West Virginia Republican says rape can be beautiful if it produces a child

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  1. cpicturetaker

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    A Republican said this. Of course a 'male. Let me assure this delusional AH, that rape is horrible. MOST women don't want the byproduct of a child!

    Moderators, I can't even get 3 lines of narrative from this Republican's 'obscene absurdity'!


    West Virginia Republican says rape can be ‘beautiful’ if it produces a child
    David Ferguson DAVID FERGUSON
    06 FEB 2015 AT 09:25 ET


    A Republican state lawmaker in West Virginia said on Thursday that while rape is horrible, it’s “beautiful” that a child could be produced in the attack.

    According to Huffington Post, Charleston Gazette reporter David Gutman was on the scene when Delegate Brian Kurcaba (R) said, “Obviously rape is awful,” but “What is beautiful is the child that could come from this.”

    Kurcaba made the remarks during a House of Delegates discussion of a law outlawing all abortions in the state after 20 weeks’ gestation. At 20 weeks, anti-choice activists and lawmakers allege, a fetus can feel pain and is therefore too viable to abort.

    The bill was passed by West Virginia Republicans in 2014, but vetoed by Democratic Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin. Now the state GOP has revived the bill and voted to remove an exception for victims of rape and incest.

    Kurcaba’s remarks echo a string of embarrassing statements by Republicans regarding rape and women’s bodies.

    In 2012, Missouri’s Rep. Todd Akin said that pregnancy can’t result from rape because “If it’s legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down.”

    Indiana Senate candidate Richard Mourdock said that while sexual assaults are unfortunate, the resulting pregnancy is a “gift from God.”

    Libertarian favorite Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) made statements of his own implying that women routinely fabricate rape stories in order to get abortions.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/...rape-can-be-beautiful-if-it-produces-a-child/
     
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    Cons say some of the dumbest things at times, but we should encourage them to continue to do so, that way the American Voters know what is really going on in their pea brains.
     
  3. cpicturetaker

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    Perhaps this 'response' from a professional 'feminist writer' sums it up best...

    Republican rape philosphizing

    Apologies to Katie Halper, but apparently there’s even more rape philosophizing to report on this week than the already stunning amount she touched upon. Because Republicans just can’t help themselves when it comes to waxing poetic about how rape is anything but a violent expression of power, rooted in a system of male dominance that allows sexual predators to think it’s an expression of manly power to sexually abuse women, other men, and children. So instead, they get to philosophizing.

    Rape philosophy theory #1: It’s not male dominance that causes sexual violence. In fact, what we need is more control and domination over women’s bodies!

    Republican candidate for governor of Missouri Catherine Hanaway has an elaborate theory about how the “real” war on women is refusing to wage war on them, but instead letting the child-ladies run around and make their own decisions when we all know women are incapable of that:

    it goes a step further, and it’s that step further that I want to talk about today. And this is the hard part. So, if you pursue this course that sexual permissiveness is to be valued, which is the liberal framework and that you should protect sexual permissiveness through abortions and other things, you lead to a conclusion where every sexual preference is acceptable,” she said.

    “What concerns me is the slide in our culture that says, ‘Hey, everything is okay and so why should just having a picture of something be a crime, because to possess child pornography is a crime, why should that be a crime?’ Well, it should be a crime, and this is some of the difficult stuff I have to talk to you about.” Hanaway later added.
    The fact that a woman can consent to sex and a child cannot is lost in this shuffle, possibly because her entire framework starts with the assumption that women are children. But, in reality, the refusal to treat consent as the relevant issue in sexuality and instead rely on a bunch of rules crafted around male dominance is not a good prevention for child abuse. Societies that disregard women’s consent on the grounds that women are basically minors to be kept under male control struggle to come up with reasons why sex with children is bad. After all, it can’t be because they can’t consent—after all, women in patriarchal cultures cannot offer or withdraw meaningful consent, either, but men have sex with them anyway. Which is how you end up with child marriage, because there’s no meaningful distinction between women and children in the kinds of fundamentalist, backwards cultures she’s idealizing here.

    “So, the liberals want to talk about conservatives waging a war on women,” said Hannaway, who is running in next year’s race to succeed term-limited Democratic Gov. Jay Nixon. “But, think about what they’re talking about. When their chief criticism of conservatives, the chief criticism is that we stand up for the sanctity of life. That because we are pro-life we are somehow against women. I am here to say that their culture of permissiveness towards sexual activity is the real war on women. Let’s start with the notion, well it’s not a notion, it’s a fact, that the fact that the culture of sexual permissiveness has led to record levels of out of wedlock births.”

    “And what has that done for women? It has impoverished women,” Hanaway continued. “It has reduced their access to educational opportunities. It has impoverished and endangered their children. It has forced those children to grow up in households where their mothers have to work, to make it economically viable for them to exist and with no fathers. How is that culture good for women and children?”

    But after concern-trolling women and saying we need to lose basic rights such as contraception and choice of sexual partners for our own good, she, in proper Republican style, gets to rape philosophizing on how the contraception and gay rights thing leads to rape of children.
     
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    So let me see if I got the point of this thread. An idiot who represents all of Monangalia County, West Virginia (Have you ever heard of Monangalia County before? Neither have I.) in a non-nation wide office said something incredibly stupid while discussing ways to preserve the most innocent human lives, and therefore all Republicans say stupid things because they are stupid people. Did I pretty much get the basic logic of the OP down? So an elected official in one backwater county, not elected to national office represents the entirety of conservative thought.

    With that in mind, would the election of an idiot to the highest office in the land, say someone remarkably stupid things like visiting all 57 states, or praising out Corpse-men, or who compares ISIS to midevil Crusaders, or who foolishly uttered the 'You didn't build that' nonsense represent the entirety of liberal thought? At least the Republicans didn't elect their idiot to the highest office of the land.
     
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    So its impossible for a women to be raped and still keep the child and love it? What a strange concept. Thanks OP for another spin job article that has no intention of Respectful debate.
     
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    Don't forget ISIS , Taliban, and the rest of the child loving fanatic Muslims in Islams ranks.

    But to this dumb (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) in West Virginia....... >>>MOD EDIT Off Topic Removed<<< . In my opinion that was some stupid (*)(*)(*)(*) to say. Rape and beautiful do not belong in the same sentence.
     
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    Kurcaba and Mourdock are blithering idiots. plain & simple
     
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    This a common republican theme. not to long ago after republican got the majority in congress you'll remember they backtracked on a abortion rape bill in congress. it seems every week there's red state or republicans in congress who are trying to limit abortion on rape or redefine it completely. If not that then you get gems like this where republicans say things like if rapes inevitable enjoy it, the body can shut it down, at least no one dies when a man rapes, etc.

    its not as isolated as you try and make it.
     
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    That is just SOOO impossibly stupid on so many levels. But I'm sure some Repub candidate somewhere will pick up on that bizarro line of thinking and repeat it for all to hear. I hope so, anyway.
     
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    He should be pelted with rotten eggs and tomatoes.
     
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    Nah, think of the poor custodian who's have to clean up the mess. I vote tasers and mace.
     
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    Strange question. Who said it's impossible for a woman to keep and love a child that came from rape?
     
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    If he actually said this and sounds like he did, it just blows me away how incredibly stupid and also, unfeeling, some guys are about this type of thing. As an example, what would be 'beautiful' about a 12 - 14 yr old girl having a rapist's baby? A female at any age, it would not be a 'beautiful' event for her...according to him, does this also include incest victims? This is why I believe abortion can never be a black and white issue.....to many victims out there.

    I wonder if this Kurcaba has a daughter and if she was raped and left pg, would he be singing 'Hallaleujah! I think it's beautiful that you're going to have this rapist's baby!"????
     
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    Then why the outrage from the concept of a beautiful child being the outcome?
     
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    You think people find his comment sickening because they all believe it's impossible for a raped woman to keep and love the child?
     
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    The OP is a blatant lie.

    The man in question clearly states that rape is awful, it is in the quote in the OP.

    Never once does he say rape is beautiful.

    It now appears that the left has to resort to straight out lies to try and attack the republicans.

    Shame on you all.
     
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    I'm sure some women have and it worked for them, but they should ave a choice - abortion, adoption or keep it. These women are victims.

    If it's an incest victim and those victims are usually kids - 10, 12, 14 yrs old and pg w/daddy's baby or brother's or uncle's....... abortion and fast to stop the nightmare she's living in b/c she's going to have to live w/the residue of that nightmare for the rest of her life as it is.........
     
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    I know of this man because I'm from West Virginia, and let me tell you this man's and idiot. Obama would probably be at least 70-80 points higher in IQ. Probably more. I would rather have Obama as dictator who could do anything he wants, than have this guy make one decision on behalf of my country.
     
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    Yes you are all being led again... He said rape is awful... The CHILD is beautiful... Wtf is wrong with that?

    I swear you people hear the word rape and just go off the deep and and dont actually look at the context or what is said at all.
     
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    So children born of a rape are not beautiful children too, we should demean and denigrate them because they were born of rape?

    Geez the left never ceases to amaze me in their war against children and babies.
     
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    They do have a choice. What is your point? Why the outrage?

    Do you know with this outrage you are taking it out on the child?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Seems that way.
     
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    Liberals generalize an incident to fit an entire class of people. It would be as if we generalized Brian Williams' or Hillary's lies to all of the news media or all politicians.
     
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    These clowns, not just along this story line, but about many subjects, make utterances and PRONOUNCEMENTS that blow my mind. For chrissake these IDIOTS publicly say them, expound on them and defend them from PULPITS and LECTERNS and in front of CAMERAS daily, weekly!

    They must actually believe this INSANITY!
     
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    You changed the title of your OP from the actual title of the article.

    You straight up lied about it.

    That is against the rules for a current event thread.

    How you look at yourself in the mirror every day is beyond me.
     
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    Are you not aware that REPUBLICANS and the EVANGELICAL movement's strategy for 3 DECADES was to 'plant' conservatives at lower level
    LOCAL and STATE OFFICES as a 'feeder sytsem' on to the national stage--they have been more than successful. Take a look at November 2014.
    So this backwater WV REP state representative may well be heading to the US congress in a relatively short span of time.

    In the interim, this backwater WV state representative may well be VOTING on medical care, abortion, birth control, sex education in schools and a whole host of other subjects that AFFECT GIRLS/WOMEN in his state. Yes, of course it matters!

    Understand now??
     

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