Ukraine’s Prime Minister Yatsenyuk: Now officially Nazi

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  1. Face. Your

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    No they are Ukrainian citizens living under Russian armed paramilitary units who have taken armed control over the city, it is an armed occupation by terrorists.

    They self identify as Russian and are armed and supported by the Russian Federation.

    Abject nonsense, the Russian Federation through the Russian puppet Yanukovych at the direct behest of Putin, as well as, through the FSB and now their military and their armed and directed paramilitary have been murdering civilians in the streets since the Euromaidan protests.

    Your assertion that the representative government of the Ukraine which guarantees universal suffrage is akin to British colonial rule is laughable.

    False analogies do not an argument make. This would be akin to large swaths of heavily Hispanic areas in the southwest United States voting to secede and join Mexico and then pro-Mexican Union paramilitary organizations taking armed control over these areas backed with Mexican supplied arms and then claiming that the U.S. government did not have the legal sovereign authority to enter said territory and retake control. Basically you're spewing utter (*)(*)(*)(*)ing rubbish is what I'm saying.
     
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    These is all boring and nothing is true. Now, you have a puppet Poroshenko. Look at the facts, Russia cuts off gas supply to Ukraine. Ukraine does not pay the debt. They will beg Biden for gas from overseas or steel it from Europe. It is easy to throw eggs at the embassy and damage cars with approval of politicians in Kiev. In reality, their situation is very bad and they do not have a good exit out of the problems. Killing people in the eastern Ukraine is a fascism in action, no brains, no money and no good army to fight. Just naked fascists in the government supported by EU. Well, back to the topic: they are not really fascists, they are fascist bastards without enough support in Ukraine. EU and we cannot keep them afloat for long.
     
  3. Face. Your

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    Astounding rebuttal. :roll:

    And by this you mean the duly elected President of the Ukraine.

    Killing armed terrorists who took over control of the city by force is not fascism.

    Just have to love how you are attempting to portray the country who has had their territory invaded and annexed by military force as the aggressor in this situation. Absolute nonsense, Goebbels would be proud.
     
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    Can you prove that they are Russian citizens?



    Well, most native inhabitants in South-East Ukraine identify themselves as ethnic Russians, some of them identify themselves as Jews who support Separatists, but they are still native people and former Ukrainian citizens.

    Yes, Russian Federation supports their fight against the Junta in Kiev who kills their children, but that is a legitimate humanitarian action.


    To call the president, elected by ALL Ukrainians a "puppet" is just a silly conspiracy theory.


    The Junta did not represent the South-East-Ukrainians, these guys violated the constitution, and that was the end of the old"Soviet-Border-Ukraine"

    The new President does not represent the New Russia, because this region already declared its independence and did not take part in this sham election.


    Well, that is what self -determination is about.
    You cannot have your cake and eat it, too.
    If the separation of Yugoslavia or SU was OK, then this should be OK for any country, including Ukraine and USA.

    BTW, if the majority in Quebec votes for their independence, this must be accepted, too.
     
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    sham election?

    Putin called on everyone to respect its result.
     
  6. Zarathustra

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    I say to you - do not make excuses. We all understand.
     
  8. Zarathustra

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    (laughs) Yeah. That would be interesting. MOD EDIT - Off Topic
     
  9. Art_Allm

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    Well, the Rest-Ukraine shall respect these results, no problems with it.

    Putin needs somebody who will pay the debt for the gas delivery.

    :D
     
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    i dont see whats wrong with what he said. terrorist are subhuman.
     
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    Sure you don't see what's wrong. Look at your profile picture.
     
  12. Casper

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    Who is acting like a Nazi here the President of the Ukraine or the President of Russia which invaded and stole part of the Ukraine and is also destabilizing the rest of the Nation, me thinks Putin, the KGB Agent, has learned his lessons from Hitler very well.
     
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    You might want to back that bus up a little bit. This crap didn't start with Crimea.
     
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    Then why don't you back it up and give us your excuses, opps cause that forced those peaceloving Ruskies to Invade the Ukraine. If I recall Putin said it was about the ports, you saying that he lied? Of-course then he started destabilizing the rest of the country openly, so he must be still on his Peace misson. The "Ukraine/Russians" that want to be part of Russia should simply move there, but then that was never what this was about was it.
     
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    yes, if Russians in Ukraine want to be part of Russia, they are welcome to pack their bags and go.

    I agree.
     
  16. Woogs

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    Can't find reverse, huh?

    I have no interest in giving remedial information to someone that came late to the subject. Here's a hint, though. Go back to September of last year and see what Right Sector was doing in Poland. I'm fairly sure Putin didn't send them there.
     
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    You guys, have a short memory.
    - Russians in Ukraine was ok to be a part of Ukraine for many years.
    - Suddenly nationalists start to show them door because of their ideological and political position.
    - Then Russians of Crimea pack their bags and move to Russia. With their land.
    - Now you say the same thing to the East. It doesn't helps solve a problem. Really
     
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    So that is the excuse you are using for Putin to take the Crimea and then destabilize the rest of the Ukraine? I supposed that will be the same excuse you use when he invades Poland and the rest of Europe, got it.
     
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    Ukrainian fascists vs. Russian fascists.

    They should just split the country already. This is getting ridiculous.
     
  20. KGB agent

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    Where did you find anti-Semitism and what is POS? And do you know the definition of "facist"? It seems to me you do not.

    Jewish butthurt is amazing. Stating historical facts is now considered "anti-Semitism".
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    Oh, I see. You can't back up that bus 'cause you're stuck in a ditch. It's a long walk back to reality.
     
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    Ever occured to you it could be the result of a massive propaganda campaign.

    [video=youtube;jRTgH6WB8ts]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRTgH6WB8ts#t=226[/video]

    English subtitles available

    http://www.kyivpost.com/multimedia/...t-about-ukraines-revolution-video-339078.html

    and see these

    http://www.interpretermag.com/dugin-tells-separatists-in-ukraine-what-to-do-next/

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...razy-ideologue-of-the-new-russian-empire.html
     
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    You know this because of the ditch you are stuck in?
     
  24. Face. Your

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    The entire statement was a classical anti-Semitic canard.

    Yes we understand in the world of the overt anti-Semite labeling the Nazi's as Jewish agents is "historical fact".
     
  25. KGB agent

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    Antisemitic in which place exactly?



    Oh, great, now we are denying the historical fact, that Hitler was partly Jewish as well as a lot of Nazi Germany top branch. It is not my fault that Jews were so good at exterminating themselves.



    But you havn't answered my question. What is POS and where did you find traces of facism in my post?


    Just stop your hilarious historical revisionism.
     

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