Woman can decide whatever they want. Im just wondering what rights the unborn has to not be decapitated. According to you none. The mother decides if its a pile of cells or a human.
All the pro-choice crowd are based around the idea that a fetus is parasitic rather than symbiotic, just as the first poster made it so obvious they believe. How does it feel thinking that you were once a parasite to your parents, who just chose to keep you? And at what point did you stop becoming a worthless parasite and suddenly be entitled to human rights/freedom and all the other crap? There is a bitter irony in these people; who all think that human rights mean so much and yet dehumanize the fetus. Perhaps in their case, the parasite never had the fortune of maturing into a human- born as one and remained as one, and viewed others as akin to itself. In a proper functioning society, the resources your children would consume from you, would be paid back once you were elderly- a symbiotic relationship, not a parasitic one. I take great pleasure in knowing that "choicers" are doomed simply because they support the very policy that keeps their numbers down. Just as the women of Rome had so many abortions via imbibing a plant which had the effects of abortion- said plant which went extinct due to overusage- the modern world will go down the same path. Margaret Sanger was so right in a sense. Abortion is just a form of eugenics that weeds out those of us who are least capable of parenting, and they weed themselves out ever so willingly. For that reason and that reason alone, I can empathize with you "choicers".
I didn't post that killing a human being is freedom. See how easily confused you are.....maybe you should rest and come back later??? - - - Updated - - - The unborn has no rights and is not decapitated....see how confused you are.....
The woman decides if she is willing to gestate the cells which will eventually result in a human at birth.
Nothing can be more dehumanizing than to force a woman to gestate and give birth against her will, reducing her to an object, a life support machine.
I agree the laws are contradictory. Murder has always meant the killing of a human being, so if the fetus were actually a human being, we already had laws to address that.
No one can rationally tear apart your arguments. You are 99% sure all pregnancies that occur because proper measures weren't taken. Can't refute that kind of logic. Believing something with absolutely no proof. You can't argue against it.
It's a little more complicated than that, and if you understand the meaning of "in a sense," the statement is scientifically accurate: IAC, consent for sex is not consent for pregnancy.
Correct. Absolutely. But we weren't talking murder by a woman. Nope, it isn't both ways. A pregnant woman chooses to carry it to term or she doesn't. It's not both ways. Each woman makes their own single decision. What is the line drawn in the sand for you? Conception? Brain wave activity? Why not at the pre conception level?
As I told you Im not confused. I can post pictures but then will try to get me banned but you know that already. Please post a video of a real late term abortion.
Ive had sex lots of times. Never once saw a fetus there much less forcing itself onto the mother. Can you cite a single case where this has happened?
if the mother is allowed to kill it because it is not a human being then someone else cant be charged with murder of the same non human being
Why? Do you get off on that stuff? You are very "confused" if you think a fetus has rights (I'm trying to be tactful here).....
What poster? ME? I stated that was my personal opinion in answer to you asking for my personal opinion and OPINIONS do not make law.
Because abortion supporters know on some level that it's a human being—or at least in a "twilight zone" between a human being and an inanimate object. Pro-choicers have no problem with someone else being punished for murder of a fetus, as long as it doesn't interfere with the woman's choice.
Proving my point. Pro-choicers recognize it is murder (though most are unlikely to openly admit it), but believe the woman's right to choose is more important.
I use to think the same way you did. But yes, the woman carrying the potential child, determines if it is going to become a human being. If her choice is yes, she wants the fetus to come to term so it can become a human being, then it gets treated similar to born humans. Since it's not born, it still doesn't carry all the rights of an actual human being. I don't know what the person who kills an unborn wanted fetus is charged with. But I'm fairly certain it isn't murdering a human being. I think the law has qualified what is and isn't a human being. If the woman carrying the child says, NO, I don't want to carry potential child and does the legal method of termination, she can do it. The law isn't that difficult to grasp. - - - Updated - - - On the flip side, many pro-lifers have no problem murdering said fetus if certain circumstances are/were put in place about the pregnancy.
Did you even read both of your statements before you posted? If thats you trying to be tactful....Im not surprised. You stated they arent decapitated so Im sure you can post how abortions are really done without issue. Is there a reason you cant? Too graphic? - - - Updated - - - nope. We are talking about the fetus at the same point in time. Its the same fetus. Killing it one way is murder then by definition it must be a human being. - - - Updated - - - Exactly correct. Im just waiting for one of them to just admit what we already know
Impossible for it to be the same fetus. If the mother has chosen to terminate the pregnancy then it can't be the same fetus as the mother who has chosen to carry the pregnancy to term. I am willing to bet you're for abortion on some level. Rape, incest, life threatening.
Thanks for affirming what I said then making a strawman. I already stated I wanted your opinion. I then reiterated your opinion. You did say it was murder right? And I never said your opinion made law right?
