Obama could have stopped ISIS from the beginning.

We could also have left Saddam in power and then ISIS wouldn't exist.

 

As true patriots one would think that the Nostradamuses here would offer their President the benefit of their expertise. If they could tear themselves away from their fortune making at the track and on Wall Street.

 

Reagan could have stopped Al Queda dead in its tracks if Reagan knew then what we know today.

The point is hindsight is always 20/20. However, no one knew what ISIS could have become then just as Reagan did not know what AQ would become either.

 

It was Al Malaki, the former PM of Iraq, who mucked things up. It was Al Malaki who did not want U.S.troops permenatly stationed in Iraq. And it was Al Maliki who was more concerned in solidifying his power base than doing the right thing. And somehow, Obama should have known.

Funny stuff from concersatives who know nothing, do nothing, but just complain all the time.

 

I suppose in a very simplified and non political world Obama "Could Have" had a premonition of the future and decided to act in opposition to the American people and gone to war without congressional consent and been impeached for abuse of power by pissed of Republicans.

I wonder why he didn't.

 

Marine,
ISIS was located in both Iraq and Syria when the Iraqi government asked for US air power. Second, Al MAliki was PM then and we, the US did not exactly trust him when he made that offer. Third, until 2012, no one has heard of ISIS before, thus the Ameircan people were a little weary of war during 2012. Even Romney had no plan when he was running for President. But Romney is talking now, must like every other armchair general on the conservative side.

 

This looks like a massive pesticide application... Obama said in his recent interview at 60-minutes that he "underestimated" ISIS.

 

How about Obama believing him after the first city fell to ISIS? We still had a chance to take them out. Had another after the second city fell. How long does it take Obama to realize that there is a real problem there? How many cities and towns were taken over before we dropped the first bomb? How many times did they drive down that desert highway where we could have knocked them off and did nothing? How many times is the Left going to make excuses for Obama when you know the truth?

 

What, bomb 'em to oblivion? The "A" plan, in other words? Good, good.

But how to deal with IS's even worse offspring after that?

Funny how the US insists on using WWII rapture methods when fighting guerillas. It's not like IS people are moving in tight formation, with well-indentified colours and uniforms, isn't it?

Supporting IS's local opposition and favoring Arab nationalism would be, IMO, the best course of action.

 

QUOTE:

In September 2014, the Government Accountability Institute updated an analysis of how much time President Barack Obama has spent attending his Presidential Daily Briefs (PDBs), as recorded on the White House official calendar and Politico’s comprehensive calendar. The updated study covered the president’s first 2,079 days in office, running from January 20, 2009 through September 29, 2014. Of those, President Obama attended a total of 875 Presidential Daily Briefs for an overall 42.09% attendance rate.

Additionally, GAI compared the attendance rate during the first term to the attendance rate in the second term, thus far:

• First Term: President Obama was inaugurated on January 20, 2009 and was re-elected in November 2012. Between January 20, 2009 and January 19, 2013, President Obama attended 620 PDBs over a possible 1,461 days for a 42.43% attendance rate.

• Second Term: President Obama was inaugurated for his second term on January 20, 2013. Between January 20, 2013 and September 29, 2014, President Obama attended 255 PDBs over a possible 618 days for a 41.26% attendance rate.1

>> http://www.g-a-i.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/GAI-Report-PDB-Update-9.29.2014.pdf

 

If he did folks would have just complained, I do not think he can do anything that people would not complain about.

 

How do you believe someone who you do not trust politically?

That was the problem. Al Malaki would have taken that opporutunity of us bobming mostly Sunnis in which the Shia led government would have been able to consolidate power even more. Then after we are all done, tell us to leave and next thing you know, you have another Iran in the making.

If that sequence of events happened, how much you want to bet you will be blaming Obama while at the same time takkng no responsibility for your own actions.

 

What do we have now? Because Obama stood back and did nothing while ISIS took over town after town, it will take years to dig them out and if he continues to use fighters to drop bombs and missiles on them instead of planes like the A-10, it will cost us billions.

It seems even his old faithful the NY Times is condemning Obama for not taking action against ISIS when he had the chance. Of course I'm sure the backers here will still make excuses for him.

 

ISIS began over two decades ago as a fantasy in the mind of a Jordanian named Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. A onetime street thug, he arrived in Afghanistan as a mujahideen wannabe in 1989, a year too late to obtain US support in fighting the Soviet Union. He went back home to Jordan, and remained a fringe figure in the international violent “jihad” for much of the following decade. He returned to Afghanistan to set up a training camp for "freedome fighters", and met Osama bin Laden in 1999, but chose not to join al-Qaeda.

The fall of the Taliban in 2001 forced Zarqawi to flee to Iraq. There his presence went largely unnoticed until the Bush administration used it as evidence that al-Qaeda was in cahoots with Saddam Hussein. In reality, though, Zarqawi was a free agent, looking to create his own organization. Shortly after the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, he set up the forerunner to today’s Islamic State: Jama’at al-Tawhid w’al-Jihad (the Party of Monotheism and Jihad), which was made up mostly of non-Iraqis.

In other words, "the beginning" in which ISIS could have been easily stopped predates Obama, as does the deposing of the only middle-eastern leader to ever take a significant stand against radical islam (look up the Iran/Iraq war, and try to ignore that the Iran Contra affair had Reagan aiding the wrong side). Of course, this won't stop you from simply ignoring the past failures and blaming it all on the black guy.

 

When they drove those convoys down from Syria into Iraq, it wasn't before Obama. Even if they didn't believe in Malaki in the beginning, he sure knew the truth when they attacked the first Iraqi city.