Syria crisis: Russian air strikes against Assad enemies

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  1. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    The Palestinians started this whole thing when Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini joined up with Hitler in 1933, and worked hard supporting the Holocaust against the European Zionists.
    Then after 1945, el-Husseini continued his effort until Israel was attacked in 1948.

    Why should any sane person align themselves with Nazi-hanger-on-people who have made this whole Terrorism thing what it has become?
    Do you like terrorism??
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The US never kills civilians because American technology is much more advanced. Our forces only cause collateral damage...never deaths. Now they can even foresee future events. They were reporting the deaths of civilians by the Russians, even before the jets took off. Now that is something!:oldman:
     
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    Assad is being helped by Hezbollah and Iran, so Israel wants them to keep killing one another off...and the heck with the people living there. They are dispensable.
     
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    ...Biden's Plan,...

    A Plan to Hold Iraq Together
    By Joseph R. Biden Jr.
    Thursday, August 24, 2006
    "The only way to hold Iraq together and create the conditions for our armed forces to responsibly withdraw is to give Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds incentives to pursue their interests peacefully and to forge a sustainable political settlement. "


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/23/AR2006082301419.html
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Iran has stated 50 times (according to Bibi at the UN), that they intend to kill all Jews.
    Why should Israel NOT strike back?

    As soon as Hezabellah can, they will aim at Israel.
    Their enemy is Israel's friend.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sarcasm aside...it is true that precision bombing and drone use have significantly lessened civilian deaths during United States military damages to unintended victims, this is not a bad thing. It is unfortunate that my country takes part in various uses of military might, but generally these are at the request of other peoples or as a means of protecting them from aggression (Iraq would be an obvious exception). Russian technology remains far behind the U.S. and is as of late mostly that of the aggressor, rather than the protector.
    The recent choices in Syria are an excellent example of this, and may very well lead to direct conflict between our countries. Should this take place...I would hope even you realize the incredible damage it will lead to for Russia. The U.S. will also suffer in it, but can easily recover as it is a stable nation with good standing in the international community.

    The same cannot be said of Russia.
     
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    The stupid feminized American people have come to believe that WWII would have ended if the USA only killed uniform soldiers and left Nagaski and Hiroshima alone.
    Germany surrendered because the aerial bombing devastated every city.
    That is the way Wars end.

    HAMAS was elected by a 90% vote from the civilians in a ticket designed to attack and kill Jews, every man, woman, and child.
    Why Israel does not smash the cities from which rockets are launched and just waits for the next time, is beyond common sense to me.
     
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    By "heart" I meant their fighters love the idea of joining up.
    They are flooding out of S. Africa now, enough that the government there is worried about the numbers involved.
    These hearty volunteers are coming to fight and die even by suicide.
     
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    Every time Biden went to Iraq he had a new plan, and partitioning was one of them, It's not a bad idea and ultimately is the solution to both Iraq and Syria, just as it was for the Balkans, but that's not what the administration is pursuing. They want a united Syria without Assad; basically they want to replay Iraq. Now they are as single minded about getting rid of Assad as the Bush administration was with Saddam, only with less reason.
     
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    You are being more reasonable here,...
    The Kurds are sitting right where Biden wants them now.
    The Shiites have Iran helping them hold the south of Iraq.

    As soon as ISIS finishes of Syria, America planned to bomb them back into Iraq.
    It looks that simple,... except Russia just butted in...
     
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    Thank you Russia for standing up for Syria. I'd give every Russian soldier a big hug and kiss if I could !
     
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    I'm a Russian soldier.











    *may not be true*
     
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    haha good one =)
     
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    It's also highly 'labour-intensive'. I think I'm right in saying that urban warfare is the hardest form of conflict to counter.

    I don't think so!
     
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    It's seriously weird the way Obama and Cameron, without any proof whatsoever, are pouring out unsubstantiated pronouncements (disinformation?) that the Russians are 'missing' IS targets and 'killing civilians'. This is from our waste-of-space defence secretary yesterday: "He said the "vast majority" of strikes since Russian president Vladimir Putin began the action had not been aimed at IS jihadists but were instead "killing civilians" and the Free Syrian forces rebelling against Assad's regime."

    http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/rus...up-bashar-assad-michael-fallon-11364008701109

    I mean - WTF?? These idiots are dangerous.

    Addendum. This morning's news is that now Cameron wants to get in on the act and bomb IS targets in Syria.
     
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    The propaganda is enough to make you weep. Russia is hitting ISIS and "other" terrorists, which the west regards as "moderates". In other words their ISIS.
     
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    If I recall correctly Hezbollah kicked the Israelis out of Lebanon. The IDF are very wary of Hezbollah as a result.

    http://www.jewishpress.com/news/bre...zbollah-because-it-cant-win-video/2015/01/29/
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/12/16/us-israel-lebanon-idUSTRE6BF20L20101216
     
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    Germany surrendered because their armed forces had tried to fight a war on two fronts against massive force of arms-mainly from Soviet Russia. Post-war analysis found that bombing had little effect on either civilian morale or Germany's arms industry. Toward the end of the war German arms production had actually increased instead of decreasing.
     
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    Don't know about 'weep', it's enough to make me think it's time to start building a nuclear bunker.
     
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    I know what you mean. It depends if the US neocons are beyond crazy? I'm not sure they aren't.


    Source
     
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    It seems that the US and UK simply cannot grasp how breathtakingly inept they are, and how apparently unaware they are of the fact that wherever they go, all they do is to end up making a situation worse than it was.
     
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    I think it is because they're desperate. The world they sat atop and ruled like fat, arrogant pr*cks is now crumbling before their eyes.
     
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    I'm afraid they are prepared to take us all down together with them. They won't let go of their privileges without a fight. People need to realize that only ordinary Americans and Brits can stop them before it's too late.
     
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    Indeed. A case of 'Power corrupts - absolute power corrupts absolutely'?

    Actually, and in context, a more apposite aphorism would be 'Lions led by donkeys'? And it has never been more true.
     
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    Biden probably hasn't thought about the Kurds in months. The administration isn't interested in partitioning the area. They want a united democratic Iraq and a united democratic Syria. Both are more or less impossible dreams. What lessons exactly did the Obama administration think they learned from the Bush administration? Wash, rinse, repeat it seems to me.
     

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