Leaked: Talking Points Memo Found at Trump Rally Instructs Anti-Trump Protesters On W

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  1. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Obama lamented “any effort to spread fear or encourage violence, or to shut people down when they’re trying to speak, or turn Americans against one another.”

    “As a citizen who will still be leading this office, I will not support somebody who practices that kind of politics,” the president said.

    But as a candidate for the White House in 2008, Mr. Obama was no stranger to violent rhetoric. He encouraged the notion that he was a product of Chicago’s particularly tough brand of politics.

    At a campaign event in Philadelphia in June 2008, Mr. Obama told supporters, “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun. Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”

    Later that year, as polls showed a close race between Mr. Obama and Republican nominee John McCain, Mr. Obama urged a crowd of about 1,500 at a campaign rally in Elko, Nevada, to get confrontational in their community for him.

    “I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors,” Mr. Obama said. “I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.”
     
  2. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People hate Trump because they claim the same old tired rhetoric, he's racist. At what point does revealing Hillary Clinton's ideals about blacks and violence NOT compare to the rhetoric we hear about Trump hating Mexicans and muslims? With that logic, Hillary hates blacks in the inner cities. I'm not changing the subject.

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    Right, and nobody was provoked... Now you're getting it.
     
  3. Talon

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    References to violence is a bad move so I would say Obama set the wrong tone and I do not support the knife and gun quote. I also oppose the get in their face comment or being confrontational.

    Sadly I am feeling alone here in opposing such incendiary language from both sides.
     
  5. snakestretcher

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    You mean faux outrage like the "Nazi" and "Sturmabteilung" hysteria that we're hearing from the terrified conservatives right here on this forum who seem to think that the Fourth Reich is just around the corner because a few tempers got frayed at a rally?
     
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    In that case, I guess no one protested and no one was punched. Welp, guess that is over.
     
  7. Talon

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    What, they didn't teach History in your village, snake?

    If they had, you would know that one of the functions of the the Nazi Sturmabteilung was to disrupt their political opponents' rallies, just like the ANSWERnik astroturf in this country is doing:

    Bill Ayers: Chicago anti-Trump protest was “fire from below” (with video)

    If you don't like your fellow travelers to be compared to Nazi Stormtroopers, then I suggest you tell your comrades to stop behaving like them. ;)
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    That's democracy in action, my friend, and it's how you did away with the British you so hated.
     
  9. Talon

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    Disrupting and inciting violence at other people's political rallies are fascist Stormtroopers in action.

    Democracies don't tolerate that crap, which is why we have laws forbidding and punishing it.
     
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    one nutter on the right how many on the left?
     
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    While there's nothing wrong with the memo (at least it doesn't threaten riots), what makes you think it came from TPM?

    The next question, an obvious one, is why are you opposed to peaceful demonstrations?
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    Or create some "Red Shirts" with T's on their arm bands and surround himself with them. That is where the leftist are driving us with this type of violent disruption against their political opponents along with using their government poser to do so.

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    You don't watching the news of people attacking his stage, go search it yourself I charge $20 a link.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesguy View Post
    The law says you have such a right at YOUR assembly which YOU are paying for and someone is engaging in a public disruption to prevent you from speaking. Especially when they become violent and threatening.

    There is also something called proper behavior and decorum.


    As for proper behavior and decorum, the pretense that one side has more of either is a laughable notion.



    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesguy View Post
    So you're going to be OK when Trump supporters violently shut down Clinton and Sanders rallies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    Private property is a different topic. That being said, this piece of pape that folks are touting of evidence of something does not in any way advocate anything other than use of words.

    These rallies are on private property or property they have rented and own for the occasion. The law says someone else cannot disruption it and I challenge you to go to a government meeting and try to shut it sown and see what happens.

    How about they both show it like don't engage in violent protest to shut down the others events or speech?

    So your positions fail when it comes to consistency and principle........gotcha.....ho w typical of the left.

    :popcorn:
     
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    The next question, an obvious one, why do you insist on putting words in someone's mouth? We both agree he never said that.
     
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    No, only the violent ones the left has been sponsoring.
     
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    Key difference, nut jobs here want More Government, our revolutionaries wanted less.
     
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    Of course they could have said that but they also said closing the rally would probably be the best option. You guys will try to hang on to even a sliver of anything that might make Trump look bad. I feel sorry for you.


    Trump didn't lie about anything. And yes the protestors should not have tried to block free speech at a private rally. BTW why is it any of yours or anyone else's business why Trump canceled? Hey, at least he didn't pee his pants the way Bernie did when BLM actually STOLE his microphone.
     
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    The violence is wrong no matter the side. Presidential candidates should not espouse campaign violence.
     
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    Strange that youre not tired of Trump spewing his nonsense. This place gets stranger by the day. ;)
     
  20. Think for myself

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    Do they? How so?
     
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    You would do well then to be an advocate of peaceful protests at the ballot box to your violent liberal cohorts. Trump shut it down for the reason of someone could get seriously hurt, and Media Matters took credit for a successful near riot protest preventing free speech, which is the liberal loon way
     
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    It was not a public forum, it was a private rally, and against the law to disrupt and intimidate the guests that support their candidate. This violent behavior is never done by the right, only the left
     
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    Okay. Was the owner of the flyer removed?


    Is there some disconnect here where I somehow said something that is being grossly and intentionally misinterpreted? Where folks think that I advocated violence, or are simply pretending I said it?



    My side is so awesome for no other reason than it is my side, so I am going to repeat this so I bolster feelings of worth.



    That is all I read in your post. No facts, nothing more than mindless cheerleading.
     
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    I see you can't refute my comment, which makes it a fact. If you have evidence of the organized right doing the same thing, post it and I will concede
     
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    I'm laughing at the liberals shouting at Trump.
    If you look at the number of threads about Trump, it's like free advertising.
    Remember, any publicity is good publicity.

    Leftist scum will always be leftist scum.
    They are not for freedom of speech.
    They will always try to shout down the opposition because they want to molest your children and rape your wife.
    They are not for prosperity.
    They want to steal your hard earned money and leave you with nothing but empty promises.
    They want to treat everybody like an abused wife.
    Hillary Clinton is the epitome of a Stockholm syndrome abuse victim.
    Right down to the arrogant. nose in the air, pose she always strikes.
     

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