2015 Lie of the Year: the campaign misstatements of Donald Trump

So what your saying is your willing to ignore the lies on your side and attack the lies of the other. You can tell yourself it's not a double standard but then you're only lying to yourself. You can see why it makes me laugh.

But what's worse lying about the number of Muslims one see's on tv protesting or lying to the American people about the motivations for four Americans deaths? Every time Clinton tells a story about some voter in some town, like she did multiple times during the last debate, she's probably lying. Typical politician trick and most of the time they are lying

 

Yes, I want Trump.

No, I dont believe PolitiFarce.

Leftys dont have moral high ground to criticize trump, after electing Obama.
[video=youtube;9AtoHdiPfnY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AtoHdiPfnY[/video]

 

Huh-uh! Politifact says otherwise, so there.

 

PolitiFact is incredible.

 

If anything he is over exaggerating, misleading, and overgeneralizing.

Example; There were Muslims celebrating the fall of the towers, it is the numbers that are disputed. To date, neither side has determined an exact number only that he was truthful in his observation that Muslims were indeed celebrating.

On the other hand, Hillary is a habitual liar, yet politifacts will not admit or confirm that even with the mountain of evidence against her.

I don't even like Trump, but this is just getting ridiculous.

 

I do not consider most of my news sources to be biased, but they do, on occasion, make mistakes. It happens. Now, go back and read the Politifact article about Trump in the OP. It's almost as if the man cannot open his mouth without another massive live tumbling out. Maybe he's just doing this for fun, and if he were, then I think it's time to let everyone in on the joke. Unfortunately, I doubt he's just pulling our collective chain. And has he or his campaign ever responded to inquires by Politifact? I kind of doubt it, but not sure. As for "others lie" so it's no big deal, there's no doubt they do, but none of the others are as outrageous as Trump and certainly not leading the Republican nomination for president. Point is, the 77 that have been checked, 76 of them were lies, with just some worse than others.

If you have found any of Politifact's facts to be incorrect, you should state them so we'll all know, but if the best you can do is holler, "liberal", you really haven't made any case at all.

PS - this is also for BestViewedWithCable. Will be happy to discuss any facts you find which proves them wrong.

 

And, as long as we're on the subject, let's just throw one more log on the fire:

"We're practically not allowed to use coal any more. What do we do with our coal? We ship it to China and they spew it in the air." — Donald Trump on Monday, November 30th, 2015 in an interview on MSNBC's "Morning Joe"

OK, that was the first big lie. Now then, here's the second one:

Well, that makes Mr. Trump 77 for 78. All things considered, it looks like a fair and balanced article.

 

Like I said, "If anything he is over exaggerating, misleading, and overgeneralizing."

He is doing what all politicians do, and what most businesses do with their products/services, he is marketing, and targeting a particular audience emphasizing what most of them already believe to be true. And it is working better for him in this case, because the same target audience already is fully aware the professional politicians are and have been lying to them stone face for decades now.

I also provided an example; There were Muslims celebrating the fall of the towers, it is the numbers that are disputed. To date, neither side has determined an exact number only that he was truthful in his observation that Muslims were indeed celebrating. IOW politifact has determined him a liar since he cannot prove sufficiently to their liking that he is telling the truth about what is most likely an exaggerated number to begin with, yet under that same set of standards politifact is lying too since they cannot prove without any doubt that there wasn't thousands of people celebrating over the fall of the towers.

I'm not defending 'the Donald', I don't even like the guy, but to pretend he is the only liar in the field of presidential candidates, is such an obvious lie it defies all logic and common sense.

 

It's clear that your leftist ideology blinds you to the mountain of documented lies committed by Hillary. Her lies surrounding the deaths of American citizens in Benghazi, and her lies related to putting our national security at risk are unconscionable. Calling her political sins nothing more than opinions is beyond comprehension.

Trump is a clown with a broken filter who exaggerates to the extreme. No question. But threads like this are worthless unless you have the integrity to come to grips with Hillary's ongoing crimes against character, integrity, and the truth. So far, it doesn't seem to be happening.

 

We have also heard Jews were openingly celebrating as well.

While I am no fan of Hillary because of her militancy towards Iran, most of her comments are tame when compared with Trump.

 

They are both pretty scary when you actually listen too them without the political bias binders in the upright position. Neither would be a legitimate/viable choice as far as I am concerned.

 

No, sir, he is deliberately and maliciously lying to advance his pursuit of the nomination for president and you cannot excuse it by saying it's an exaggeration or all politicians do it. In the process he is also seriously maligning citizens of other countries by accusing them of all make and manner of crimes, or inflaming ethnic/religious hatreds and doing to in regions of the world where, as president, he will have to be a leader, negotiator, etc. and not just a loud voice in a bar room.

No, it is that whatever celebrations happened (and they did) did not happen here. There is zero evidence that they did. Also, I believe I read a report that said there is no way he could have seen what he claims to have seen on the day he says he saw it.

There was no determination because there was nothing to find, which is what Politifact attempted to do. I suggest you go back and read their article on it.

What Trump said was a flat out lie, top to bottom start to finish. And he is not man enough to admit his mistake.

I'm glad you're kind of mellow on this one, but we have enough of a messed up political process now than to have someone like Trump peddling his snake oil. I'm not buying it; I never have; and I will speak out, even if it's here.

 

This thread is not about Hillary. The Republicans had their chance to expose her so-called "lies" during the Benghazi all-day hearings. She cut them apart and exposed their caterwauling for what it was - lots of noise and invective divorced from reality. In the end, it looked like this:

BORING!!

 

In the Benghazi hearing, Hillary stonewalled and pretended to be clueless to many of the questions that were asked. If you call pretending to be stupid and otherwise ignorant "cutting them apart", you're less informed than I've given you credit for.

Hillary lied about about what she told the victim's families at the casket ceremony. She looked into each of the relatives eyes and told them it was all about a video when she already knew it was a planned terrorist attack. She did this to protect herself and Obama. Then she lied about telling multiple families the same lie.

What kind of despicable human being would put her political aspirations above the truth to grieving families? I'm assuming you wouldn't invite this kind of bottom feeding weasel into your personal life, so why would you trust that kind of person to lead our country? It's scary that you could rationalize this kind of manipulative evil away.

In any case, you can't make a case against Trump unless you show the awareness to acknowledge Hillary's world class warts first. There is no credibility in this kind of thread otherwise.

 

Lot's of partisan organizations betting on Hillary will say otherwise.

 

Again not defending him, would just appreciate some consistency. According to politifact, the source you place so much confidence in, Hillary is misleading or flat out lying almost 75% of the time. This is what you want for president?

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Exactly, they will defend their liar to the bitter end.

 

Since you posted no link, I did a bit of checking for myself and found that (at least on the first two pages), she met the same criteria as Trump only 34% of the time. I counted a full flip as one of the 34%. That is a long way from your assertion about her.

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Thank you for your opinions. I didn't see them at all that way.

 

Why would anyone hold The Great Flatu to statements of fact when he's a fictional candidate?

That would be like assessing George Lucas as a documentarian.

As a show business entertainer (Real politicians lie sometimes) his métier is make-believe.




Thats' entertainment!


Andy Kaufman is dead. Trump isn't.

 

So politifact can't even keep their own facts straight.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/

Here is the total breakdown according to them (and conveniently they obviously do not cover everything she says, and give her way way too much leeway), and as I said, according to them, she is only truthful 27% of the time, or almost 75% misleading or lying overall. Just admit you are going to support a lying POS, and are comfortable with this lying POS over the other lying POS. At least be consistent.

Then you are not being truthful or just lying to yourself.

 

Politifact did fine; you're the one with the problem. The comparison was between Hillary and Trump in three categories - Mostly False, False, and Pants on Fire. Hillary hit those three categories 29% of the time; Trump was nearly perfect, scoring in the high 90's for those three. In other words, about every time he opens his mouth, he's telling an egregious lie.

 

The thing about Trump is that he willingly admits he lies and he outlines how and why he lies in his book. Don't knock it - lying WORKS. And, apparently, people love it.

It's not exactly how I'd like to think my world has become, but what the hey?

 

Wait, it this about Trump? Or Hillary? Perhaps both, but you have to have the Cankle mentioned with you talk about someone being a liar.

 

So it is your position that if a candidate lies in their personal or professional life they should not be elected

 

Not even talking about Trump, and there is only one category that reflects the truth, all the rest are misleading deceptive or flat lies. The link I provided shows that Hillary lies (according to politifact) over 70% of the time. They only have her down at 1% of the time in the pants of fire, which is a pants on fire lie to begin with. Your source is a joke. Your denial is cute but completely dishonest. Hillary (again according to the source you provided) lies more than she tells the truth, but in reality most people who are not blinded by bias partisanship realize that is an understatement.

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Unless they are democrats and then they are cool. In fact they are praised for the lies they tell if it pushes the right agenda. Just like republicans giving passes to the Bush administration when they were lying threw their teeth on a regular basis. This two party BS has got to stop.