A brief guide to Clinton scandals from Travelgate to Emailgate

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Fact they fired them in order to put their best buddies in charge, and getting paid, and then trumped up charges against Billy Dale who was competely exonerated. It showed the cronyism they still engage in to this day. AND the MO that has been classic Clinton to this day, if everyone refuses to testify no one goes to jail.


    It came under the sunshine laws and shows the secretiveness under which she operates as is being demonstrated with Benghazigate and Emailgate.


    And using government money to illegal cover your losses became exceptable business as usual when? Ripping off the other investors? Getting people to refuse to testify before federal investigations? so tell me did Hillary or did she not direct the corporation or was she just a passive investor?

    WHAT, where ON EARTH did you ever learn that you can obtain a persons FBI file under a FOIA act? ALL FBI files that were requested by the White House in order to gain clearance for top level officials were to go to the FBI White House agents who went through them and parsed the information. It is HIGHLY PRIVATE information and RAW files are NEVER turned over to White House political operatives and certainly NOT under FOIA request. And including in the files were the files of political opponents who stood NO CHANCE of getting a job in the Clinton White House. And once again, when no one talks no one gets charged.


    Your ignorance of these mattters is just glaring. Vince Foster was the WHITE HOUSE LEGAL COUNSEL. He was NOT the private attorney of the Clinton's and their private matters. His working on Clinton private matters in his OFFICE OF LEGAL COUNSEL TO THE WHITE HOUSE would have been ILLEGAL. That is why Hillary was desperate to get the files out of that office that night along with the fact Foster had the billing records in his possession when in fact they were under a subpoena to be turned over to the OIC. Over a year later they turned up in the most private and protected bedroom in the country with Hillary's writing and fingerprints on them.

    Again the Clinton obstruction of justice and secretiveness and duplicity.

    Stop digging your hole your ignorance here again is just glaring. THAT was not the issue with the billing records. Do you even know what Web Hubbell went to jail for?

    Don't know much about the Clinton's at all do you?

    It showed the lack of respect for the Peoples' house and one of our more noteworthy shrines.

    But it does show how common it was for their close associates to end up in jail over corruption charges.

    Actually they were and yes the pattern with the Clinton's is quite clear. Does the Lerner 5th amendment plea ring a bell?

    Yes like Lerner pleading the 5th and Hillary destroying the emails.

    Her enabling him and helping to intimidate the women he abused was. The "great right-wing conspiracy" was hers as she tried to deflect. The fact she stayed with the sleazebag abuser of women speaks volumes about her. Can you really sit there and watch her claim how she will stand up for women without bursting out laughing?

    That's not the issue is it, it's using the power of the pardon for political purposes.

    And again speaks to her character and truthfulness. Why would you ever again put her in a position of the public trust let alone the HIGHEST position of public trust in the nation?

    If they were on the server she as SecState choose to use as her official server they do and they come under the scrutiny of the Federal Archives until THEY decide what is official and what is not.

    Again why would you put her in the position of the HIGHEST public trust when she works so hard to keep her official business matters a secret?

    Actually we have the records of countries having official business with the State Department and SecState Clinton giving huge amounts of money to their foundation while conducting that business.

    Is that really how you want the White House to be run? Is that the highest ethics we demand of those who serve in the public trust?
     
  2. Mr_Truth

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    compared to Bush scandals these are laughable - btw, as for White Water the Republicans in Congress spent over $100 million of the taxpayers money and found nothing --- therefore, that party should pay back all that money with their fat pension checks
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    No these were quite serious while the so-called Bush scandals were political witch hunts.

    I would suggest you read the report

    http://whatreallyhappened.org/RANCHO/POLITICS/WW/white.html

    And the final report of Robert Ray

    Both of which highlight and give evidence of the obfuscation, delay, refusals to cooperate, selective memories and White House interference in the investigations. The fact is over 20 people went to jail including the sitting Governor of Arkansas and the Deputy White House council. The taxpayers lost $60 million in the bailout of Madison Guaranty alone. That the Clinton's are masters of the coverup, concealments, legal hijinks and getting everyone to just shut-up does not give me much reason to want to once again put them in the position of the HIGHEST public trust.
     
  4. whatukno

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    If this was a criminal prosecution, the holes in your case would be so big air force one could do barrel rolls through them. Conjecture and assumption does not make a criminal case that would hold up in court. You have absolutely no evidence save for the sniper comment that Hillary was involved in any wrongdoings.
     
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    Care to tell us where you practice law? Disprove anything offered.Not 'conjecture'.
     
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    That's the thing though, I don't have to disprove squat, the burden of proof is on the accuser. And y'all's accusations don't measure up to anything but wild accusations.
     
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    These accusations are decades old. They still hold up pretty good to me as exhibited by the anger from the left over them. Obviously if they were bunk, you guys wouldn't be upset. ;)
     
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    Do you see me typing in all caps? No, you don't. I'm not upset, I'm just showing y'all that these so called "scandals" are laughable. The problem is though, that many people on the right have the IQ of squash, and will literally believe anything you tell them as long as it fits their pre-conceived political ideology.

    I mean look at the birthers.

    I know, y'all think that Hillary is a reptilian alien from the planet Subaru (or whatever) Doesn't make it true.
     
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    Relax and get ready for a steady dose of these scandals when the useless POS starts campaigning. It's gonna be beautiful. The lefties will go nuts and Hillary will get shut out.........again.
     
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    And while we are on memory lane, we know that Republican funded or motivated investigations have spent many tens of millions investigating Hillary Clinton, not to mention smearing her.

    Remind us, which of those investigations actually lead to any arrest, conviction, impeachment, penalty, or even being censored?
     
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    Oh I don't doubt you, I am sure that there will be mountains of mud thrown at Hillary.
     
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    All well deserved.
     
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    I mean if y'all run with the sniper thing, well, she stuck her foot in her mouth with that one. AND there's proof that that she did in fact lie about it. But, just flinging poo at her seeing what sticks might not work out as well as y'all hope.
     
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    The pantywaists have desperately attempted to dredge up one pseudo-"scandal" after another, but their highly-promoted attempt to exploit the Benghazi tragedy fizzed with a Republican-run congressional committee "concluded that there was no deliberate wrongdoing by the Obama administration in the 2012 attack," the intelligence community "did not have specific tactical warning of an attack before it happened," and "there was no 'stand-down order' given to American personnel," That effectively shut up the long-running Fox News fantasy.

    Page .......................two!

    Email? They became hysterical over what server was used - and the public yawned.

    So, rather than find and support a viable alternative candidate for the presidency, they are resorting to Operation Duck Dynasty Diva!

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    "By George, I think we've got it!"

    The trope they've now finally settled upon that is now being issued to the rank ranks by their radio entertainers as kvetching orders for the faithful:

    "Let's wage CLASS WARFARE!"
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    Of course, the irony that such an assault on rapacious acquisitiveness is being lavishly bankrolled by the Kochs, Carrot Top Adelson, and their farting-through-silk brethren in the party that nominated Willard "The Common Man" Romney last time is conducive to hearty belly laughs, raucous guffaws, and titters aplenty!

    Hey, this is even funnier than going berserk over nationalized RomneyCare, and then nominating ... Romney!

    So (whilst Bubba stays home and bakes cookies) Mrs C will be wistfully reminiscing about her Arkansas trailer park days, wearing hand-me-down patched pant suits, and guzzling from that signature can of Rolling Rock that's on her podium at every campaign appearance and debate. Could there be a more incisive response to a GOP strident substitution of Roosevelt's "Four Freedoms" with their biggy - "Freedom from Baking Cakes" - than a hearty belch!



    What's your hurry, Bobby? This is fun!
     
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    Hillary has more gates then Windsor Palace
    Corruption and lying comes as natural as not having sexual intercourse with that woman
    If Cross winds had not been so sudden the snipers could have cost SNL ratings
    All I am saying is that her smile is jokeresque
     
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    To Hillary, Windsor Palace is a humble shack!

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    She's so elite, she hired Warren Buffet as her driver, and Martha Stewert just to clean her ash tray!


    (The "scandal" hysteria having fizzled, we're going with the "pampered diva" theme.)



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    Can you please please please promise that all these scandals will be brought to light by Repubs and Fox news in the coming campaign?

    Its gonna be great fun.
     
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    She killed twenty men by the time she was ten.

    She was an unruly kid.
     
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    And the left will dredge up anything they can on the GOP candidate.
     
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    Absolutely we will, the difference is that we will have video, audio, or an actual record of whatever we dig up, instead of just speculation.
     
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    "The Left" will dredge up anything they can on centrist Hillary Clinton, of course, but "The Left" mainly resides in wacko bird noodles and is of little consequence in the real world.

    Now that scandalmania has fizzled for the Hilary haters and their media entertainers are orchestrating class warfare against the "rich" lady, I must say I'm disappointed.

    Given the party that was so wee wee'd up about nationized RomneyCare last time actually nominated Romney, when Turdblossom Rove started pushing the "She's too old!" trope, I was really looking forward to their nominating Bob Dole.

    Of course, anything is still possible with their fixation on Clinton and indifference to an opponent.
     
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    Yes, they will. Its all Bull. But youll go with the bull aimed at Hillary.

    Me personally for example, being intelligent and reasonable far more than you, can recognise that the current stuff about Rand Paul re women in interviews is completely ginned up nonsensical bull and outright lies.
     
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    Since George W Bush remains in a GOP campaign quarantine tent in New Jersey, their Landslide Willard! plays his role.

    Willard is attempting to flog the failed email "scandal" my making up nonsense, but the GOP still does not seem able to evade the onerous task that confronts them: taking a break from sputtering about Hillary (and those ubiquitous "Liberals!" of course) and offering Americans a viable alternative.

     
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    The fun point is that none of these " scandals" have stuck or made any difference in the Clinton's political trajectory.
     
  25. Bluesguy

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    And it would cost a heck of a lot less if the Clinton's weren't masters of obfuscation and obstruction of justice.

    So tell me exactly how she turned that $1,000 into $100,000 in a matter of a few months investing in cattle futures? Why didn't she have to meet margin calls?

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    When you have a sympathetic MSM and a constituency that doesn't care about corruption............look how women and women's groups still adore and worship Bill.
     

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