior But Cultures Are

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With minor reservation I agree. Some attribute the high success of Western Civilization in bringing civilization to the whole world to white people, but I attribute it to a superior culture based on superior concepts. It started out as a white civilization albeit that between the Mediterranean region to the Netherland regions there are several different shades of "white". But it isn't exclusively white because all races who have embraced and become part of Western Civilization have partaken of its success and perpetuated it too. Consider the INFERIOR cultures that have benefitted from Western influence:

1. African nations. Though civil strife persists, African nations are better able to feed themselves having been given modern farming techniques and technology. And they've embraced the blessings of Christianity to the point that the Deputy President of Kenya rebuked Obama for trying to promote gay marriage in their country, saying Kenya is a God fearing nation.

2. Natives of North and South America and Australia. Consider how even the ancient Egyptians were more advanced than were Native Americans in both continents. Ancient Mesopotamian civilizations built cities, ran international trade, developed metallurgy, masonry, and advanced woodwork, and invented the wheel. Compare that to the people of the New World who accomplished none of that and, apart from the intervention of Western Civilization, would have remained to this day small warring tribes living brutish, pointless lives

3. The Pacific Islands. Hawaii, the Philippines, Samoa, New Guinea, Polynesia were islands inhabited by vicious, cannibalistic tribes constantly at war with each other, constantly undercutting their numbers through ritualistic murder, and human sacrifice. Today they are paradises, because of Western Civilization.

And finally, the world today is a much better place because the Western World put a swift check on Islamic military expansionism and the consequential spread of their evil, oppressive religion. Ignorant people condemn the Crusades without understanding how the Crusades saved the world from a cruel fate after Islam nearly conquered Europe and with it the Catholic Church.

It's why I wonder at people who hate their own race (whites) and despise Western Civilization and it's taming influence on the world. They rewrite history to make whites the villains. As a Native American, I shudder to think how (*)(*)(*)(*)ty my life would be if white people never came to this continent. Would I have lived to the ripe age of 39 I'm at now? Doubtful. And I wouldn't have benefitted from plenty of food, hospitals, flush toilets, and art, science, and literature. When I drive my Ford truck and have that AC blasting in my face, I'm glad that Westerners came and changed the course of my people. And now when I think of Western Civilization, I don't think of white people because I too am part of Western Civilization. I take part in it, benefit from it, promote it, strengthen it, and thank heavens for it. Because Western Civilization isn't a race, it's a culture, and a superior one at that.

 

The sad part is that our culture is fading, choosing to follow the wrong examples, and dissentigrating before our eyes.We will continue to throw money into the safety net, and the out of wedlock births will continue to get worse. Those numbers are already astronomical in some communities, society cannot function like this.

 

White culture is becoming victim of puscification, by the liberals, fems, and homosexuals - time to save it now!

 

I love white culture so much I married it. Literally. And having a blended family has opened my eyes to much more than what I grew up with. But my in laws, raging Leftists that they are, are part of what I'm talking about, white people who hate their race. They already know better than to treat me as a "victim" of historical injustice; I put the quash on that but quick. But they continue to cultivate this viewpoint of white people and Western civilization as being the harbingers of evil, killing and destroying wherever they went. It still boggles my mind how people can despise their own race and ignore the accomplishments of the culture that civilized the world. And this isn't a far off discussion I'm having, it's a controversy right here in my family. I just don't get it.

 

So what's a superior culture with superior concepts?

I personally don't believe in such a thing.

 

sorry friend, but there is NO such thing as "white culture".

 

Something that the spiritually stunted and unconscious believe exists because it supports their spiritually stunted and unconscious beliefs.

 

The culture changes, that is the strength of western culture, it changes and adapts.
The culture is stronger now than it's ever been, it may have started in Africa, then moved to Asia minor, and then the Mediterranean and Europe, absorbing and changing with each culture it subsumed.
Until a few hundred years ago it rivaled and surpassed Asian culture, which culture will dominate the future?
A blend in all likelihood...of Western and Asian cultures.
But it will incorporate a great deal more of African culture, than it has now, and become a truly global culture...

 

All cultures die.

 

Yep. What say I drop you in the middle of the Kalahari with the Bushmen without your toilets and literature? You'll soon discover how 'superior' your culture is when all of life's conveniences are removed and all you have is a stick.

 

Oh dont be a duffer and claim culture is molded by environment. Otherwise we would have to admit the Inca's did not invent the wheel because they lived on the sides of mountain, rather than they were stupid and had a bad culture

 

By removing those inconveniences, you've just removed the culture. So that's not a good example at all. Of course people who have never lived with technology can better cope not having it. DUH!!! Thats not to say many couldn't quickly adapt. Here's a BETTER example. Can an outgoing, educated Westerner, when plopped down with the Bushmen, adapt quicker to their lifestyle than a Bushman can adapt to ours? It happens all the time. People go out and live with them for a time and do get by. I'll put my money on the Westerner. You think someone with zero access to technology can learn it all faster than someone can learn to build a fire from sticks, build a hut or wash their clothes on rocks? A more "civilized" person could also learn the Bushman's language and customs faster than they could learn ours.

The difference is, the Bushman if given the choice might not want to go back after he's experienced civilization=)

 

That's pretty much what my fate would have been if a superior culture hadn't intervened on the American continents. That was my whole point is what I was saved from. So I don't know what your point is.

 

Outstanding. For the most part, especially for men, we wander not too far from our wilderness survival roots. Most men have been boy scouts or had some other form of wilderness survival training. As a Blackfoot Indian, I've been through rites of passage that involved being able to take care of myself in the wilderness, a tradition passed down in my family for centuries. It's almost insulting but also vaguely humorous for somebody to suggest I would be done for if deprived of the conveniences of Western living.

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They were a culture of death which is why they died out. That's what happens when life isn't valued and children are sacrificed to various gods and young men are killed in interminable wars. Their culture was inferior which is why we're here today and they aren't.

 

Good. And I'd like to point out that what makes a culture a good one is the quality/accuracy of the belief in God which pervades.

While Europeans and their offspring had a God to model their lives after who is good, unlimited in power, Africans in Africa had and often still have gods who are not like that. Belief in lesser gods make for lesser vision and achievement.

Your view of what God is, is the greatest determiner of your outcome since it is the primary belief of the human being. (by outcome, I'm not talking financial by the way ) If one tries to deny there is a God, he turns out to support things which he feels will supplant the God of others- he turns to big govt, dishonesty, desperation.

No one is who they are because of their skin color. They are who they are because of the God their ancestors believed in, and how much they still abide by the demands placed on them by the decisions their ancestors made.

When some people tell blacks to stop trying to hold onto their culture and 'get with it', it's not because whites have it right. Some whites are pigs. It's not skin color. It's because the white culture began with the right God, and that's the CULTURE that is doing better, and has NOTHING to do with skin color.

You have successful blacks and that is largely because they have decided to go with the successful culture. They haven't given up their heritage, they just recognize that the culture of their heritage contains some very limiting factors which it isn't very joy-producing to take on.

I've often wondered too, how American Indians (said with more respect than 'Native Americans') and black Africans would be now if the culture patterned after the one God who is Love hadn't forced their way into the culture of the lesser and many-god cultures.

 

My point is simply that no culture can claim superiority over any other. It is all relative. You are not superior to Kalahari Bushmen in any way whatsoever. You are simply different and your 'culture' has evolved along a different path.

 

Culture makes a huge difference. Look at the success of Jewish and Asian cultures. Look at the failure of black culture in America. I do not believe it is race that makes a difference but the culture at the time. Races can change culture (anyone can) so it is not race based.

 

What 'black culture'? Are these not Americans living within the American culture? Here are some black failures for you:
http://www.blackentrepreneurprofile.com/fortune-500-ceos/
Are you working on a PC? Does it upset you that the Chairman of the Board of Microsoft, and the former CEO of Symantec, is black and successful?

 

I absolutely agree that the very foundation of Western Civilization and the driving force of it's success is God himself and a people who fear God. I've had more religious debates over the biblical prediction that Christ would reign for 1000 years before Satan was loosed upon the nations. We Catholics believe that era is right now, not some point after Christ returns. We're called amillennial because we don't believe it's a literal 1000 year period, but rather that the number 1000 is used as a metaphor for a great number or the inability to number such as in Psalm 50:10 saying that God owns "the cattle on a thousand hills". We believe Christ reigns and Satan is bound, as described in the opening verses of Revelation 20 and he is inhibited from deceiving the nations, holding the sway he once had. And Christ's reign has been expressed through the advance of Western Civilization, bringing the blessings of modern technology, medicine, literature, education, and the precious gospel of Jesus Christ. I'm personally very grateful that I know Jesus today because of the success of Western expansion.

It's a difficult concept to grasp because not everything Westerners did could be said to have divine origins. The atrocities that are well known ran counter to the plan God had. In fact, many missionaries sent out with no weapons except a Bible were at loggerheads with the brute aggression visited upon the very people they were trying to convert. Certainly these actions recorded in history fueled the antipathy many feel toward Western Civilization today. I've personally heard stories passed down in my family of fierce wars, broken treaties, and forced relocations. It's hard to know how to feel about that because the end result is that we were dragged, kicking and screaming, into modernity and the Pax Americana ended our endless wars with the Cree, Shoshone, and other neighboring tribes. There was no way we wouldn't resist it, but it had to happen and I'm grateful it did.

 

Its sad when one hates self. I find it difficult to believe you are a Native American, sounds like you need to study some history and visit a few reservations around the nation.

 

Wrong. The point you're missing is that some cultures NEVER evolved, as I pointed out in the OP, and weren't even advanced as the ancient Mesopotamians and Egyptians. And they never would evolve if not made to. Their culture was one of death, small tribes having at each other in pointless wars and living brutish lives. Superior cultures evolve, inferior cultures refuse to evolve. That's the whole point.

 

The first problem is that the main people who love to comment on Black Culture don't have no idea what Black Culture is. They watch TV and see young gangbangers and rappers and identify that as Black Culture.

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Where the Romans considered as a white culture or a black culture?

Where Egyptians considered as a white culture or a black culture?

 

Yes, our 'culture' has evolved so wonderfully that the West has been in an endless state of war with itself for centuries. What was that about the "culture of death"? Should I mention the Crusaders-those nice pacifist and cultured gentlemen who raped, plundered and pillaged their way to the Middle East in the name of your 'God'?

 

Guns, Germs, and Steel...among other reads for the presumably literate and race-obsessed stormfronters.

 

I've aslo noticed just how addicted to war the US is and how it targets other tribes in pointless wars while its citizens live brutish lives.

So nothing much changes.