Yesterday Congress Declared War On Russia - Ron Paul

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From what I gathered, very few congressmen actually read the bill they were signing, which is kind of a 'what's the use' attitude on their part. I guess they just let the bill ride right through, maybe because our foreign policy is so insane and incomprehensible, and the American people are so brainwashed by the corporate media, that they just gave up. It seems to me that a nuclear war is inevitable...oh but that's right, such things don't happen :roll:

    On his site, Ron Paul makes a list of all the accusations in the bill towards Russia which of course have never been proven...but then again, lies and falsehood to me is a sociopathic thing and isn't that what Washington is known for?



    Reckless Congress 'Declares War' on Russia - Ron Paul Dec 4, 2014

    Today the US House passed what I consider to be one of the worst pieces of legislation ever. H. Res. 758 was billed as a resolution “strongly condemning the actions of the Russian Federation, under President Vladimir Putin, which has carried out a policy of aggression against neighboring countries aimed at political and economic domination.”

    In fact, the bill was 16 pages of war propaganda that should have made even neocons blush, if they were capable of such a thing.

    These are the kinds of resolutions I have always watched closely in Congress, as what are billed as “harmless” statements of opinion often lead to sanctions and war. I remember in 1998 arguing strongly against the Iraq Liberation Act because, as I said at the time, I knew it would lead to war. I did not oppose the Act because I was an admirer of Saddam Hussein – just as now I am not an admirer of Putin or any foreign political leader – but rather because I knew then that another war against Iraq would not solve the problems and would probably make things worse. We all know what happened next. Read on --


    http://russia-insider.com/en/2014/12/05/10-53-11am/ron_paul_congress_has_just_declared_war_russia

    http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/
     
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    I have been very interested in seeing what the Republican Congress does in supporting the out of control war monger Obama who illegally overthrew the elected government of Ukraine early 2014.

    They have a number of proposed bills that Russia will see as an act of war. Namely giving military weapons to Kiev which does not represent all Ukrainians.
     
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    Here's a excerpt from the Washington's Blog on the bill which was passed in Congress yesterday. Ron Paul has a list of what was in the bill, and almost every accusation against Russia was either an out to out falsehood, or was unproven:

    "...In any case, the condition of U.S. ‘democracy’ itself comes into question when 98% of the U.S. House of Representatives vote to donate U.S.-made weapons to the world’s only nazi regime — one right on the border of Russia, moreover — and when 67% of the American public (including the vast majority of the American public who don’t even know that the Ukrainian Government is nazi) oppose not only the donating of these weapons, but even any sort of transmittal or “sending” of them, including selling of them, to that Government.

    So, the U.S. House vote about this on December 4th was a reflection of today’s U.S. ‘democracy,’ whatever that is. It displays a pervasive and profound alienation between the U.S. Government and the U.S. people, and this is something that’s impossible in a democracy. It cannot happen in a democracy; it disproves a ‘democracy’; but it’s the case in the United States.
    ..."

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/
     
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    Ron Pawl would make our best next president. Unfortunately, our electoral system is designed to prevent any honest and knowledgeable candidate to get elected. Media, big corporations and both ("Pepsi or Cola") parties would stifle any independent candidate with a fresh approach to foreign politics. There will no debates on that.
     
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    Great OP!!!

    I love Ron Paul!!! He is, indeed, the Thomas Jefferson of the 21st Century. He would be great as our President. We need more like him in the political arena.

    I have known that war with Russia and China was imminent and inevitable. I actually stated something like that a couple years ago, and I was laughed at and made fun of as a tin foil hat, paranoid, delusional conspiracy theorist.

    Well, NO one's laughing now. The world's eye brows are raised, and NOW, the world seems to be paying attention.

    In my opinion, it's too late. We should NEVER have underestimated our enemies and their capabilities. Now we will suffer the consequences.

    This entire time, while so many have believed and said that Russia and China could and would never be able to do anything, because they are weak economically and militarily, and we have ignored them, they have since amassed a military, weapons, ships, air force, and tactical nuclear missiles, and it's making the world crap down its leg.

    If you underestimate your enemies and their capabilities, you end up dead.

    I tried to tell you people. I pray and hope you listened.

    Only the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF will be able to save U.S.

    The U.S. will be a major theatre in this 3rd world war.

    Before the fighting begins, it would be wise to believe on the LORD and SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST, and repent as an individual, and as a Nation.

    2 Chronicles 7:14 [Full Chapter]
    if my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

    If we do not do this as a Nation, we are finished, and GOD's Wrath and Judgement will continue to fall upon the U.S.
     
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    I agree, Ron Paul would be great, one of the greatest Presidents to set foot inside the White House, and, would indeed lead our Country back to her Constitutional Republic. The way things are going, though, I don't think there is going to be another (s)election. Things are going to happen to either cancel or suspend the 2016 (s)election, indefinitely, or, post pone them indefinitely. Obola and some others have dropped hints that something may, could, or will happen to cancel or post pone the election.

    I say (s)election because that is precisely what the Presidential Elections have become. It hasn't been an actual "election" in decades. It's a SELECTION, and, they make it seem the people vote in who they want, and, that is just NOT the case. The powers that be SELECT who they want to be President, for the agenda of the new world order, total, full, complete, and absolute control, power, and domination. "Full spectrum dominance," if you will.

    If the electoral college voting doesn't prove that our voting system is completely corrupt, and, We, The People, really don't have any say who becomes President, I don't know what does.

    Our votes haven't mattered in decades, perhaps even centuries. They make it seem like our votes matter and count, though. It's all part of the game called globalism, and to establish their pathetic, satanic new world order.
     
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    The only troubling part of the Bill is that it didn't authorize massive shipments of arms to the Ukrainian government to help fight both Russia and the Russian backed mass murdering/ethnic cleansing terrorists.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I'm pretty sure they don't allow US Representatives to run for the Presidency of the Russian Federation.
     
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    I agree that our votes do not matter, because of the system is designed to stop honest sincere people first. Each time we are facing a very narrow choices and decide, which one would be a lesser evil.
     
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    Never trust Mainstream Medias!

    Obama and Merkel will be hiding in bunkers, but how can we survive nuclear WWIII?

    It is clear that we will have soon a war with Russia, according to Illuminati doctrine about annihilation of 95% humans.

    http://propheticalert.wordpress.com/2011/03/08/denver-airport-conspiracy/

    It is a insanity to trust, to read and to watch so-called 'Mainstream Medias' because they are continuously lying and promote devils agenda against us.

    Why no-one Mainstream Media coverages beginning of the WWIII?

    Read more about coming war with Russia here:

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/americ...ion-paves-the-way-for-war-with-russia/5418035
     
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    We 'thank' Obama, Merkel and Mainstream Medias for the beginning of WWIII!

    Hell is waiting for you!


    [video=youtube;i2hFmQCHLk4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2hFmQCHLk4[/video]
     
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    I do not see either a War stance, or falsehoods in this action. It does however make it clear that the United States does not believe Russian Propaganda or innocence. The silly "Nuclear War" BS being thrown around is stupid and dangerous in my opinion, fear mongering is never productive.
     
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    Hussein Obama, McCain, Biden, Soros & Co. aren't 'United States', they are morons who want do destroy our world.
     
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    Did you miss Russia's invasion and annexation of Ukraine and the dirty undeclared war against Ukraine Russia has been waging for more than half a year now?
     
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    So-called 'Ukraine' is a poor failed state without any future, why we must give our tax-money for this garbage and live in fear of nuclear war.
     
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    It's a UN member in good standing, illegally invaded and partially annexed by its bully of a neighbor Russia. Come again, who started the war and put the world on the brink of WWIII?

    Because it's better (and cheaper) to stop Putler in Donetsk than wait until he invades Latvia, Poland or Finland...He is not going to stop, until he is stopped, you know, his predecessor Hitler did not.
    Oh and your [irrational] fear of nuclear war is triggered by Putler's war against Ukraine. Why don't you put the blame where it belongs - Putler and Russia started this war in Ukraine.

     
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    Putin is for Traditional Christian Values, Moral and Christianity, we - western conservatives support him.

    We want a nice and good relationship with Russia, good business and no war.

    Ukrainian nazis have started the war against Russians in Ukraine at first, Putin just saved ukrainian and crimea Russians from genozide.

    Indeed the nuclear war is coming and I am not desire to be burned by a nuke in behalf of f.... Ukraine.
     
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    America started it by backing and controlling the rioters by offering then positions in the new Ukraine government.
     
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    You're talking to Borat my friend. You're talking to Borat. You need to draw a diagram for him. :wink:
     
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    He is a totalitarian ruler of one of the most corrupt countries on the planet, he has completely supressed freedom of speech and press in his country and is actively promoting and enhancing his cult of personality. His aggressive illegal immoral policies are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people in Chechnya, Georgia, Ukraine....Traditional christian value my a$s.



    How well did that work out with Hitler under exactly the same circumstances.

    There are more nazis in Russia than in the rest of the world combined....There were no anti-Russian incidents in Ukraine prior to Putin starting his dirty war against it.

     
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    I think more than 6 billion of human beings missed it. Not even you believe in your own silly words. Lavrov keeps making Kerry look like a fool he is. I don't know is the answer.

    Media: Lavrov asked in a persistent form from Kerry to explain the statement of the Russian troops in Ukraine

     
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    Which laws did America break? Please specific laws and specific violations if you possibly can, not cheap rhetoric and conspiracy websites. TIA

    And how does the internal Ukrainian affair (with or without the US invasion) justifies Russia's unquestionably illegal invasion, war and annexation? You are not denying the illegality of Russia's actions, are you?
     
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    Paul is one of a very few voices of sanity in this insane nation of ours. I said we are waging war on Russia already. When we did the same sort of economic war on japan, what happened?

    If anyone thinks that a nuke war is unthinkable, they IMO, are massive fools. Wars are never rational, and reason goes out the door, as human beings suffer economically. Waging economic war is still war. And we have a habit of doing it often. But sometimes we will eventually wage it against the wrong nation, and the emotional side of consciousness rules over rationality.
     
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    I'm a Christian Right-Wingers, the Christian Values are very important for me.

    ...

    proofs please:

    For your information all Chinese, Japanner, Indians, Muslims are extremely Nazis and Russia has only 130m people.


    And what's about prohibition of Russian Language by ukrainian Nazis?
     
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    Listen to how she is in control. He is asking her what to do and how to do it. He is asking her what should happen to these leaders of the revolt and rioters. Of an elected government I ask what gives America the power to control another government and the power to offer positions in another governments ruling? This overthrow IMO was speared headed by America to attack Russia. Why else would she be so in control there, he is asking her to talk with this guys and explain their future roles.
    If Russia did exactly what America did to Mexico America would be arming for war. I bet would have even sent troops into Mexico too.
    http://youtu.be/jbOwfeoDX2o
     
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    For starters the presense of Russian troop in illegally occupied and annexed Crimea does not need any proof I hope.


    10 Russian troops were captured inside Ukraine, questioned and returned back to Russia. Russia said they got lost, they thought they were still in Siberia when they ended up on the Ukrainian side of the border. Do you believe this nonsense?
     

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