A Conservative is Now a Lock For President

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what plots did Bin Laden mastermind canned up in that house in Pakistan. He virtually in prison. There was a Pakistani military base right there in Abbottabad. No one showed up to the party. How much money did we have to pay Pakistan to let us go get him.
     
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    Well he came up with 911 that happened after Clinton failed to take him out.
     
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    That was the liberal Democrat.

    The same liberal Democrat who Osama bin Laden looked upon as having the talk but not the walk so Bin Laden declared war against America in 1996 and thinking that the next President would also be a pantywaist Bin Laden ordered Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to come up with a plan to attack America on it's own soil and see that those plans are carried out. They were on 9-11-01.

    What Bin Laden didn't know at the time, G.W. Bush just didn't have the talk but he also had the walk.

    Bin Laden's own words to the liberal Democrat in the White House.

    From Bin Laden's Declaration of War against America:

     
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    When Obama took office the economy was tanking at a -9% real rate, losing 700,000+ jobs a month, unemployment was 7.8% skyrocketing upward, and the stock markets and housing markets were crashing in the worst recession in 80 years. The deficit was running at $1.2 trillion, soon projected to hit $1.9 trillion, the housing market was destroyed, and the economy was headed straight for a depression.

    But now the the private sector has added more jobs every month for a record 64 months in a row, stock markets are up about 175% from their recession lows to record highs, corporate profits have hit all time highs, we've gained back all the jobs lost in the recession and millions more, the housing market is recovered, the deficit has been cut by more two thirds, the unemployment rate has fallen from 10% to 5.0%, and over 13 million additional private sector jobs have been added since Jan 2010.

    Only those invested in failure for political purposes could say that Obama failed.
     
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    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    And yet it was Bush who set the deadline. And it was Bush who FOUNDED ISIS on the remains of the former Iraqi army. In fact, he gave ISIS a ready-made army.

    So we all know who created ISIS. As I said, ask Tony Blair. He would know better than you or me.
     
  6. justlikethat

    justlikethat New Member

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    Great talking points!

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    LMAO Terrible talking points!
     
  7. MrNick

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    Whichever is nominated..
     
  8. MrNick

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    How did Bush create a bunch of religious extremists?

    Do you understand what ISIS wants?

    This is nothing more than another crusade... Do you not understand these are religious extremists and NOT a mob of people pissed at Bush?
     
  9. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Oh, the irony!

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    Do you have a credible link to substantiate that allegation?

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    Bin Laden hadn't done anything to warrant killing him prior to 9/11.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wish to point out how effective this kind of blind cockiness was last time...I still remember Rove on Fox election night.
     
  12. Derideo_Te

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    Ironic that your link proves the opposite of what you imagine it does.

    Far from "proving" that Clinton was "ignoring" Osama it actually proves that he knew where he was and was keeping very close tabs on him.

    Why didn't Bush43 continue that surveillance and take out Bin Laden himself when he was given the warning that a strike was imminent? Bush43 had no problem "justifying" preemptive warmongering post 9/11 so why didn't he take action in July and August of 2001 when he was told that there was actual evidence that Al Queda was about to strike in the USA?
     
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    Exactly!

    The math doesn't lie and whomever is the GOP candidate is going to have to deal with the EC "blue wall" and effectively "run the table" with the swing states to make it into the Oval office.

    Which conservative has those qualifications?
     
  14. Daily Bread

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    Do you have a link as proof for those statements(something credible please ) or do you masturbate over the mental images of your erroneous post.
     
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    So you admit the economy is actually in good shape despite your original post.
     
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    He could allow the biggest terrorist attack on American soil in history!
     
  17. justlikethat

    justlikethat New Member

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    If that's what you interpret from my post, no offense but you have no business in the discussion!
    You really should have stayed in school.
     
  18. Derideo_Te

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    Head of the CIA, George Tenant, says that Bush43 ignored the warnings about 9/11.

    http://www.infowars.com/ex-cia-chief-bush-and-cheney-knew-911-was-eminent-concealed-intelligence/

    new report from POLITICO corroborates a suspicion long held by critics of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. It affirms the former president and vice president not only had intelligence warning the terror attacks of 9/11 were eminent, but that they repeatedly ignored the CIA’s warnings. The most shocking assertion is that Bush and Cheney actively attempted to hide the paper trail documenting the fact that the evidence was presented to them.

    The claim comes from none other than ex-CIA Chief George Tenet, who recounted with palpable frustration how Bush, Cheney, and National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice ignored multiple warnings from both him and then-counterterrorism chief, Cofer Black, during the late spring and summer of 2001.
    Previously, the most salient proof the Bush administration had advanced warning of 9/11 was the infamous August 6th edition of the CIA Presidential Daily Brief given to George W. Bush. Titled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.,” the document has often been cited by journalists and whistleblowers making a case of willful negligence against Bush and Cheney. The new information from Tenet and Black presents a considerably deeper timeline, showing there was a consistent stream of intelligence warnings starting at least four months prior to September 11th.

    According to Black, by May of 2001 “it was very evident that we were going to be struck, we were gonna be struck hard and lots of Americans were going to die.”

    Reacting to the threat, Tenet and Black formulated a plan called “the Blue Sky paper,” which called for a comprehensive but covert CIA and military campaign to wipe out Al Qaeda before it could launch attacks. Specifically, Tenet wanted a paramilitary team deployed to the Afghan sanctuary with the goal of “creating a bridge with Uzbekistan.”

    Tenet says the response to the “the Blue Sky paper” was stunning. The administration did not want to address the issue, and notably, “didn’t want the clock to start ticking.” In its report, POLITICO translates this to Tenet claiming Bush and Cheney didn’t want a paper trail of the warnings. It’s unclear whether Tenet directly asserted this sentiment or if reporter Chris Whipple inferred it.
    What is clear is that for the entire summer preceding the 9/11 attacks, the administration ignored warnings about the threat of Al Qaeda and outright rejected a CIA plan to destroy the terrorist group.

    Tenet gets more specific with the nature of the intelligence:
    “The world felt like it was on the edge of eruption. In this time period of June and July, the threat continues to rise. Terrorists were disappearing [as if in hiding, in preparation for an attack]. Camps were closing. Threat reportings on the rise.”

    On July 10th, Tenet met directly with Condoleezza Rice at the White House, where Richard Blee, head of the agency’s Al Qaeda division, told the national security advisor, “There will be significant terrorist attacks against the United States in the coming weeks or months. The attacks will be spectacular. They may be multiple. Al Qaeda’s intention is the destruction of the United States.”
     
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    I find it amazing...and revealing, that Republicans see Paris as a political opportunity
     
  20. Professor Peabody

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    I don't post it if I don't.

    and......

    Then after all that intel in 1998 and 1999, the known terrorist Atta and his pals were still was able to enroll in American flight schools and get trained right under the Clinton Admin's noses in 2000.
     
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    Per your links if the "evidence" wasn't sufficient to convince Bush43 to act upon it prior to 9/11 then why was it so much more convincing that Clinton was supposed to have acted upon it?

    Both of them passed so it is disingenuous to blame Clinton and not Bush43 when both had the same data. Furthermore Bush43 had urgent warnings about the imminent attacks and yet chose to do nothing and instead actively tried to eliminate the "paper trail".

    Clinton has admitted that if he had been able to take down OBL without "collateral damage" he would have done so. Obama succeeded in doing it. But as far as Bush43 goes he wasn't interested in the whereabouts of OBL either before or after 9/11. What does that say about him?
     
  22. Professor Peabody

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    What was he supposed to do in that short time that Clinton couldn't accomplish in 2 YEARS? ? Seems as though you can't answer, so I'll take your posted opinion for what it's worth.......nothing. :roll:
     
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    Yet 7 years later everything is still Bush's fault.
     
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    Your browser does. Just book mark the page then quote the idiocy after the election gets called.
     
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    Repugs just don't have anybody at all...Probably why the GOP is asking Romney (!) to accept being drafted...Romney...Heh heh...
     

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