Mexico mayor murdered one day after taking office

Why not? We have a Commerce Clause. Are you implying our federal Congress is incompetent?

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We have a Commerce Clause; why are we losing money on Commerce at our borders.

Only Bad Capitalists don't have a Good answer.

 

Are you implying that they are competent? I can think of 19 trillion reasons to contest you. Our open border is only open one direction. Also, we pay tariffs to export to Mexico while they pay no tariff to export goods to US. Our border policies are the definintion of incompetence.

 

Running from open border debate I see

 

How difficult would it be for a drug cartel to bribe, blackmail or coerce any American government official to work for the cartel?

 

No I absolutely did not. Not everyone oveys the laws...thats why we have a term for it. Criminals.

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I didnt read any of this. Answer my question in the first sentence or buh-bye

 

In my opinion it is beyond irresponsible. Support for the War on Drugs makes you culpable in the fallout that surrounds it. It doesn't matter if the law agrees with me on this or not. I'm not here to serve the law. The law is here to serve us and in this context it is damaging lives across the globe in the interest of money and power.

Prosecutors, judges, police, politicians, kingpins, street level dealers etc etc make their careers on this so called war. No one seriously considers the War on Drugs to be effective in keeping drugs out of the hands of users. It is a thinly veil apparatus designed to capture funds and build a criminal justice industry that operates with a complete conflict of interest in how they appropriate seized capital and assets.

Referring to drug users as simply criminals is manipulative and meaningless. It undermines the designation and lumps them in with a vast array of dangerous people that actively commit crimes with and without drugs. It appeals to stereotypes and doesn't require critical thinking skills that would easily distinguish "fabricated criminals" (ones we create through law) and genuine criminals that facilitate their lives via crime or willfully, methodically commit crimes that directly victimize people (rape, murder, arson etc). The designation in this context is as useful as equating a Pit Bull to a Wolf. Yes, they are both canines and both of them are potentially dangerous, but one is bred that way and the other is doing what comes naturally.

We breed criminals with our War on Drugs. Anyone with any sense about drugs cannot both support the War on Drugs and legal Alcohol use. Preventing deaths by illegal drugs while ignoring those caused by Alcohol is like BLM putting an end to police related fatalities while ignoring the epidemic of black on black murders. No one takes BLM seriously for this reason and no on takes Drug War proponents seriously for the same reason. Perhaps the two groups should start working together considering that they don't want to save lives more than they want to be political and makes emotional appeals to a bunch of convoluted bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

It's a joke and they all know it. It's not funny, though. Just dangerously stupid.

 

You are saying the mexican govt is going to assasinate people who buy drugs here?

 

Can we here at PF start a Political Points system for people like the one quoted above? I'd like to look at their tally an instantly know whether or not they are here to say something meaningful or just score points.

I'll give you a couple for this one, Alpha. Lol. Comes to a reading forum and readily admits he doesn't read the content but somehow still has something to say....... Too cute.

This site really is for mere entertainment. Too bad.

 

We already have that system einstein. Look at the bars next to your name then mine.

 

I cannot get behind the legalization of methamphetamine, no matter what you say, and it all comes from Mexico. That's where the big drug money is, not in marijuana.

Users of meth do not need "drug treatment" until after they have already become addicted. I say seize it and destroy it where ever possible and try to reduce the number of addicts.

 

I guess the Right doesn't really believe in Capitalism as much as they allege in public venues.

 

You have a difference with one guy and so we're all ignoramuses?

Anyway you owe Alpha an apology for that flame.

 

You're putting words in my mouth and then telling me I owe someone else an apology. When did I call anyone an ignoramus? You did use an apt term, though. What is not ignorant about responding to a post you didn't read? It certainly isn't an informed response. I gave Alpha the respect of reading his posts and responding to them. If I call him out for not doing the same I won't be apologizing for that.

I'm ok with having differences with people. I'm not ok with someone dismissing my statements out of hand when I have shown his opinion enough respect to give a thoughtful response and after reading his posts. If he didn't bother to read what I said he didn't need to respond to me. He did, anyway. Why?

 

Or maybe a gun sold to them by Clinton and Bush's NAFTA agreement.

 

American citizens are the number one source of funding for the cartel. Since you want the Mexican government to start treating the cartels like ISIS, clearly the thing to do is for Mexico to start drone striking the homes of American drug buyers.

 

I'd rather we focus that time and energy on realistically looking at how and why people turn to drugs and address those problems. If someone wants or feels they need to use a drug law enforcement cannot stop them. It can only determine how to "treat" them. As it stands, we can take a look around and see how well our prison system is able to handle and turn around drug addicts. Not very well at all.

All the things surrounding the current War on Drugs are not unique to this era. The crimes, profits, destruction, "hotshots ("Rot Gut in Prohibition era) have all come and gone before. This time, however, even though the same approach is producing the same results we are determined to stay the course. It doesn't make any sense to me. I live in Detroit and see a lot of the Drug War firsthand. Take down one "trap house" and five others pop up elsewhere. The only thing that law enforcement is effective at doing is confiscating large sums of money and jailing street level dealers.

Who knew there was so much wealth in the ghettos?

 

Sounds good! Less clinton voters. But mexico has drones capable of striking US citizens?

 

Rush Limbaugh is a Clinton voter?

 

Did I say that? Nope. STRAWMAN POSTER! ALERT! ALERT!

 

But you tried to equate drug buyers to Clinton voters when that clearly isn't true.

 

Yes I did. Now read my statement again carefully and see if you can figure out the part you inferred incorrectly.