Health care reform. Republicans or Republicants

The ACA has proven to be an unmitigated disaster with cuts to medicaid, high premium spikes, huge 100% deductibles and the loss of doctors or coverage. But does the Republican party have what it takes to chance the law of Obamaland. So far the party has attempted to repeal the law 12 times. Now a for sure veto sits on O's desk. The real question is will the Republicans do something when it counts. They still haven't released a full bill of their own. Please show us something before 1/20/17.

 

What sort of bill of their own should they have?

Get rid of obamacare, and their work is done.

 

That's stupid. (A nation can/should do better than what you suggest.)

 

It's either get rid of obamacare or keep obamacare.

keep or throw out. There is no third option.

 

You can try to explain reality to right-wingers, but you will be wasting your time. According to them, the millions of people that now have medical insurance due to the ACA were better off before. You remember, when the only option those uninsured folks had was an expensive visit to the Emergency Room. Those visits were paid for by taxpayers and other sources, with Hospitals charging higher rates to those who could pay.

The conservatives and neoconservatives are always looking back to "the good old days" that only existed in their alternate reality. They forget the ACA also provides protection for patients with pre-existing conditions. It is certain that when the GOP finally robs many average Americans of their health insurance, those able to purchase new policies will find their pre-existing conditions are not covered. This situation will be faced by many right-wingers who will be sorry they got their wish for the repeal of Obamacare.

As usual, the conservatives and neoconservatives haven't thought that far ahead, so when they are left out in the cold with no coverage, will they blame the Republicans for repealing the ACA? Of course not, they will blame their plight on Obama.

It's going to be a pleasure to laugh at them for their idiocy.

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So that's one vote to keep obamacare as it is.

Sure, there are people who benefit from obamacare. They like having their health insurance costs subsidized by the majority of Americans. The only problem is that you have a few too many people riding on the obamacart, and not enough people pulling the obamacart.

I guess it'll just implode on its own, then.

 

Take it or leave it. The Right needs to PUT UP or just shut up... at this point.

 

Amen!! Too many on the Right are stuck in or express false hope in the 'past'. They aren't realistic nor pragmatic in their approach to government.

 

What was the democrats alternative plan to the gulf war?

lol

 

George Bush should have listened to the Democrats a LOT more, I think.

Even so, it will be AMAZING to see the GOP do something to actually HELP the American (working) people to make it... and not just the few who happen to be wealthy and influential.

 

Why is that?

 

They have helped me more than any democrat has done. The only thing democrats have done for me is to make me pay more.

 

If a Republican President is elected in 2016 and he does away with ObamaCare, he better have a good alternative that will kick in right away for the millions who will immediately lose their health insurance.

 

Or he could return the lazy shmucks who could never get it back to normal and return the rest of us to normal payment levels.

 

I believe the number was 35 million uninsured before obamacare.

How many are actually insured and paying for those deadbeats?

Quite a few more, last I checked the population number.

So no, there is no alternative necessary.

 

My deductible went from 500 to 2500 overnight. Now Obama and the liberals may think I can afford to pay that but they would be wrong.

 

Enough 'talk' and politics from the criticizers already. Time for them to DO something.

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I'm not buying that.

Sorry.

 

The democrats had their chance. They held the house, the senate, and the executive. Despite not a single republican vote, they managed to pass the ACA.

That was the only time you had a chance to do something, and what you got is the ACA.

And now you want the republicans to do something? lol!!!!!

Sorry, but you got what you got.

 

You have to ask yourself what did the ACA replace? We had hands down the absolute best healthcare on the planet, best in terms of quality and in retrospect affordability. The Republicans don't need to author a replacement for the ACA they only need to inform the insurance industry to return to their former system.

 

If that's the most important metric, than of course it's working.

The patient safety initiatives in the ACA have made our hospitals safer and saved nearly 100,000 lives so far.

We know from data in Massachusetts (which had about a seven year head start on the rest of the country) that the kinds of coverage gains being seen under the ACA improve mortality.

The ACA's unprecedented effort to shift the health system toward paying doctors and hospitals based on value is starting to show results as new payment models reward higher quality care delivery in ACOs, physician groups, and others.

If quality and mortality are what matter to you, going backwards would be a disaster.

Quality in the American health system has been getting better, not worse, over the past five years.

Patient Safety Improvements Save 87,000 Lives and $20 Billion

More than 1,200 hospitals named Joint Commission 'Top Performers'

Medicare ACO quality, savings improve in second year

More hospitals will get value-based purchasing bonuses than penalties in 2015

Readmission rate continues to drop for Medicare beneficiaries

Practices Increasing PCMH Capacities for Chronic Patients

Trends in Hospital-based Population Health Infrastructure

 

That's a silly exaggeration.

By most any measurement, the ACA has been successful; not to mention the important protections it provides millions of Americans.

 

I was a 'boy' (in the 70's)... when I first heard the issue of healthcare introduced. Republicans and others on the "Right"... didn't move toward real solutions then. In fact, I remember them smashing down Hillary Clinton's healthcare proposals, when she was First Lady; they've hardly changed (actually gotten worse, in my view).