Bill Clinton most admired president of the last 25 years, poll finds

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  1. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    If in fact Bill Clinton is the most admired former President, that just goes to show you how our society has deteriorated over the last couple of decades.

    I'm hoping his admiration is simply the result of a rigged poll conducted by some partisan hack.
     
  2. Nat Turner

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    This poll is just another reason why the wild-eyed, mouth-foamers should try to impeach the Great Kenyan Tyrant.
     
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    There is plenty to admire about Clinton. On the contrary, what is to admire about puritans with control issues who care more about the presidents sex life than they do about the country.
     
  4. Nat Turner

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    That, also, is something I have never understood. The American right wing's seemingly endless obsession and fixation on other people's sex lives and women's bodies. Frankly, I find it more than a little creepy and offputting.
     
  5. CJtheModerate

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    I'd imagine that it's pretty easy to beat the current hated President, the former hated President and the President who didn't even get reelected.
     
  6. PatrickT

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    President Clinton was as good at taking credit for things Congress did, such as welfare reform, as President Obama is at denying responsibility for things he has done, such as welfare excess.
     
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    Gringrich divorced his wife, while she was dying of cancer, to marry a younger woman who he had been cheating with for years.

    And yet republicans praise him, while demoning Clinton for getting a BJ.
     
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    Of course I believe it. You're a nation of retarded mud people and lowlifes from around the globe seeking something without having to work for it.
    If you can't elevate to assistant manager trainee at X-mart you join the military and become someone for those footing the bill to look up to, cherish, and wave their flags and salute to. Like Bradl.....I mean Chelsea Man(woman) ing..
    You're fighting socialism with the most socialist-communist-fascist group on the planet. The US military.
     
  9. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The economy was doing great under Clinton before the internet boom.

    Contrary to the predictions of conservatives, who predicted the Clinton tax increase would wreck the economy and destroy jobs.

    Instead we saw the longest sustained period of growth post WWII, 23 million additional jobs created, poverty levels dropping to all time lows, stock markets tripling even with the correction, the unemployment rate dropping to the lowest level in decades, and the best average GDP growth since the 1960s. Oh yeah, and a then record deficit turning into a surplus.

    Could conservatives be more wrong?
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL you've told us all kinds of bull(*)(*)(*)(*) over and over.

    So you admit the conservatives were completely wrong. Contrary to their claims, the Clinton tax increase did not wreck the economy and destroy jobs.

    Instead, it just "slowed down", and we "only " had the longest sustained period of growth post WWII, 23 million additional jobs created, poverty levels dropping to all time lows, stock markets tripling even with the correction, the unemployment rate dropping to the lowest level in decades, and the best average GDP growth since the 1960s. Oh yeah, and a then record deficit turning into a surplus.

    It sure would be great to have another "slow down" period like that one.

    Could conservatives be more wrong?

    You know better than that:


    The economy was doing great under Clinton with his tax increase before the Republicans got him to compromise on their cherished investment tax cut for their wealthy friends.

    What we got was an investment bubble in the stock market. What a coinky dinky.

    You mean the 7.8% unemployment he inherited? And the boom conservatives said his tax increase would wreck?

    Could conservatives have been more wrong?

    Conservatives can't stand Clinton, because he did the one thing that is most hateful to them: raise taxes mostly on the richest.

    Then he made them look like idiots on the economy because they all predicted his tax cuts would wreck the economy and destroy jobs.

    Instead had the longest sustained period of growth post WWII, 23 million additional jobs created, poverty levels dropping to all time lows, stock markets tripling even with the correction, the unemployment rate dropping to the lowest level in decades, and the best average GDP growth since the 1960s. Oh yeah, and a then record deficit turning into a surplus.

    It sure would be great to have another "slow down" period like that one.

    Could conservatives be more wrong?

    You know better than that:


    The economy was doing great under Clinton with his tax increase before the Republicans got him to compromise on their cherished investment tax cut for their wealthy friends.

    What we got was an investment bubble in the stock market. What a coinky dinky.

    You mean the 7.8% unemployment he inherited? And the boom conservatives said his tax increase would wreck?

    Could conservatives have been more wrong?

    Conservatives can't stand Clinton, because he did the one thing that is most hateful to them: raise taxes mostly on the richest.

    Then he made them look like idiots on the economy because they all predicted his tax cuts would wreck the economy and destroy jobs.

    Instead, it just "slowed down" (LOL), and we had the longest sustained period of growth post WWII, 23 million additional jobs created, poverty levels dropping to all time lows, stock markets tripling even with the correction, the unemployment rate dropping to the lowest level in decades, and the best average GDP growth since the 1960s. Oh yeah, and a then record deficit turning into a surplus.

    Proving just who wrong they are on their 1% apologist economic positions.

    But that doesn't stop them from regurgitating the same bull(*)(*)(*)(*) over and over.
     
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    Year - Revenues - % chng
    1991 1,055.0 2.2%
    1992 1,091.2 3.4%
    1993 1,154.3 5.8% <-Clinton tax increase.
    1994 1,258.6 9.0%
    1995 1,351.8 7.4%
    1996 1,453.1 7.5%
    1997 1,579.2 8.7%

    Source data: CBO.gov, BEA.gov

    Yep, look at that revenue growth jumping from 3.4% to 9%. Some kind of successful policy.
     
  12. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean other than presiding over the longest sustained period of growth post WWII, 23 million additional jobs created, poverty levels dropping to all time lows, stock markets tripling even with the correction, the unemployment rate dropping to the lowest level in decades, and the best average GDP growth since the 1960s. Oh yeah, and a then record deficit turning into a surplus.

    And this was after conservatives told us his tax increase would wreck the economy and destroy jobs.

    Could conservatives have been more wrong?
     
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    Morality means too little to most or all of those folks who think that Clinton is most admirable.
     
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    when was he asked about his sex life under oath... don't be stupid...
     
  15. Bluesguy

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    No it says a lot about the MSM of the time.

    What was good about him being President? Being President includes how he runs the Executive Branch and the White House you know, what was good about that. And what was good about him as President?

    - - - Updated - - -

    She was never dying of cancer and the marriage had fallen apart and the divorce in progress before she was diagnosed with cancer and was cured of it.

    Is that your total take on Clinton and his abuse of women?
     
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    It was doing great before Clinton, he inherited a great economy in a strong recovery. Why do you keep ignoring that fact.

    Already addressed why do you ignore it. Yes the recovery proved stronger than expected but doesn't belie the fact he tax increased slowed the rate of growth and the rate of growth of tax revenues.

    In spite of the tax increase which slowed it.

    They could have been as wrong as Clinton about his tax rate increase which instead of increasing tax revenues even more slowed down the strong increases prior to it.
     
  17. Bluesguy

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    Yes and after it went fully into effect on the economy instead of increasing the rate of growth of tax revenues they slowed as did the rate of growth of the economy.

    He even noted as such in 1995

    "Speaking at a campaign fund raiser in Houston, Mr. Clinton said: "Probably there are people in this room still mad at me at that budget because you think I raised your taxes too much. It might surprise you to know that I think I raised them too much, too.""

    Now add into your numbers what happened to that revenue growth after he was forced to sign the Gingrich/Kasich tax rate cuts.
     
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    The economy was growing but it wasn't great. Unemployment was at 7.8% when Clinton took office. The country had a then record high deficit from the Reagan/Bush1 years, proportionately bigger than ours today.

    Conservatives predicted the Clinton tax increase would wreck the economy and destroy jobs. Just like they do now.

    Instead we saw the longest sustained period of growth post WWII, 23 million additional jobs created, poverty levels dropping to all time lows, stock markets tripling even with the correction, the unemployment rate dropping to the lowest level in decades, and the best average GDP growth since the 1960s. Oh yeah, and a then record deficit turning into a surplus.

    Why do you keep ignoring that fact?

    That's not a "fact" at all. That is RW propaganda bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    Which you've utterly failed to prove.

    Utter nonsense.
     
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    Only to the intellectually dishonest could revenue growth of 7-9% per year be compared to 2-3% be "slowed"
    Which he later corrected.

    1998 1,721.7 9.0%
    1999 1,827.5 6.1%
    2000 2,025.2 10.8%
    2001 1,991.1 -1.7%
    2002 1,853.1 -6.9%
    2003 1,782.3 -3.8%
     
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    Hmmm... you get the ad and the mired and you get a bunch of advertising that gets bogged down.

    Just like if you take the n away from nice and you get ice.

    So have an ice day everyone!
     
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    Proof that our best, brightest, most ethical, and capable citizens would never consider running that swamp of leetches in DC.
     

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