I'm disgusted

The situation that happened on Dec 2, 2015 in San Bernardino Ca. is repulsive and disgusting. I cannot believe what I heard this morning from House Speak Paul Ryan. How can he go on world TV and tell the public that they (meaning congress) need to devise a plan and obtain information. How ridiculous is this statement. The information needed to work at a solution has been swirling around for decades. It's time to put bi-partisan behavior in the shredder and for our elected officials to leave their party affiliations and lobbyist favorites at the door and work for the people....that's right the actual citizens of the United States of America who they are sworn to protect and serve.....that's right protect and serve. How inhumane, selfish narcissistic, self-absorbed and foolish can Washington be to allow lobbyists, personal political agenda's, party differences and self serving attitudes prevent those in office from doing the jobs that are screaming to be done. Shame on all of you in Washington. The blood on your hands is never going to wash off. Get over it and move on , show up and work it all out TOGETHER LIKE BIG BOYS AND GIRLS. You idiots in Washington are RUINING our country because you simple do now have the skill set and the talent to negotiate on behalf of the American public. Enough of your idiotic behavior. Get to work NOW and serve your public. ENOUGH!!!

 

Congress is not doing its job in relation to the serious gun violence in the United States.

 

Our murder rate is the lowest since we've started recording it in 1960. It's less than half of what it was in most of the 1980s and early 1990s. Congress does not have crime control as part of it's job. Please review the U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 8 for what Congress' job is.

 

You're right. Congress shouldn't develop a plan. They should just immediately launch into a knee-jerk reaction based on emotion.

 

Ayuh,.... Not nearly as ridiculous as this thread,......

 

No offense to you but a common theme in these types of rants is not offering some options to address the perceived problem.

What happened in San Bernardino, and what will continue to happen in the USA with these types of events, has almost nothing to do with Congress or presidents, etc.

You cannot name a single thing that anyone in government or law enforcement or gun sales could have done to prevent the SB event.

There are something like 300+ million 'known' guns in the USA, and no matter if they are legal or not, what do you propose government do about those 300+ million guns? There is no possible way they will remove them from society!

No matter what type of gun laws are created, as long as there remains guns in society, even your best and brightest and perfect people at some point in their lives are capable of using those guns in this type of event. Some of us are known to be mental or dangerous and the rest of us just haven't gotten to that point in life yet but we all have the potential.

Interesting that people are not calling for a ban on selling pipe? No pipe no pipe bombs....right? It's foolish logic and greatly enhanced gun laws or banning of guns, etc. will not end gun violence.

Lastly, and I don't say this void of feelings for those who are involved in these types of incidents, but when we have 320 million Americans, with all the attitudes people have today, their righteousness, their entitlement, their hostility, their ignorance, their drugs and alcohol, their religious and political and organizational associations, etc. is it truly a surprise to anyone that these types of events are going to happen? After all, 32 people in this event are only 1/10,000th of 1% of the US population! We should be surprised it doesn't happen more often.

And...since WWII, as Americans have accumulated wealth, and power, and entitlement, and righteousness, been educated by TV programs and sports icons and thugs, etc. aren't WE to blame for the monster we have created? Some wonder what is so different about the US and other countries but the answer is obvious! Look at how WE behave compared to others around the world...

 

Congress and the president has the power to close our borders and deport undesirable aliens. Until the Jihad is defeated that is the action that is called for. Congress won't do that and that is why Trump is so high in the polls. The people are fed up with the president and congress.

 

They have the *authority* to do those things. They do not have the practical power to do so.

 

How do you propose to see that done?

Would enforcement of the constitution work for you?

If that is the case, our lawful and peaceful revolution has the most functional strategy that is in the peoples control.

 

That is a good argument for the maintaining of the status quo. Personally I think we can do better.

 

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Important people are seldom murdered. Such deaths are for the insignificant among our population. If they want to kill each other off, so much the better.

On average 30,000 people are shot or killed each year, and 2015 is looking good to have guns kill more people than automobiles. Roughly 33,000 deaths by guns, and 32,000 killed in auto accidents. "Bloomberg three years ago found shooting deaths in 2015 "will probably rise to almost 33,000, and those related to autos will decline to about 32,000, based on the 10-year average trend."

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/01/americas-top-killing-machine/384440/

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Most anyone can agree on this.

What happened in San Bernardino was terrorist violence. The knee jerk reaction on the left to make this a 'gun violence' issue is just a smoke screen to avoid facing the real terrorist threats that exist. No gun law was going to stop Syed Farook from acquiring guns, legally or illegally.

There are about 270 million firearms in America. That genie is out of the bottle. Bad people will always find a way to get their hands on them. Pretending otherwise is a perverse form of hallucination.

 

I don't understand your statement.

 

The government does not have the practical capability to either close the border or deport all illegals.

 

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To some people, this may be a singular issue of terrorism. To others, both terrorism AND guns.

 

This government could close the border almost overnight and deport all illegals in 90 days. This country defeated Germany-Italy-Japan in WW2, put a man on the moon and returned him to earth, completed the Panama Canal after the French couldn't, cruised a submarine underwater around the world, ran Iraq out of Kuwait, and fed Europe after WW2. With the right leader we could do it.

 

One of the shooters, Syed Farook, was an American citizen who had a good job with the county government and by all accounts was a ordinary guy. What existing or proposed gun law was going to prevent him from legally owning firearms?

 

You gonna vote for Hillary? If so, then you support the status-quo, and this rant is meaningless. You want things to change in Washington? Then you must vote against every bought-and-paid-for incumbent, and do so every election until they get the message.

 

Politicians are not sworn to protect and serve except for the Constitution either federally or state.

lol

 

^^^ This is key.

The ONLY way to have prevented this would be to have somehow identified these shooters and stripped them of their liberty and locked them away BEFORE this incident occurred. So the pertinent question becomes: do we want to allow our government the power to strip American Citizens of their liberty based on a presumption that they may pose some future threat, in the hope that some shootings may be prevented?

 

No, they couldn't. The current entire Army and Marines could not even close the Mexican border, let alone the coasts and Canadian border too. The practical capability is not there. We don't have the manpower or the funding.

And the idea that we could deport all illegals in 90 days is fantastic bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Why would you blame it on congress when Obama can just do an executive order.

 

Obama can't touch the second amendment. The Supreme Court has issued enough decisions on it that it prevents him from acting without Congress. Basically there is no grey area for him to work with.

 

Excellent thought. I don't understand how people don't see what your saying here. Maybe they got their eyes and ears solely on their devices, and believe everything they hear. You summed everything up in a short couple of sentences.

I guess they are hoping for Hollywood's "Minority Report". Being able to throw us in jail before actually committing the crime. "I pitty the foo"

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And with more population.

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And with more population.