It's an el-cheapo nylon IWB holster that was suggested by Amazon along with the laser. I bought it, primarily, to keep my pistol in while in my vehicle, which it works fine for. It was less than $20, and is currently the only holster I have that fits it with it's new laser. I'd be open to any suggestions about holsters that will accommodate the Shield and its laser. This is the one I have: I also have a SA XDm .40 that I was looking at lasers for. I particularly like the guide rod lasers because I can keep my holsters. I'd appreciate any feedback there as well.
Facts say otherwise when it comes to CCW creating a tax burden. http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article40840149.html
What a load. CCW holders aren't causing the costs of gun violence. Democrats and their acolytes are. Chicago, Camden, Philly, East St.Louis, Birmingham, Baltimore etc are where the real costs are accrued. Till the bangers get insurance, no one else will either. That's your fantasy.
If folks intend to turn this thread into something other than what was intended by the original spirit of this thread: I encourage folks to create an entirety different thread.
I don't think you read your own article. This says that 5 colleges beefed up security because if it's irrational fear regarding a new law that allows campus carry. This expense is their choice. Other colleges have had campus carry for years with no issues. I repeat, there is no tax burden by having CCWs. However the benefit saves lives. Here are 656 pages of successful defensive gun uses. Each can be verified by going to the local news story provided. https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/?pa...Date=&search=&contentBuckets=8176#latest-news
First your argument was CCWs should be required to carry insurance. I pointed out that there are no problems associated with CCW that warrant mandatory insurance. SO You changed your argument to the 229 million dollars that CCW costs Americans. I pointed to FBI stats that prove that CCWs are not responsible for that number. In fact they are statistically more law abiding than average Americans. SO You changed your argument once again to the dollars that a few universities in Idaho spent because of a new law that passed allowing campus carry. I am pointing out that other colleges have had no problems since they started campus carry. SO (This is where you change the argument again)
I don't have a "safety" on my duty Glock and I prefer it that way. One less thing to worry about in a potential situation that may already have hundreds of variables to take into account in a manner of seconds or less.
A friend and I were out last week, killing off some plastic beer bottles. I had brought my P-95 along, just to see if he could use the magazines in his P-85. Both of those have hammers, and decockers. I like the idea, because you can carry one in the chamber with the decocker "down", and just flip it up when you want to fire. In that little review, I realized that it makes little difference if you have to switch the decocker on the Ruger, or rack the slide on a Glock. I carry my Glocks "Israeli style", with a full magazine and an empty chamber. My friend had also brought his S&W M&P (THE Glock clone), which he also prefers over his P-85. I think it's all a matter of preference, but I say that once you decide on one or the other, you are better off to keep all of your guns the same. Another friend is a 1911 guy. All of his guns are the same design, since Colt makes a 9mm and a .380 in the same operating system. All of my "serious" handguns are Glocks. That way, when you train with one, you're training with them all, and no matter which one you're using at the time, there's nothing to adjust to. PS- Another thing that little outing demonstrated is that ANY pistol is terribly under powered. Hitting those water filled plastic bottles wasn't at all dramatic, even with hollow points traveling at around 1,200 fps. We got them under control well enough to give me time to break out an AR-15. And that's what pistols of any kind are for.
Not sure how CCW doesn't fall under the heading of "ask anything" but if you would prefer I am more than willing to take this discussion elsewhere. I wasn't really expecting anyone to agree about the reality of the costs (human and dollars) associated with the gun culture in this society because no one ever does on message boards, they only do so in real life when actually faced with the tragedies happening in their own communities. Before I do go I want to thank you for your civilized tone and say that it has been a pleasure reading your posts. DT
Sorry if you felt we hijacked your thread. I also am a firearms instructor and have been sharing my experience and wisdom on this forum for quite a while. Under this thread title I didn't think I was derailing.
And good advice was given. Then it turned into a multistage debate about ccw insurance. Have any long rifle ranges in central FL?
Hammer. I personally prefer a traditional double action (DA/SA). Carried in DA mode, that way there is a heavy trigger for the 1st shot. In my mind it's a built in safety measure, making it harder for me to "jump the gun" so to speak. I spend equal time working on DA and SA.
What is great about Central Florida is the multitude of ranges to choose from. We have several long rifle ranges if you consider 300 yds a long range. Any given weekend you can shoot any competition you like weather it is 3gun, steel, Idpa, Uspsa, precision rifle, cowboy action, trap and skeet, etc. etc There are several indoor ranges also, but I use 3 different outdoor ranges where I teach firearm safety, CCW, and force on force.
When my students bring up the .45 vs 9mm in regards to stopping power, I tell them the same thing. It's more about a well placed shot. I also tell them that I would rather have the mag capacity of a 9mm vs the mag capacity of the .45 The consequences could be devastating if in a gun fight you need just one more round.
I agree. And comparing the bulk of defensive ammo terminal ballistics from from 25 years ago to today, 9mm looks hard to beat. Though it is fun to sit back and watch others debate about it. A few buddies and I were messing around in the back yard. Did some drills, then started plinking around and BSing. Got on the, inevitable, displacement debate, and different bullets. Biggest gun on the table was a 44 mag. The garden done good that year, so we were exploding cantaloupe and water melons. My 8" bbl 45LC created as big a mess as the 2" bbl 44. Another guy got annoyed that his 40 wasn't up to snuff, so as he walked back to his truck he said something like " I'll show you f***ers." I kinda laughed because I knew what he had, others didn't. Comes back with a Serbu super shorty.
Thats funny. Pistol grip shotguns are just not my cup of tea. They are not real enjoyable to shoot in my opinion.
Even kill shots don't alwyas stop someone because the system can still run for about 15 seconds before a perp stops. 15 seconds is a long time in a situation. - - - Updated - - - How about the guy that shot part of his hand off. http://thegunwriter.blogs.heraldtribune.com/17484/a-devastating-accident-with-the-kel-tec-ksg/
Several debates are addressed in this little story: https://www.policeone.com/police-heroes/articles/6199620-Why-one-cop-carries-145-rounds-of-ammo-on-the-job/ The cop had hit the bad guy something like 14 times with a .45 ACP, including hits to the liver, heart, a lung, and one through the top of his head, and the baddie was still breathing. That cop traded in his .45 for a Glock 17, and carries 145 rounds of ammo, ALL THE TIME.
I did some training in south Florida. During a break I got to talking to one of the other students about rifle shooting. Said he went to a rifle range somewhere north of where we were and got to shoot his "50 bmg at 900 feet." My reaction: wtf? At only 300 yards, for a 50, seems like a waste of ammo to me. I mean LONG range, like warm up at 1k and go out from there. Anyone have private land where they (and the law) allow ELR shooting that you know of?
I've read that in the 86 FBI shootout in Miami one of the bad guys took a 556 fmj through the heart, changed mags, and didn't quit until after the mag was empty. If the brain box or spinal cord isn't destroyed, then there is no guarantee the bad guy will start behaving himself.
It's like deer hunting. Most go for the heart shot, less adrenaline will be released contaminating the meat giving it that gamey taste. If it's a lung shot, the deer isn't going down right away and you can be sure that the meat will have a gamey taste. The ideal shot is severing the spinal cord just below the neck. One problem, damage to the back strap, the best cut of of meat of a deer. Also you have to be a pretty good shot to hit the spinal cord.
That didn't happen. The FBI weren't armed with 5.56 weapons. It was an FBI FUBAR of epic proportions. Platt was hit in the right chest with a 9mm that initially penetrated his right arm and stopped an inch from the heart. It likely perforated the pulmonary artery or vein or a major collateral. It did collapse the right lung and over a liter of blood ( a lot was in the chest cavity ) and a fatal wound unless there is immediate medical attention.
