Staind vocalist calls out male concert attendees (a tale of personal responsibility)

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  1. SpaceCricket79

    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Or if you're an openly gay individual playing professional football or serving in the Marine Corps for that matter, lol

    So you're suggesting Michael Sam shouldn't play in the NFL since it's "common sense" an openly gay football player's a more likely candidate for homophobia? Interesting double standard.

    Common sense says it's much easier to actually get a date (if you apply yourself a little) than it is to get an orgasm from groping a stranger's hiney, sadly some dudes seem to be unaware of this.

    The personal responsibility's on men to act like men, not virginal adolescents - if you relate to or empathize more with "men" of this mindset than with a victim, then that's not something to be proud of (and is probably a much bigger contributor to whatever "woman troubles" you might have than "feminism", not that I'm a fan of the latter by any means).
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    If a person is afraid of being groped, crowd surfing is probably a bad idea.
     
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    For those who like to be groped, it's probably a great idea.
     
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    Still a double standard, if it was someone hurling gay slurs at Michael Sam you've probably created a thread condeming them.
     
  5. Wolverine

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    Probably because coming out as someone and making a choice to go crowd surfing are different things.

    Not that hard to figure out.
     
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    Who forced him to play NFL? That's the point.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Why is one's sexuality an issue in employment?

    How does this relate to someone being stupid enough to crowd surf?

    Not that hard to figure out.
     
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    What is it about calling people to use common sense that puts shame on anyone?
     
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    Because this isn't simply about telling people to use common sense - it is about claiming someone isn't a victim because they didn't use what you consider common sense. When you tell someone they deserved to be sexually assaulted or that it wasn't sexual assault because you don't think they used common sense, that's a huge problem. It also ignores the responsibility of the perpetrator, and seeks to shame the victim instead of the perpetrator. I don't know how people can't see this.
     
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    Telling someone to not put themselves in a position that would allow others to sexually molest them is just that. Like it or not, the victim in this situation shares a portion of the blame. Nobody made her crowd serf, where her body would be in very close proximity of strangers and their hands. That doesn't excuse the behavior of those coping cheap feels, but then again the female put herself in a situation she didn't need to be in.

    Once again, it's called common sense.
     
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    Why do I get a feeling that the reactions would be different if it were a teen boy who was groped in the crotch by a gay male while crowd surfing? lol
     

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