Hundreds watched 'gang rape' in Panama City Beach , did nothing to stop it

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  1. Coniuratus

    Coniuratus Member

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    Yea cause a rape in Panama City is Obama's fault. This is why people think the right is crazy, cause of ignorant and outlandish claims like this. It's almost like you are trolling people, you might be a master troll.
     
  2. Brewskier

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    It's a figure of speech. What he is saying is that the same ideology that gave birth to an Obama Presidency is the same one that caused this crime in Panama City.
     
  3. JavisBeason

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    because 100s of others just like them already didn't help.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have knife wounds from interference in a rape as well. My argument is that you have a legal obligation not to be part of the voyeuristic mob, and a social and moral obligation to intervene or at least report. I did site TX statute. That was what he was quoting saying it had nothing to do with.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was behind a club. If the 19yr old was served drinks leading to her state then they have a huge problem on their hands.

    Loom at, for instance, the reported crimes at martigras every year. The cops cant be everywhere.
     
  6. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    Why do people want to swerve away from the real issue with this? What is the cause of our societal decline that this kind of conduct by young people can be ignored
     
  7. f_socialism

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    And how do you know they are "just like them"? Do you know all these people personally? Of course you don't.

    There are people on this forum who are now or have been law enforcement officers. And you are trying to tell us they wouldn't step in? There are people on this forum who have seen combat. I have seen combat in two of the worst countries in the world and believe me, not everyone is a coward like you are attempting to portray them to be.
     
  8. JavisBeason

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    what good does a dead you do for your family?


    if I'm killed trying to play hero for some girl who partied too hard, my family loses a lot.
     
  9. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because I am not, and you have done nothing to satisfy your position that I am.

    One question was, if an organized gang... say the crips... were at a place wherein members of that gang gang raped a girl, but most just watched or took video, would you consider them accessories to the crime?
     
  10. Tahuyaman

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    This has nothing to do with race or Obama. This has to do with a decline in standards of conduct. This has to do with people tolerating the intolerable.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By my reasoning if I sit by and do nothing, my children lose more.
     
  12. Coniuratus

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    And what ideology might that be? Rape is ok? Everyone that watched and participated within the rape most have voted for Obama cause that's such an Obama thing?
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again I disagree, this is a well known long standing and well documented social psychological phenomenon known as bystander phenomenon... it has to do with the diffusion of responsibility in leaderless groups which assumes "someone else" will or is doing something.
     
  14. Brewskier

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    Progressivism. The ideology that destroyed the family unit and keeps certain segments of the population feeling "owed" something and angry for political purposes.

    And, believe it or not, there are people in society who are excited by the idea of rape. They are so jaded due to the boundaries of sex being expanded for 50 straight years that nothing else will do it for them.
     
  15. publican

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    Don't tell me what I have anything to do with. Look up what Good Samaritan laws are for before you apply it to this. If I am not raping or encourage them to rape, I am not part of anything. Put the blame where it lies, the two animals that did it.
     
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    Prove what you said about conservatives and lynching.
     
  17. Coniuratus

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    I don't think you understand what progressivism is. Maybe it is the bystander effect, which has been proven within the scientific community. And I am sure that people get excited or seek thriller from watching this event unfold before them, I don't doubt that. But blaming it on progressivism has nothing to do with. What does this idea of being "owed" having anything to do with a bunch of drunk college kids who could care less about politics watching and participating in a rape?
     
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    My assertion was in response to another lefty's assertion. Try to keep up.
    Your link says nothing about conservatives as you claimed.
     
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    I have nothing to prove. This started when another lefty said conservatives lynched. I responded with the opposite that liberals lynch. Obviously you say conservatives lynched also. So 'lay it down' and prove it.
     
  20. JavisBeason

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    see, I don't. If I don't come home, their lives change, their lifestyle quality changes (if I'm not there earning money)


    I have a pretty good life going right now.... it's not worth risk losing


    I would call the cops if they were needed and continue on my day....


    I still think people didn't realize it was a rape. It would not surprise me even a little to think that public sex acts were taking place on that beach and people were probably more "are those guys having sex with her? in a parking lot? That's spring break for you"
     
  21. Daniel Light

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    Even Adam and Eve raised a murderer. Were they "Progressives"?

    The dynamics of the crowd has always had some very negative connotations.

    Wounded Knee.

    The two young black boys lynched in Marion, Indiana while the crowd posed for a photograph.

    Riots after a game.

    It's an unfortunate side of human nature - and hardly some new development.
     
  22. JavisBeason

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    this is also why I don't think anyone here would have done anything different had they been here. They are unaware, or ignoring crowd mentality in situations like this.
     
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    Yea, it's all the Sheriff's fault. The perps were just nice, church going lads who were forced by a racist society to do it completely against their will.
     
  24. Tahuyaman

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    Nope..... It's never been consistently this bad in the past.
     
  25. Durandal

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    It's not a matter of society degrading, I fear, but rather one of simple human nature. It's not at all new for people to stand by while a crime is committed because they're 1) not organised enough to provide the confidence needed to act and 2) too afraid for their own well-being to take the initiative.

    It is a fallacy to assume that people behave differently today "in our society" than they have for thousands of years the world over.
     

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