Dick Cheney Was Lying About Torture

Oh, God! You mean that those countries waited patiently until the US "came to be" to assure their survival?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it Lafayette who helped United States become a Country? DUH!

May I remind you that France and the allies had ALREADY been resisting Germans for a few years PRIOR to the US getting involved in the war (and only because the US was attacked by Japan at Pear Harbor?)

Where did you learn history? On Fox News? You're too old for that!

 

....phony scandal.....

 

Does it ever entered your mind that, if REAL terrorists were released. . .that obviously means that the torture and the long jail time was NOT effective to begin with.

And, that, maybe it is their history under the ruthless, cruel handling of the US at Guantanamo that turned innocent people into terrorists?

How would you feel if you had been tortured for years by ONE ENTITY and then released and observed that entity's continued bullying of your country?

 

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roflol: Tell us Mr. History Professor how was that French resisting going?

 

While I agree military force alone will not win this war, it can not be won without defeating jihadis on the battlefield.

They were defeated in Iraq by military force ... why would you think it can't happen again.

They did nothing criminal.

I agree to some extent ... the time to arm Syrian rebels was before they were taken over by jihadis ... like everything else that requires swift and decisive action 0bama waited too long.

No such thing as a neocon ... it's a made up lefty hoax.

 

Well, guess what, it's war, and both the guilty and the innocent suffer in war. If their fellow Muslim extremists didn't fly planes into our buildings, none of this would have happened. If a few innocent people get caught in the mess, it sucks to be them. If they have to suffer because the got caught up in the process of ensuring that America doesn't go through another 9-11, well, too bad. I'm pretty sure the recently beheaded US journalists were innocent. Innocent people always suffer in war. That doesn't mean you tie your hands behind your back when it comes to hunting down and killing the enemy.

 

Maybe they were murdering terrorists who were released by politicians interested in currying favor of the those defining torture as something US Service men go through as part of their jobs to secure the country. You seem to have the same problems as the LTC I had to deal with who couldn't get it through his head that the terrorists don't think like the vast majority of Westerners. Trying to understand them through comments like " how would you feel" is why it took years to pacify Bagdad under Petraeus instead of during Rodriguez's tenure.

 

Yes, it is a coalition, but it is still the United States that has been a leader in that coalition. Why do you have to act like a such an arrogant erudite liberal? France was absolutely the reason we defeated the British, and we have been allies ever since

 

Except that the coalition was in place long before the US deemed it to their interest to finally beat the Germans. . .And without the resistance of the coalition PRIOR to the US intervening, the US intervention would have been too late!

Europe has been grateful for the US intervention since it happened. . . but not IGNORANT of the "late entry" of the US in the war!

 

We were aiding the allies long before officialy entering the war.

 

James Comey: "I believe that Americans should be deeply skeptical of government power. You cannot trust people in power. The founders knew that. That's why they divided power among three branches, to set interest against interest."
It's strange that somebody was surprised with Dick Cheney's lie.

 

Nice derailment attempt.

 

The U.S. is also not "IGNORANT" of the early exit of the French from Viet Nam after the Viet Minh slapped them stupid at Dien Bien Phu in 1954. We looked around, and the French were already back home eating cheese and sobbing. We didn't even ask for the 150 mill back that we gave them in 1951.

Getting back to your flaccid statement, if you want a punching bag for World War II, dig up Neville Chamberlain and slap his dead ass around for laughs.

By the way, you're welcome Europe.

 

P.S. Fox News says blow it out your ass.

 

I think your answer lies right below the post I'm addressing

 

So. . .you are blaming the French for understanding, FASTER THAN THE US, that they couldn't win the Vietnam war. . .and that it was foolish to continue sending their youths to fight a lost war?

Guess what. . .the US had NO REASON to enter into the conflict with Vietnam. . .none, except for ARROGANCE and disregard for the young men they forced to go to war!

 

Aiding. . .because Roosevelt knew eventually the US would have to get involved, but didn't want to go against the many in America who wanted nothing with the war!!!

ONLY Pear Harbor forced the US into actually ENGAGING into the war. . .it wasn't an humanitarian effort though. . .that was clearly demonstrated when the US refused to take in a boat full of Jewish refugees, and turned them back to Europe, where most of them found (temporary) refuge in Belgium and Holland. . .before being sent to death camps.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005267

 

No ... No ... No

Bush made it up all by himself ... don't you watch MSNBC or the Comedy Channel?

 

Yeah, it turns out the U.S. is now crawling with communists. Thanks, liberal Americans, who'd rather do everything in your power to create discord at home. Vietnam vets don't forget how you spit on them when they returned. And it didn't stop at that point.

Every time the Occu-parasites are done with their grabass hippie daisy chains, we taxpayers have to clean up after them. And there's the ACLU to generally impede the process of law enforcement while liberals cheer them on and dance around city bonfires holding non-sequitur signs and burning flags.

But we'll see about this soon enough. The chickens are coming home to roost. You leftists want to take on banks, big business, cops, and conservative Americans who stand by Second Amendment rights?

Good (*)(*)(*)(*)in' luck with that. Here's a hint, Moonbeam. WE are the sleeping giant. Not you.

 

Neither the Taliban, al Qaeda, or their terrorist pals meet any of those criteria ...

They are not armed forces in any sense of the phrase.

They have few commanders who are responsible for their subordinates ... they're a collection of many groups and often fight with each other.

They do not carry identification, they do not carry arms openly, and they sure as hell do not conduct operation in accordance with the laws and customs of war.

Did you even read this before you posted it ... or are you just this ignorant about this subject.

 

Well when 24 is your number 1 drama for years during the iraq war fight on terrorism mess it's not much of a surprise any of this was going on. Everyone loved the Jack Bauer that tortured terrorists.

 

Released? ... they will be sent to their home country for detention ... not released into the general public.

BTW, it's Jon Stewart ... not John Stewart. Update your sig line.

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Nooo ... that opinion of yours is commonly known as lefty BS.

 

The Japanese did it for fun ... entertainment

They also conducted medical experiments on prisoners ... used them for bayonet training ... failed to provide them the protections of the Geneva Convention.

On more than a few occasions they ate them.

Comparing the US to Japan is about the biggest stretch I've seen here so far ... you're just proving you know very little about Japan during WWII or the US today.

 

And the Bataan Death March to boot.

 

Thank you for posting this ...

Read this several times folks ... this is what leftys really believe ... that we were drowning people.

Ya just can't make this stuff up ...