we can shut off that border in a MONTH, if we want to.

How about the same offenses committed by citizens??. per capa which commits the most?? or do you really know??

 

In FL, I see illegals every day cutting my lawns, driving on the roads; reducing home prices in certain parts of cities; turning areas into places that could barely be considered the US because no one speaks English; clogging up our school systems, forcing tax payers to pony up to help them learn English because they're parents at home barely speak it...and on and on. Its sheer ignorance or flat out stupidity to think illegal immigrants make this country better.

 

absolutely zero.................wouldn't use 'em at all. Not even when I had my remodeling business

 

They've been doing it for better than 2 hundred years.

 

But you knew they are there and available as do some in business with you, do you call INS every time you suspect one is in the area?

 

Can you show some connection between your post and the one of mine that you quoted?

 

I can't help you if you are that ignorant.

 

Actually, you're the one making excuses for your advocacy of a fascist state where people are required to produce citizenship papers on demand. If you don't see the difference between some private landlords requiring an SSN to rent an apartment and the government mandating all landlords must require proof of citizenship or legal residence, then you are a fool.

 

How does requiring citizenship or at LEAST legality to rent or purchase property fascist? I don't think you know the definition of fascist.

 

Good one. Well, until you can support your claim, good luck.

Usually when you make an accusation, you are expected to support it with factual evidence. Trying to make up a position of someone you are debating with no evidence is, well, kinda like saying 'I know you are but what am I' in a political debate.

Not worth my time.

 

What's the point? INS has more or less been shut down and hamstrung by political agendas, as bad if not worse than our border patrol. Our border patrol are SHARING rifles right now. You think the powers that be will actually allow INS to snatch up a brown family in the middle of the night?

They should. But they won't.

 

Sure, but neither party really want to stop illegal immigration. That is surely clear. And yet the American voter will continue to vote in these treasonous bastards from both parties. If americans were smart, instead of so stupid, they could take their country back from these oligarchs. By refusing to vote for either party, and voting in a 3rd party candidate, who was actually not a traitor to the people. It would take 2 election cycles, to vote the dems and repubs out of office, and this would force the few dems and repubs left to join in with the philosophy of the 3rd party. And that is the only way we will ever fix America's great and grave problems created by these two treasonous political parties.

 

Separate countries. In name and reality. You should try addressing your own ignorance. Your link to a speech from 1963 does nothing to disprove the fact that in 1973, East and West Germany were admitted to the UN as full members and in 1974 the United States recognized East Germany as an independent country. You have no idea what you are talking about.

 

So in other words you complain about them being here but do nothing when you identify them, they call that enabling their behavior. Oh, just so you are fully informed, the local police and INS have not been doing anything for a long time now, long before Obama was even a name in American politics. Have you ever wondered why that is?

 

If you can't read your own posts, you are hopeless.

 

How is requiring people to have proof of citizenship not Fascist? I don't think you have a clue.

 

Again, you're making a strawman that I'm not making.

First of all your definition of fascism is shamefully ignorant. Second of all, I'm not saying you have to be a CITIZEN to rent or purchase property. I'm saying you have to be a citizen OR a legal resident. In other words the only people who CANNOT rent or purchase property are people who are in the country illegally.

Everybody can either prove their citizenship or prove their legality in the USA IF they are legal here.

I'll ask you again... how is it fascist to require someone to prove they're here legally to rent or purchase property but it's not fascist to require someone to prove they're here legally to get a job?

 

You're saying that citizens would have to produce proof of citizenship on demand. Show me your papers. How is that not fascist?

 

No. I just know it needs to end. Right now.

 

If you choose not to rent, you don't have to show proof of citizenship. That's not 'on demand'.

Just like if I choose not to drink I won't ever get carded for alcohol purchase.

Keep picking out one or two sentences and trying to twist them around to keep up your agenda. You sound like youre about 16.

 

Who are you counting on to end it?

 

He said rent or buy. So where are you supposed to live? I haven't been carded in years when buying alcohol. There is no law requiring ID to buy alcohol. So you're another fool who doesn't understand the difference between a private business requiring something and the governmentmandating it.

 

The government manadated my healthcare. Are you opposed to that too?

 

You still have not answered my question, who are you counting on to end it?

 

Anyone. Everyone. I haven't heard one legitimate reason why we should grant amnesty.