Let me tell you about the very rich.

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    They strive to be deadbeats, hellbent on hitching a free ride on the backs of everyone else.

    Governmental redistribution of wealth, as they manipulate it, is a rampant, one-way cataract.


    As a rarified elite, the only luxury they cannot afford is the right to vote thousands and thousands of times. They just get one - a quirk of democracy.

    So they buy votes, all they nee, in an investment on which they can be confident of returns far, far greater than their comparatively modest outlays.

    The rich are different from you and me.

    They know how to get us to pick up the tab for their banquet as well as our snack - and thank them for the privilege.


    "Taxes BAA'AAAD! Taxes BAA'AAAAD!"
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  2. Sanskrit

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    I don't know which is more funny, that you think moneyed elites aren't split mostly evenly Democrat/Republican (maybe even more Democrat if you factor in entertainment and media rich... often miraculously "left out" of diatribes against "the rich" because they vote overwhelmingly Democrat... sorry to burst your bubble, most of "the rich" aren't hedge fund managers or the like), or that you think that people who make $50 million a year really care that much about income taxes any more,

    "Oh damn honey, we only have $25 million after taxes for the year, whatever will we do?"
    "I don't really care, just so long as we get invitations to all the cool LW Hollywood parties. Guess we will be supporting Hillary, go ahead and write a check to Jeb too in case we need GOP favors down the road."

    You'll find many of those who avail themselves of your made up term "income defense industry" do in fact vote Democrat.

    Moreover, what a transparent, nasty trick the left attempts to play on its moronic, hateful voting blocs, falsely conflating average upper middle class small business owners who seek tax relief, doctors working 80 hour weeks, entrepreneurs starving on Ramen during 16 hour days before finally making it one day, even plumbers trying to add another truck to the three they have... with hedge fund managers. To hear the lying left tell it, we live in a country full of hedge fund managers, Koch brothers and the like, peasants and not much else.

    There are about 11,000 hedge funds in the US. Most are mediocre or failures. Only the top top funds ever lead to multimillion dollar pay for their managers.

    There are more than 200,000 medical offices in the U.S. and over 28 million small businesses. THESE are the people complaining about taxes.

    So why do we always hear about hedge fund managers? Because the left thinks you are a malleable, useful idiot.

    Are you? Are you suckered when they show you a picture of some hedge fund manager, his bejeweled wife and the island where his vaca house is? Are you?

    Talk about "vote buying" or rather "vote defrauding."

    Oh, and just to make sure we have driven the nail full home. Guess who led hedge fund managers in income in 2014 ($1.4 billion)? Guess what kinds of votes -he- buys?
     
  3. Alucard

    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    The Rich have always put lots of money in foreign bank accounts. Most of them have disdain for the poor.
     
  4. Belch

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    Most people know that voters are easily fooled. A few "Change!" themed slogans, and people will act like it's the second coming, no matter what.

    That's just the way things are. You can try changing the campaign laws, but it's still down to who has the most money to run around telling people "Change!" and the person with the most money will win. That's how democracy works. A bunch of fools who vote for the guy that they see on TV or on billboards the most.
     
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    Russ103 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's say you get your dream of sticking it to the "1%" via taxing the hell out of them without them having a way out whatsoever. How will that improve your life?

    Simple hypothetical question.
     
  6. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    It wouldn't, I'm doing fine. But those billions could be used far less frivolously by those who are desperate to share in a meagre portion if the rich paid their fair share.

    The number of homeless children in the US has surged to record highs even as the filthy rich have gotten filthier.

    It's a Christian thing.



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    ... and it's not just Republicans.
     
  7. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    Wrong, it's a Gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-MSM Complex PSA/propaganda thing. Numbers of the "homeless" going up and down has far more to do with specious social worker Complex massaged definitions and what party sits in the White House than reality. Specifically, homelessness somehow becomes an "epidemic" as Democrat administrations come to a close and during Republican administrations, yet is miraculously "solved" during the meat of Democrat administrations... at least the MSM and LW sewer pipe leads one to believe that based on their biased coverage. You are jumping the gun a bit with the "homeless/starving" prattle this far from the election, but aren't too much ahead of the pattern. If a Republican gets elected president, we'll be hearing about the "homeless epidemic" weekly if not daily. It's as if "the homeless" sprout out of the pavement whenever we have a GOP POTUS or one is threatened. Maybe you will be posting the "senior citizens eating dogfood" canard next.

    Oh, and wonder where most of "the homeless" live? in Democrat or GOP controlled cities? One set of facts the LW never wants to sink into its flock o morons is that homelessness is very much a localized problem, not a national one, that homeless people are not spread across the country evenly, but live mostly in the big very blue cities, finally that no amount of federal taxation will ever cure homelessness, so fabricating the age old "homeless have so little, rich have so much... let's raise the federal income tax" saw is fallacious.

    One group of people (parasites) benefits greatly from higher taxes; it's not the homeless, but the ever more greedy pigs at the myriad troughs in the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-MSM Complex.
     
  8. doombug

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    Funny how you leave out details. Oh well so does Sanders. He is always demonizing the rich without showing any actual figures. If you taxed these rich people 100% it would not be enough to pay for all the programs Sanders wants so guess where the rest will come from? That is correct: the middle class. Peddle your communism elsewhere folks here are to intelligent for it.
     
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    Ok. Let me tell you about the very poor. They made terrible choices and keep making them. They are drug addicts, their children have chronic lice because the parents are lazy and they live off the welfare system because they can. For them it's easier making and selling meth then getting a job and they consider it a family affair as their five toddlers from five different fathers play tag around around the meth kettle. Invariably the dirt poor mom will invite the dirt poor felon into her home and one of her kids end up abused and dead.

    So....there ya go. Balance.
     
  10. Professor Peabody

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    Typically Liberals and Democrats want to tax the rich as evidenced by a Massachusetts Senate proposal.....

    What does the Massachusetts Senate Democrats' tax plan mean for you?

    Then we see this...........

    George was required to disclose his financial status to the court prior to his sentencing in July 2015, but only reported about $160,000 in bank accounts and another $28,000 in cash. The Marshals say they found more than $1 million in the safe deposit boxes.

    They want higher taxes for higher earners, but not for themselves I guess. One way to avoid that is to simply hide the cash in safety deposit boxes then claim having "$160,000 in bank accounts and another $28,000 in cash."
     
  11. Jackster

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    The rich want socialism for big govt centralized control - it streamlines the pockets they have to fill for political favors, regulations and corporate welfare to maintain and build their monopolies. The leaders of big multi nationals would love nothing more than a one world socialist govt - then you're enslaved to them forever. The last thing they want is small govt, sovereign states, low taxation, free markets - competition. We've seen the same thing over and over again through out history.

    The left are idiots who keep following the global elite to their promised utopia that ends up with all the wealth and power in the hands of a few - they even knowingly vote to remove rights and property from people to feed the elites. Its sickening. At least on the right we know we have corrupt politicians that play a similar game and are trying to flush them out - we see the rise not only in the Republican party atm, but all over Europe. Meanwhile the leftist sheep are leading us all to the slaughter.

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    None of it can be achieved without big govt pulling the strings for them and not doing their primary job of keeping the markets free of coercion, they cant even keep themselves free of it.
     
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    The suckers believe The Donald is coming to save the middle class. It's a reality show with a tragic ending, for the middle class.

    Unfortunately, the vast majority of the middle class have long been suckers.
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  13. Natty Bumpo

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    A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

    "[A]ccording to three surveys that provided FiveThirtyEight with breakdowns of respondents by education level — CNN, NBC News/The Wall Street Journal and Quinnipiac — Trump’s leads relied on respondents without college degrees.

    In all three polls, Trump led by double digits among voters without degrees, but trailed among degree-holders."
     
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    And you think any other politician cares about saving the middle class because they don;t.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Oh, dear. Those pesky"Liberals!" and Democrats are at it again.

    "I would take carried interest out, and I would let people making hundreds of millions of dollars a year pay some tax, because right now they are paying very little tax and I think it's outrageous ... I want to lower taxes for the middle class ... the middle class is getting clobbered in this country ...You know the middle class built this country, not the hedge fund guys, but I know people in hedge funds that pay almost nothing and it's ridiculous, OK?" NEWSMAX quotes the Trump


    It would appear that the chronic bumkissers for the rich are being betrayed.
     
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    We live in a country where everyone desires to be rich and the opportunity is there. So why do we hate the ones who become rich?
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Why do you hate those who are rich?
     
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    Yea, bumkissers for the rich are being betrayed.

    Interesting, a billionaire, major campaign bundler and fundraiser for Barack Obama who walks away from Solyndra with a lucrative profit while taxpayers take the hit. Now he's hosting a fundraiser for Hillary, the Solyndra bankruptcy must have been good to him or he wouldn't be back fundraising for Democrats.

    "Hillary Clinton’s claim that she is not beholden to her wealthy donors"

    Yet this one......"managed to walk away with a lucrative profit at the expense of taxpayers."

    Yes we can see that.
     
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    Which is indubitably why you'll seldom read from any MSM source
    about Obama's Aristocracy.That's Right.Obama is out Fundraising in order
    to Buy America.There are More new Millionaires and Billionaires under Obama's
    Presidency than ever before in our vaunted History.As Sean Hannity did a
    fabulous documentary a few years ago titled - Boomtown - with Peter Schweizer
    and Stephen Bannon.Obama has effectively converted Washington D.C. into an
    - Imperial City -.Taking advantage of the hard fact that The Two Wealthiest Counties
    in America are right outside the Beltway { Washington D.C. }
    get the drift ?
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    The GOP is not only being butchslapped by the right wing entertainment industry.

    The fat cats are exploiting the permissive campaign funding legislation that they had their bought politicians pass to further their acquisitive agenda as they train the rabid "Don't tax the rich!" bumkissers to do their bidding.

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    The Great Flatu does not fit in with the Kochs' agenda. Obviously, they'd rather just let the show biz celebrity contrive his own collapse, but they'll take him out if necessary.
     
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    This is exactly why God says "A camel has a better chance of walking through the eye of a needle, than a rich man does getting into heaven".
     
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    The rich have gotten much richer under Obama. His ultimate goal is to do away with the middle class.
     
  23. Professor Peabody

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    You don't have disdain for someone who walks into your garage and makes off with your expensive tools? Re-Distribution is the exact same thing. The poor needs to spend much more time figuring out how to make their own money rather than how to take someone else's.
     
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    So now you know how other peoples money should be spent?
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If Count Alucard is insinuating that Republicans are mean-spirited and care
    little about those In need.It has already been studied and established.That Republicans
    on average give 30% or more to charity than do Democrats.
    Just knowing how Little those like V.P. Joe Biden gives yearly to charity is
    a mockery.Some of this Country's greatest Industrialist like Andrew Carnegie
    endowed or made sure most of his wealth got funneled back into schools and
    Hospitals and foundations for good.Like Libraries,Museums.
     

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