How Serious is Australia on Domestic Violence?

In the time it has taken to create this post and for you to read this.
1 man have been murdered
1 woman have been murdered
4 men have been assaulted
10 women have been assaulted
1 man has been sexually assaulted
2 Women has been sexually assaulted
1 man and 1 woman has been kidnapped.
60 Families have been destroyed in one way or another by domestic violence.
Figures are based upon the Australian Bureau of Statistics
Considering that less than a third of domestic violence events are reported you can easily triple these figures and you might be just beginning to see the picture and if you wish to add the child abuse statistics you could go well above. The bureau does not hold complete statics due to the issues of gathering them and the issue of unreported and unrelated crime.

So as many can see, Australia has decided that domestic violence is a major issue that need immediate address. I do concur with this sentiment and strongly support addressing the issues related, However, one has to ask, “How serious is Australia???”

Rose Batty, Australian of the year, politicised her position with comments of “Now we have a government working on domestic violence” And we here all the rhetoric of the world supposedly standing to oppose domestic violence. What is the promise??? Not to commit, NOT to ignore, not to accept domestic violence… I cannot recall the entire thing but apparently those adds cost millions.

SO REALLY, how serious is Australians about domestic violence??? Shorten and the ALP/Greens alliance have been found lacking. Shorten ask no less than 9 times if he condemns the Union officials (not accused, not allegedly and no rumoured) found guilty of domestic violence and intimidation and threatening behaviour of women by a court of law. Three times asked on three different occasions by the media and at the last all his response is “the ALP opposes any domestic violence…” So when

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...k=401bd339a6b6fe89f6d059857e136e87-1450249241

Apparently, good men only stand to oppose domestic violence when it is politically expedient. In need of those very Union VOTES to maintain his position subterfuge and try avoid. Now while we look to one man who insists on hiding the truth of domestic violence because of the political advantage received, the party who supports this one man is just as culpable due to the fact they also refuse to condemn those found guilt. In election year HOW SERIOUS IS THIS ALTERNATIVE GOVERNMENT??? Obviously Not enough to actually oppose it.

BUT looking at the problem, one issue is marginalising and trivialising the problem is a major problem… Being a multicultural nation Australia has to stand up even MORE against domestic violence due to many cultures who have preached the worthlessness of women and children. On this forum we see many who would excuse religions that preach violence against women and children while trying to demonstrate their own supposed racial acceptance of culture and belief but ignoring the reality of difference.

Tolerance is not acquiescence and in this area people would rather appear to be submissive than address the problem just to pretend they care. Such empty headed people who clearly do not comprehend outcomes of actions while pretending to be smart…

SO HOW SERIOUS IS AUSTRALIA ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE???

 

If they decriminalize or perhaps even regulate legal use of marijuana you'd probably find all the bogans and westies would stop using ice and settle for being doped up all the time. Currently if they have to 'use' something illegal they'll go with the ice over the weed, but if the weed is legal they'll just grow their own weed. You'd see an immediate massive reduction in domestic violence, because its exactly those populations and their habits (used to be alcohol) which is the main body of the problem in Australia. Being stoned versus being high on meth are completely different experiences, and the later increases domestic violence and the former would reduce it.

Not an ideal solution in real terms, but a realistic solution to the particular problem.

 

Oh really...https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.bocsar.nsw.gov.au/Documents/r25.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwi7l9b6zODJAhWj36YKHRDjCvcQFggkMAI&usg=AFQjCNGbVQf4Mb4dmMo046mkrBqz2T8-cw

 

You didn't read that link yourself did you? It does not look at the relationship between domestic violence and drugs. It merely confirms what everybody already knows and that is domestic violence is concentrated in the lower socioeconomic ranks.

 

I really have to question the seriousness of people who link articles from 1992 who want to refute claims when the problem is far more complicated... But hey, if that is the extent of their ability, so be it. However, this article confirms the ignorance of the NSW state government of 1992 to actually begin to understand the problem.

While drug use and alcoholism is predominant in the lower socio-economic issue contributing to the problem they are not the ONLY issue. While the Australian government wants to contrive that domestic violence is simply a control issue, that is to say those who commit the crime are really just trying to control others, this is simply not the case. When drugs are in play, people will generally allow that inhibition removed during drug use of greed. That Is they want without inhibition and strive to gain regardless of obstacle. Not the only, but one way.

When in lower socio-economic situation people are more likely to use such methods of control to manipulate their situation into something different than they have. This is why predominately complaints are made and not all of them are true. BUT with the middle and upper class the victims have far more to loose, so when the time comes to report such, they weigh up the value of making such report to what will be lost. This is one reason that people will not report but again not the only.

In other words, the poor can gain of report, rich can loose. Domestic Violence is not a wealth issue OR simply an issue of drugs, but a far more complicated issue than many can comprehend. Which is why it is important to stand and oppose ALL domestic violence and not allow others to use it to support their own agendas, as the ALP/Greens seem to be doing.

 

Domestic violence has now came down to a male bashing issue, and that is unacceptable. Apparently only males are capable of domestic violence, and that is where the focus currently is, but the facts don't indicate that.

I hope the following links might educate some people that male violence against women is not the only major issues that should be addressed, but women don't like admitting same sex violence is happening for some reason.

Maybe the penis envy men haters need to take a step back and stop trying to blame men for all their problems, and start looking at their own gender for a change in regards to domestic violence.

http://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/09/04/2-studies-prove-domestic-violence-lgbt-issue

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence_in_lesbian_relationships

http://www.dvrcv.org.au/help-advice/abuse-in-lesbian-relationships

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...-domestic-violence-epidemic-is-silent/281131/


Domestic violence is NOT gender specific, but feminists and some eunuchs are trying to make it a male only issue, and that is not correct information.

This is a complicated issue that involves every aspect of Social Construction, and to point the finger at one group or in one direction to solve the problem is intellectually stupid.

 

Your the first to bring it up culldav. It happens to both sex's yea, but from what I've seen in the burb's, and in the stat's it is women who are the largest group of victim's (by far) and often the most vulnerable. Penis envy is a myth btw, most often held my men rather then women IMO.

 

Domestic violence is an issue that the lesbian feminazis are trying to hijack. They have succeded to a large extent, if you read the link provided by LRL they discuss the disinformation pouring out of this whacko camp.

 

Rosie Batty is suppose to be the Australian of the year ambassador fighting against domestic violence, but not once has she raised her voice or any objections to include same sex relationships in her crusade against domestic violence. Its all been targeted hate speeches against men violating women, but nothing representing equality of gender.

In Rosie's opinion, it would seem domestic violence only occurs within heterosexual relationships, where men are always portrayed as the aggressors and women as the victims.

Doesn't she make a fantastic intellectual ambassador, excluding the rights for everyone's to be protected against domestic violence regardless of gender?

Its a sad day for the intelligence of Australia, and the real victims of domestic violence, when an idiot like this allowed to represent them, and become their voice.

Puking up hatred towards men and demonising all men, because of her own personal situation. This woman should not be given a second of credibility.

 

Blah, observations from the homefront and statistics... there is no agenda beyond trying to deal with the problem at the centre of the problem. How its this becoming a mens rights issue... lol. Drama queens. Didn't get enough hugs from the working mum so now cannot get along with women and decide its everyone else problem

 

Some salient points to demonstrate the sex differences in domestic violence is that in 2005 "just under half a million Australian women reported that they had experienced physical or sexual violence or sexual assault in the past 12 months" and that "the majority of violence against men is committed by other men. Of men who reported that they had experienced physical violence in the 12 months before the survey, 73.7% said that the perpetrator was a male.". And "37.8% of women who experienced physical assault in the 12 months before the survey said the perpetrator was a current or previous male partner and 34.4% said the perpetrator was a male family member or friend. Most incidences of physical assault against women in the 12 months prior to 2005 were committed in a home (64.1%).".

That means men committed the violence against men in nearly 74% of cases and men committed the violence against females in nearly 73% of the cases. So the main problem is men being violent, but the other story is that the much larger victim base is the females. This is why the focus is, and has to be, on the male offender female victim dynamic. Nowhere is anyone arguing the solution to domestic violence is anti-male. It is anti-violence. If you don't like being associated to it because your male, its the fault of the men who commit domestic violence, not the people who are being realistic about the nature of the problem.

 

Most males (89 per cent) and females (67 per cent) who were victims of physical assault reported that the offender was male.

One in five females (20 per cent) reported that the offender was a current or previous partner, compared with two per cent of males.[18]


Australian Parliament:
http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliam...mentary_Library/pubs/BN/2011-2012/DVAustralia

 

Lesbians get into the DV.

 

This was an interesting topic, but its already degraded into members attacking members with childish insults, instead of attacking the problem.

End of participation.

 

Commonly this is the biggest problem...

What is the issue??? Does pointing out the reasoning behind certain aspects of domestic violence mean any proper clarity or credibility of the problem? Apparently it does, for many decide to attack the poster NOT issue.

I will say this to your comments; I do allude to the asexual nature of the premise of the thread by pointing out the statistical position of both male and female in each category. While it is statistically predominate that women are the larger victims of domestic violence, everybody has to remember that less than a third ( or for the less able LESS THAN 33%) report domestic violence, also a point made in the thread.

SO for people to be determining that there is a sexual preference for domestic violence by statistical anomaly (so to speak) clearly showing more to their incomprehension of the problem than anything else.

Sure, the government wish to make some point over the sexual nature of domestic violence. But that also goes to the point of how serious Australia is about the issue. When people would rather drag the debate to something they comprehend when the truth is they have no real understanding of such.

 

Ironic on a thread about domestic violence, there'd be this kind of derision (misogyny!) aimed at women.

Culdav:

Adultmate:

 

So do you think that making any point you have so far is actually constructing to addressing Domestic Violence??? Do you think by making this point gives you any credibility in the area of domestic violence???

You may not like the contribution of others because of your lack of ability to comprehend the issue, but at least they are attempting to contribute, were all you are doing is tossing insult. BUT the facts are not up to YOUR interpretation alone BUT to all. Sure if you do not agree you have all rights to refute them, however, saying they are wrong because you say so is not going to cut it.

A little along the lines of Gillard’s misogyny speech in defence of ignoring misogyny from the speaker of the house... AND YOU LOVED IT.

No, as pointed out, NOTHING to add so all you wish to do is throw disparagement about to pretend you have some credence to the issue. We have seen YOUR credentials with these types of issues and so far you have provided nothing but your own form of degradation to the thread…

So if you’re finished trying to insult all about perhaps you should keep your comment to yourself, as it clearly demonstrates the premise of the thread that Australians do not really care about domestic violence issues, they are only acting out the script pretending to be something they are not...

 

Give it a rest, Garry. It's really tedious the way you go on.

I kept a thread going for a couple of years here about domestic violence so bugger off with your nonsense about my 'credentials' and all the other crap you go on about.

http://www.politicalforum.com/women...ite-stand-against-violence-towards-women.html

 

As stated, all you have is insult and we have already seen your credibility so simply saying you have, just does not cut it.

IF we do look to your thread on domestic violence what is it we see???

Again nothing to your credibility, all you did was parrot others and insulted more who did not agree with YOU…

SO nothing different, all you have is insult and your justification for such is MORE insult.

 

Put your hammer down, Garry. It's Christmas.

Seriously, though, I'm done with you. Your arrogance is quite revolting.

 

Remember those cartoons you used to see with a caveman with a club dragging a cavewoman along by the hair? The unspoken message was the caveman got the woman by bashing her over the head with the club and this was the way of things. pretty sick really but how did these cartoons affect the attitude of young boys toward girls?

 

You make some good points Gwendoline in your posts in this thread. I have read this thread yet can find no criticisms of any issues you have raised in this thread. It looks like other members are commenting about themselves, and not your issues, when they quote your posts.

 

Yes, the problem is generational as you clearly point out. However, while people remain in this obliging manner of excusing themselves for their own issue of marginalising due to gender or relationship NOTHING will change.

V8 supercars advertised heavily a team of women to compete at Bathurst. However, during the course of the event one driver referred to them as driving the “(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) Wagon” and something about PMS (I believe), all as a big joke. He was fined by the event organisers $25,000 and fans erupted complaining that he did not mean disparagement. From what I saw, appropriate action was taken due to the fact people both young and old look up to these people in their particular sport a message has to be sent of what is appropriate and what is not.

WITH THAT SAID, look at the sport, Women objectified to bring in the yobs to the events and to sell their product because let us not delude ourselves “sex does sell.”

Again you have to ask how serious is Australia about this issue???

 

Good, now perhaps people can have some real conversation rather than the tit for tat insult and pretence you provide. Maybe people can get serious about not just trying to point out others are wrong because you say so...

Perhaps you should understand that Christmas is one time where Domestic Violence gets worse and does not take a holiday because you have time off…

 

You're the only one here that is insulting people and from the comments it appears you have some issue with Gwen. You have been bashing her since she started posting again and accusing her of doing it.

I really think you need to start taking some medication and have a good lie down.