Moonbeam Makes the Use of the Words Husband and Wife Illegal in California

It's illegal only on the court papers

 

Welcome Steve.......welcome to loony bin island.

 

In my fifteen years as a married man, I cannot recall spending a lot of time in the law library or browsing the internet version of the Oregon Revised Statutes to see what I was called. Now that we have same sex marriages In Oregon and California, it makes sense to update the lingo in there, to reflect the fact that while any legal marriage will have two spouses, neither will necessarily be a husband or a wife. Rest easy, Gov Brown has not illegalized the use of those terms in Hallmark cards, or wedding cakes or anywhere outside the bounds of those statutes and forms it produces for its purposes.

As my son would say, 'Chillax'

 

When I first arrived in NM I stayed in a hotel for 2.5 months until I found a place to live. During that time I got to know the young lady at the front counter quite well and every time we had a casual conversation she would always bring her wife into it. The first time she said it I was caught by surprise but after that the thing I noticed was how often she would use the words "my wife" when referring to her. No big deal, at least not for me. So if this young, progressive lady is fine with defining her female spouse as her wife then that's all the proof I need to know that the female in a legally certified marriage or union is called the wife, just like they have been for hundreds of years. Why does Moonbeam feel the need to redefine our vocabulary?

 

Lol, He wouldn't, except that does not work for two MEN who legally marry! Does one of them have to pretend to be a 'wife' for you ? Spouse will always work in all couples and make it abundantly clear that all laws and regulations in Calfifornia pertain to all couples who are married together regardless of gender. He is not redefining YOUR vocabulary.

 

Two married men would call their spouses husbands, no?

Hey, I'm fine with gays calling their spouses spouses and not husband or wife, but I will continue to introduce my wife as my wife and not my spouse.

 

Few people who are gay, are going to go around, announcing their legal life partner as their 'spouse'. But when two men marry, neither especially wants to be called the 'wife' half of the pair, nor do they want to write about a wife in a legal document they prepare when there isn't one. That is why the legal language was changed to be gender neutral. The men will call each other husband. and the women will call each other wife otherwise and your language, which is their language too, will not change in casual conversation.

 

The End.

 

After being a life- long Democrat, since Carter ,I’ll be voting Republican for several reasons such as the disproportionate proliferation of HOMOSEXUAL TV programs and movies and the GUN GRAB ATTEMPTS by the Democratic Party. But , these next reasons really burns me up ! Recently, an openly HOMOSEXUAL teacher in EFLAND , N.C. a few days ago read the book,” KING AND KING “, TO HIS 3RD GRADE CLASS. It’s the story of TWO HOMOSEXUAL PRINCES getting married and it shows them kissing. Also The Girl Scouts of America has been FORCED, by HOMOSEXUAL Groups, TO ACCEPT BOYS WHO IDENTIFY AS GIRLS and In the state of California, heterosexual married couples can no longer be referred to as Husbands and Wives , Democrat Governor Jerry Brown has signed a bill into law that not only redefines marriage, but eliminates any reference to husband and wife, replacing each with the Generic Term Spouse !
People this is beyond the pale. The rampant proliferation of this kind of behavior is what we can expect if we continue to let the 2% TAIL OF THE HOMOSEXUAL POPULATION continue to WAG THE ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. The REPUBLICAN PARTY is our last hope in maintaining some kind of MORAL COMPASS AND TRADITIONAL FAMILY VALUES that are the foundation of this Country . Voting in a another Democratic president will give them the opportunity to appoint 3-4 new Liberal Supreme Court Justices giving the Court a LIBERAL MAJORITY FOR GENERATIONS. Meaning we can expect more of this. The following is the Genesis of a Lawsuit filed in 2006 against the reading of the HOMOSEXUAL BOOK.”KING AND KING” TO 7 YEAR OLDS IN A CLASSROOM.

Funny how you can’t read a lesson from the bible in a classroom .but you can PROMOTE HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE TO 2ND AND 3RD GRADERS !!!!

In 2006 Robb and Robin Wirthlin and David and Tonia Parker filed a federal lawsuit against the school district of Eastbrook Elementary School, which their second graders attended in Lexington, Massachusetts. The Wirthlins' son's teacher had read King & King aloud to the class as part of an educational unit on weddings. Parents countered that the school's job was to teach about the world and that Massachusetts sanctioned same-sex marriage The plaintiffs claimed that using the book in school constituted sex education without parental notification, which would be a violation of their civil rights and state law. Robin Wirthlin appeared on CNN, saying
“ We felt like seven years old is not appropriate to introduce homosexual themes. My problem is that this issue of romantic attraction between two men is being presented to my seven-year-old as wonderful, and good and the way things should be. Let us know and let us excuse our child from the discussion. ”

HERE’S WHAT THE LIBERAL JUDGES RULED: IF THIS IS THE KIND OF RULINGS YOU WANT , ELECT ANOTHER DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT


The judge dismissed the lawsuit, saying "Diversity is a hallmark of our nation. The Wirthlins and the Parkers appealed the decision; a three-judge panel of the First Circuit Court of Appeals ruled unanimously in favor of the school. Judge Sandra Lynch, writing for the court, rejected the plaintiff's argument that their religious beliefs were being singled out as well as their argument that their First Amendment right to free exercise of religion was violated, writing, "There is no evidence of systemic indoctrination. There is no allegation that [the second-grader] was asked to affirm gay marriage. Requiring a student to read a particular book is generally not coercive of free exercise rights." The court also ruled that the parents' substantive due process rights were not violated, as these rights did not legally give them the degree of control they sought over the curriculum.

TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS !

 

Perhaps a "Civil Union" would be a better choice?

 

fact is not all marriages have a husband and wife, some have two wives or two husbands

so a law that says if the wife keeps the children, the husband pays child support would not apply to a same gender couple, so they need to make the laws apply to all marriages

a legal document should have two line for the spouses to sign, labeling then husband and wife makes no sense in modern times

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Moot point as there can be no biological children between a same sex couple.

 

not all husbands and wives children are biological either

 

Good thing the state aint gonna come and confiscate your marriage license nor arrest you for calling her your wife. Non-issue.

 

That hasn't changed. The law is now using more convenient terminology. Now they don't need three versions of every marriage related law. You're whining over a problem that doesn't exist. Get over yourself.

 

No that is not the case at all. In a real marriage there is a husband and a wife. You folks should have taken the civil unions when they were offered, then you could call yourselves whatever you wanted without bothering anyone. If the USSC kicks this to the states you'll never get that offer again...

 

Not soon enough

 

That ought to be interesting in family law court custody issues reading like this.

since he, the spouse and child's mother is employed, he should have custody of the child, despite the sexual abuse."

Just kidding, but it could end up about there.

 

Good thing I'm on the east side of the San Andreas fault. You guys want to drown me or what?

 

Well, since a number of states passed resolutions against BOTH marriage AND civil unions, I'm going to call BS on that part of your post.

As to Same Sex Marriage in the future? If the USSC kicks it back to the states, I would imagine that it would be brought to the vote again in each state and most would pass new laws allowing it - if the polls and what happened in Ireland is any indication. Might as well get used to it, cause people with your attitude will be treated the same as the dinosaurs who opposed mixed-race marriage in a few years.

 

I think that forcing Christians to bake cakes and take photographs will most certainly limit the number of states stupid enough to support such a measure in the near future...

 

Over 10,000 same sex marriage and what? a couple of lawsuits? There have been far more hetrosexual couples who have filed lawsuits over refusal of service.

As for Christians in this debate? I'm sorry, but for the last 2,000 years, Christians have specifically targeted gay people with imprisonment, stoning, chemical castration, getting them fired from their jobs and disrespecting their military service. For Christians to wail about a gay person demanding a cake is like the little jerk kid on the block who torments the neighbors dog and then goes crying to mommy when the dog nips back ... it's just too pathetic for words.

 

For about 1750 of those years there was no America and no individual rights being violated, which is in fact the matter at hand when forcing people to bake cakes and such. I'm thinking people will choose individual freedoms over special rights for gays...

 

Oh, yeah, thanks for the warning. I wouldn't want to inadvertently use the word "wife" and risk San Q. You've done this country a great service.

 

I've always wondered why this can't be the simple solution to the gay marriage panic.

Just don't call it marriage, call it something else and add that word to all legal definitions where applicable.

What would be the problem?

Oh that's right because in the liberal world a few thousand get to dictate terms to a few hundred million.

They'd never man up and accept a fair compromise because then the fight would be over and the fight is really what they're after.