When Conservatives Fight Against Something, then fight for it

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  1. Divergent

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    Conservatives want less change, but what is with Conservatives wanting less change to the laws they fought against only years ago?

    This idea that change is ONLY bad when it's new is ignorance.

    How sad is it to see Conservatives fight against things for years and then the day after it is in place, they fight for it and fight against anyone who wants to end it. They fight CHANGE, even if it was something bad in their concensus yesterday.
     
  2. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    Have you considered that you don't have any idea what you are talking about? You'd do humanity a great favour if you merely considered it.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Give us an example of the above?

    I like the way you build strawmen. You should be amusing in the future.
     
  4. ArmySoldier

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    That's what a liberal's job is...to do the opposite of a conservative.

    Is this thread for real....or you just messin' with us?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you think conservatives want less change?

    Where are you getting that from?
     
  6. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    I am truly trying to follow the tortured logic of this post but the power bong's air compressor has a torn diaphragm. Perhaps mixing drugs will help.
     
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    Since I don't understand this rambling post, I'll assume the thread is about rambling and do some rambling myself. I think the "change" that bozo thinks the *******s want is a change from capitalism to the spawn of pure bred socialism. He thinks that the 100+ year old Marxism is new. What would be new is if it worked anywhere it has been tried.

    As for change, I am in favor of change, only change will get us out of this debt mess. Even our system of capitalism should change from oligarch capitalism to pure capitalism based on competition. But instituting a pure socialist system will run most businesses from the US. Look what happened to South Africa--went from capitalist to socialist and went belly up because under the 20 year old communist rule, no one wants to do business there. The threat of government confiscation of private property doesn't go over to well with business.
     
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    So, as a conservative, you claim to be against government confiscation of private property yet, as a Republican, it wasn't long ago when all of you were cheering for the government to confiscate private property so a Canadian could build a pipeline. Do you defend private property for all or do you only care about property if an almighty business owns it? Are you for private property now that Keystone has been vetoed? Where was your staunch stand against Marxism when the Republicans were trying to take property away from an American so a Canadian build a pipeline? (Let me guess. It's different when you do it.)

    In other news, now that we have a Republican Congress, please ignore the deficit. Remember, Republicans are opposed to deficit spending. (Unless they have control of Congress. They don't seem to have a problem with deficits as long as we "borrow" the money to give it to Republicans.)

    Oh how the Republicans claim to hate NAFTA. Did one single Republican vote against Paul Ryan's fast track trade bill? Conservatives claim to be against these trade treaties but when the chips are down every single Republican voted for the fast track trade bill.

    Look at the conservatives wrapped in the flag and yelling about freedom. Now look at the conservatives cheer when peaceful protesters are beaten and tear gassed.

    It's funny how all the Red Party conservatives are always yelling about how anyone different from them is a communist but when they see collectivism coupled with a police state in their own country they call it crony capitalism and "law and order." I guess it's different when they do it. Never mind that it is exactly the same. A conservative did it so it's different.

    Conservatives don't really have a platform. They just want to take all the credit for anything good, no matter if they came up with it or not. They also want to pass off the blame for all the bad things they've done to this country. A conservative is whiny baby who has to constantly be the center of attention and always have his tiny, little ego pampered.
     
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    When the conservatives no longer fight or defend what they want to preserve in the way they do now, the chance of keeping what they want to preserve will increase. But when your nation has become a political battlefield, everything is changing continuesly and for a lot of people too fast. What can happen is separation as conservatives (seperatism to preserve), in the end even balkanisation (central Europe two decades ago) And the next process will be the same again, that powers will end the balkanisation (has happened in Europe), until an entire nation or continent is in state of chaos. Even more weakened. And when that point in time has there, you can only try to remain that current state, because you won't start to fall into deeper chaos (but a 1929 crash or terror attack can push a nation deeper into chaos, which a majority cannot withstand if you look at history)
    So you need to have an iron mind and iron emotion in this political/economic system at this moment in time to maintain the current situation.
    History shows a period of increased chaos and that a majority cannot withstand that (few months) period, beause emotion of a society was never 'iron' enough.
     
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    By all mean enlighten us with some examples.
     
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    Actually, doing the opposite of a conservative is a good way of guaranteeing you've made the intelligent choice.
     
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    Maybe so. I would also say the same about a liberal. Both extremes are wrong.
     
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    The great majority of current repubs in politics have taken extremism to new heights of unethical vulgarity.
     
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    Communist here. Liberals aren't us. Liberals are capitalists that favor social programs and more regulation. Communists view them as well-intentioned, but incredibly misinformed.

    These distinctions are important.
     
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    Majority? That's a huge lie. The conservatives are very angry because many Republicans have turned moderate.

    Please use the truth next time.
     

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