Russia Is Doing It – Russia Is Actually Abandoning The Dollar

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  1. freemarket

    freemarket New Member Past Donor

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    Russia isn't using the dollar or the SWIFT system and China is dumping USD at a record amount.
    We cant even keep Qatar our long time puppet from switching over to their currency.
    http://thebricspost.com/china-qatar-ink-currency-investment-deals/#.VFjefDYo7IU

    Claiming that Russia will fail due to something they don't even use is about as logical as saying my household budget is going to be crushed because the price of crack went up. I don't smoke crack and it has no effect on my budget. That is as basic as I can explain it to you.
     
  2. AboveAlpha

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    I don't have to claim Russia will fall.

    Russia has already fallen.

    China is currently deciding to not participate in Siberian Infrastructure and Oil Exploration Development because the United States is able to sell Sale Oil much cheaper er barrel to China as the United States is the #1 Exporter of Shale Oil in the World.

    The U.S. is ramping up Oil Production to such an extent Oil has dropped from $129 a Barrel to $76 a barrel and it is still dropping.

    China understands due to the massive amount of money required to develop the Siberian Infrastructure that Russia will not be able to seel Siberian Oil for anything less than $90 a Barrel just to BREAK EVEN!!!!

    Russia is screwed!!!

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  3. AboveAlpha

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    Yeah...RIGHT! Russia doesn't need help. LOL!!!!

    Tell that to the average Russian Family who are just trying to survive and make ends meet while Putin kees threatening the ONLY NATION willing to help Russia....because besides the United States...no one else is willing to help Russia.

    That happens after Russia BURNS every Foreign Investor who was willing to set up shop in Russia.

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    In case you weren't informed. It's quite interesting read. Of course, the mass media is not going to talk about it because they simply don't want people to know. The biggest strategic mistake the U.S administration has made is to force Russia into the partnership with China. Russia could've been a useful ally and a partner.

    How The Petrodollar Quietly Died, And Nobody Noticed

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-03/how-petrodollar-quietly-died-and-nobody-noticed

     
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    China is dumping the dollar and going with more Eastern partners. The US could never produce and deliver oil by ship at a price that beats a pipeline infrastructure. That is common sense. Those agreements have already been signed so I don't know what rag you read that China is pulling out of the contracts now. You were chumped.
    http://thebricspost.com/china-to-push-for-apec-information-exchange/#.VFowITYo7IU
     
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    Yesterday even Qatar dumped Washington to move into the Yuan for trade. The whole globe is shedding the chains of the hegemons. Its sad when the slaves rebel.:roll:
    http://thebricspost.com/china-qatar-ink-currency-investment-deals/#.VFoxNTYo7IU
     
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    Yes in Russia still there are problems and with poverty but not serious as one and a half decades ago and tips from the USA or from somewhere won't solve this problem. In the 21st century the help was and remains not so much manifestation of true mercy(love to people), how many the instrument of influence. It is policy, but not charity. Therefore redistribution of resources has not enough relation to recipients of this help. This tool could work on the weak, fragile governments of the 1990th years, but now this trick won't take place any more.
     
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    Tell me now what the current price of OIL is per barrel? LOL!!!!

    If the Russian/American Siberian Infrastructure Develoment and Oil and Gas Exloration Program was signed by Putin and started 12 years ago....Russia would have a BOOMING ECONOMY by now with Millions of good jobs.

    The United States based Oil and Natural Gas and Cold Weather Infrastructure Development Companies would have came into Siberia and have finished the job 5 years ago.

    No one...and I mean NO ONE has more experience in such Cold Weather Projects than U.S. and Canadain Corps.

    China has ZERO Cold Weather Experience either in developing Infrastructure or drilling for Oil and Gas in suer cold weather.

    One would think Russia would have such experience but those who once did are now long dead.

    Here is WHY China will drop out of the program.

    #1. China will come to the realization it is not cost effective.

    #2. China will be able to purchase Canadian and American Oil at 1/2 Price the cost of Siberian Oil.

    #3. Costs for Inexperienced Companies attempting to learn as they go along trying to develop Super Cold Weather Infrastructure and Oil and Gas Drilling tend to be anywhere from 5 to 20 times the cosy of experiences Corps.

    #4. It is estimated it will take Russia and China over 18 years before they can even begin pumping out 1/4 of the amount of Oil necessary to begin aying off the debt incurred in such a project.

    #5.....BUT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS.....by the time Siberian Oil is available on the World Market....the United States Military R&D and DOE Energy Generation Development Program will be in it's FINAL ROUNDS OF TESTING...3 successful tests have so far gone well....of LOW TEM. MICRO FUSION REACTOR ENERGY GENERATION...which will make Fossil Fuels a thing of the past.

    SO WATCH THOSE OIL PRICES DROP!!! LOL!!

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    Russia stopped being a Military Threat to the United States and NATO back in 1991.

    And Russia knows Nuclear Weapons are a thing of the past in a Modern World because no one gains from a launch so no one pays attention when Putin talks about war because we ALL KNOW it is B.S.

    Russia NEEDS the help of the United States....BADLY.

    The U.S. is the ONLY NATION willing to help Russia because no European Nation will help Russia and that is for certain!!!

    The Cold War is OVER.....the Soviet lost...and not a shot was fired because in the modern world it is not so much about guns but ECONOMIES!!!

    If the U.S. was allowed to hel Russia and this would mean Putin would have to guarantee that Russia would not seize American Corps. setting up shop in Russia and creating millions of JOBS for the average Russian....we would do it.

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    Again....I only post facts and I do not post out of some Political or National Ideology although I must admit I love my country.

    The United States....and you or anyone else can Google this....because of certain programs such as advancing the original timeline to start producing large amounts of Shale Oil in conjunction with Canada also producing large amounts of Sand Tar Oil....has been able to drop Oil Prices so quickly and so dramatically that not only has this effected Russia more so than any current low level Economic sanctions imposed it has also caused a quantum leap in a resurgent U.S. Economy.

    Right now the U.S. Economy is growing faster than any other Nations economy on Earth and just saying this does not allow others to truly understand the scope and size of the U.S. Economy.

    Depending whether you count in U.S. Territories as the people living on such Territories in the Millions are American Citizens....the U.S. Economy in a recesion existed at $17.7 Trillion.

    Because of extremely cheap U.S. Energy prices both U.S. Corps are rapidly expanding and Foreign Corps. are fighting for place and possition to set up Factories in the United States.

    For any Corporation the combination of cheap energy....the fact that U.S. Workers are rated #1 in the world in Productivity....beyond words complex and massive U.S. Infrastructure....and the fact having a Company making products in the worlds #1 Consumer Nation tends to save on shipping.

    The fact remains that as the U.S. Economy goes so does the entire World Economy and if Russia want's to become art of the World Economy...they better start kissing our A$$E$ because we don't need them....Russia needs us.

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    thanks for submitting such a great post
     
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    If this is directed at me...your welcome.

    The Hindi?

    I worry about the low lying areas in India that the poor have built wooden homes upon the waters as sea waters rise.

    The U.S. Military has contingency plans designed to help stop masss violence in these areas as eventually the migration of coastal living people who have been flooded out will travel to cities where others do not want them to increase competition for jobs and work.

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    Yes good Russia stopped being military threat for the USA and NATO. But here NATO and the USA arrive dishonestly - approaching NATO everything closer and closer to borders of the Russian Federation. You promised not to expand NATO-why to expand and against whom?

    What do you mean when Putin speaks about war? He wants to blow up America?

    No to sure what specifically you mean "to the help" and why no European Country will help Russia? Because are afraid that the USA will inflict sanctions for them? (it now the fact, some European politicians say that sanctions against the Russian Federation under pressure of Washington ...)

    Yes Russia finished cold war. (Russians also didn't notice that, something was lost and don't pay attention now) The USA prevents Russia to build the friendly, economic relations with Europe - in my opinion, It didn't finish cold war against Russia. To events in Ukraine all were happy, Russia delivered to Europe raw materials as Saudi Arabia in the USA. Putin develops and increases gas and oil deliveries. To Ukraine many times very cheap... But the USA and some their European footmen helped to arrange revolution in Ukraine. Why? Because Russia itself without intermediary of the USA wants to sell the resources and to become ''stronger''?
     
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    Let's make one thing clear.....the former Soviet Satellite Nations that were FORCED by Russian's to join the Soviet Union at GUN POINT.....are the one's doing their best to join NATO because they HATE RUSSIA!!!

    This idea you have that the United States has some intention to get even stronger.....well if stronger means to have peaceful and profitable trade relations between the U.S. and other Nations well then YES....that is the kind of STRONGER we want.

    As far as U.S. Military Power....it already exists at such a high level the United States will be decreasing our Military Budget because there really is no Nation or even group of Nations capable of threatening the United States in any manner that would be considered detrimental.

    Russia is NOT a threat anymore even if Putin enjoys making threats.

    China is over 60 years behind the U.S. Militarily.

    Iran is not even worth talking about.

    North Korea has so P!$$ED OFF the Chinese when it made Nuclear War threats against China's most important Trade Partner....that being the United States....even China is willing to give that little NUT in North Korea a SPANKING if he starts talking about launching a Rocket at Washington that will most likely fall into the Pacific.

    At this point it is in Russia's best interests to simply work with the U.S. as PARTNERS.

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    I've already told you AA to get a grip and get out of the bubble you live in. The reality si quite different. The American elites have sold out the ordinary Americans long time ago. And they keep betraying American national interest for their selfish gains. Facts are facts. You cannot hide under the rock forever.

    National Economic Suicide: The U.S. Trade Deficit With China Just Hit A New Record High
    By Michael Snyder, on November 4th, 2014

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/...ade-deficit-with-china-sets-a-new-record-high

    Not Just The Largest Economy – Here Are 26 Other Ways China Has Surpassed America
    By Michael Snyder, on October 8th, 2014
     
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    As Buggs Bunny would say as your ship leaves for the Cold Weather Ports in the Kara Sea....Bonvoyagiee!!!

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    Don't say that I didn't warn you. I care about your well-being.

    “Above all, don't lie to yourself. The man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to a point that he cannot distinguish the truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself and for others. And having no respect he ceases to love.”
     
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    LOL!!!!

    Don't worry about my well being....by biggest concern right now is to chose whether the girls are going to grill be a 2 1/2 lbs Porterhouse Steak or if I want the Rack of Lamb.

    BOTH! I want both.

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    The majority entered voluntary...(NO GUN POINT)
    Only accession of Baltic to the USSR is regarded by different sources as "voluntary accession" or as "annexation"USSR
    Lives they wanted the better - therefore joined and the EU and NATO. Nothing personal to Russia.(for an example about the first countries entering into NATO. The official reason - Poland supports "all-round development of the all-European process of overcoming of division of Europe".Consulate General of Poland in Brest)
    I am glad for you and for strong America which you love. I also agree that it is in Russia's best interests to simply work with the U.S. as PARTNERS...
     
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    Did you know that you in the UK buy five times as much stuff from the Chinese as they buy from you?
     
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    You will find this interesting too.


    http://www.examiner.com/article/chi...l-with-qatar-the-heart-of-petro-dollar-system
    China signs currency swap deal with Qatar in the heart of petro-dollar system

    …. Now would be a good time to begin to discuss ways to back up/ insure the dollar.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...-could-utah-state-dollar-save-usa-dollar.html
    Could a Utah State Dollar save the USA Dollar?
    Have you seen any of the following films:

    1. The Future of Food
    2. Food Inc
    3. The World According to Monsanto.

    If so..... then you know that the USA dollar to some degree is linked to and backed up by a plan to control the world's production of food in such a way that could eventually produce global famine.


    "George Soros says that America must give up the dollar and accept world currency."
    http://www.examiner.com/article/geo...aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582


    Back in 1994 I found out that President Lincoln had saved American taxpayers four billion dollars in interest payments and since that time I have been wondering what alternative was available to improve monetary policy that would not scare the investors on Wall Street.

    A Utah State Dollar could perhaps be the answer!????!!!
     
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    The current world energy reality is changing.

    The United States and Canada are coming close to the end of a long term project to allow both Nations to become completely energy self sufficient and this date was originally slated to be 2025 but now it looks like it will hapen in 2023.

    What does this mean?

    It means that the United States will no longer give a RAT'S A$$ about OPEC or the MIDDLE EAST!!!

    The U.S. and Canada at that time will be as far as the U.S....the #1 Exporter of Shale Oil and Coal in the World and Canada will be the #1 Exporter of Sand Tar Oil in the World.

    U.S. and Canadian self sufficient Energy Costs will be so low that not only will both Economies increase dramatically but as well just as it is already happening now....Large Companies from other Nations around the Planet will be and are FIGHTING to be one of the first to be able to set up shop and build factories in the U.S. as it is much cheaper to operate such industries in the U.S. and add to that massive internal infrastructure, the #1 in the World Procuctive Work Force....and that they can sell their products right here in the U.S.....we are looking at a very productive future indeed.

    U.S. and Canadian Energy and Oil Prices will be HALF the cost of anyone elses and OPEC will most likely fracture and Russia will be too late and far out of the picture.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I do apologise for bursting some people's bubble. Some needs to bring them down to earth. No sane American, as a matter of fact, no sane person will take the U.S establishment seriously.



    The Shale Gas Boom: The Energy Sector’s “Lie” of the Century?


    by Keith Schaefer on October 7, 2013

    http://oilandgas-investments.com/2013/natural-gas/shale-gas-boom-energy-lie/


     
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    Here is a CLUE.

    Bill Powers at one time TOUTED Shale Oil Production and now that Shale Oil Production from the U.S. is driving down priced immensely....Bill Powers is on the other side of the coin PAYED FOR BY BIG OIL sayng....PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT GIANT BARREL OF SHALE OIL BEHIND THE CURTAIN!!!

    Instead pay attention to me...Bill Powers as I was wrong now that I have accepted massive amounts of money from Oil Producing Nations that are loosing money hand over foot because all this U.S. Shale Oil Production is dropping the price of a Barrel of Oil LIKE A ROCK!! LOL!!!

    You are TOO FUNNY!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Bill Powers is also a major contributor to Forbes Magazine....Gee just how many Oil Industry Mogals are a part of Forbes? LOL!!!!

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