God will accept , embrace and love homosexuals as his own creation .

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    greatdanechick Well-Known Member

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    In my opinion this is a dangerous message to teach. It leaves people thinking they can do anything they want in life because there is an out at the end. Belief if God does not absolve you of responsibility here on earth.


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    People ignore in what Jesus said, that he meant he represented The Truth.

    If at the end,... as in 1965,... Americans admitted that Rev Martin Luther King told the Truth,... and, then,... they changed the Civil Rights picture in America,... as they so did,... then the nation was saved by such means.
     
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    How do you feel about masturbation then? That is a form of sex that is outside the "bonds of marriage" given that there is one person present. No where in the bible does it say sex is only for procreation, oh and it conveniently feels good. People can, do and should have sex for pleasure without the intention of conceiving


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    Seriously? So all the starving people are made up? Humans may not cover every square inch of land, but what we do not personally cover our food does. 1/3 of the earth's land surface is uninhabitable, 1/3 is covered by human development and the final 1/3 is covered by our food (crops and animals). I guess we could keep adding people and just tear out the food sections. Oh wait, back to starving people...


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    Telling everyone about masturbation is what spreads the sexual promiscuity into the childrens' lives.

    The child abuse of fatherless children arises from a culture of sexual improprieties:


    CHILDREN NEED BOTH PARENTS
    63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census).
    90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes.
    85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes. (Source: Center for Disease Control).
    80% of rapist motivated by displaced anger come from fatherless homes. (Source: Criminal Justice and Behavior, Vol. 14, pp. 403-26).
    71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (Source: National Principals A Report on the State of High Schools).
    85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home. (Source: Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. Of Corrections, 1992).

    These statistics translate to mean that children from fatherless homes are:
    5 times more likely to commit suicide
    32 times more likely to run away
    20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
    14 times more likely to commit rape
    9 times more likely to drop out of high school
    20 times more likely to end up in prison

    Children from "fatherless families of single mother" homes are*:
    15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
    4.6 times more likely to commit suicide
    6.6 times more likely to become teenaged mothers
    24.3 times more likely to run away
    15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
    6.3 times more likely to be in a state-operated institutions
    10.8 times more likely to commit rape
    6.6 times more likely to drop out of school
    15.3 times more likely to end up in prison while a teenage
    73% of adolescent murderers come from mother only homes

    Daughters who live in mother only homes are 92% more likely to divorce**

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    http://www.cato.org/publications/con...-state-crime-0
     
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    Because they wouldn't figure it out on their own? You act like its a big secret they would never figure out. Masturbation is the opposite of promiscuity. You're pleasuring yourself so how are you being promiscuous?

    All this list tells me is that 1) there are way too many irresponsible men not raising their kids and 2) that we need comprehensive sex education and access to birth control.


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    If there is a god, he or she would love me and be proud of what I've accomplished no "repentance" necessary. My sexuality is not a sin. It's part of me, the same me Christians claim God made. Does God make mistakes?

    Love is not a sin, it's beautiful. My partner makes me a better person and I make her a better person. We comfort each other when we are down, encourage each other when we are afraid and celebrate the other when we are proud. What about that is a sin? I will never apologize for who I am. Not to Christians, and not to God. It would be a slap in the face to us both.


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    Agreed ... but, this is the central tenet of Protestantism.
     
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    OP...all man-made fantasy.

    The bible god said to kill the queers, not love em. Personally I don't care, but read your bible for the facts.
     
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    Is that inline with what God intended? The mind that is not in harmony with God, always seek to find more ways to sin, and I didn't say that sex was only for procreation; I simple said that God created sex to be between a man and a woman. Period.
     
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    When you was reading that, did you took the time to read what Jesus taught? The Old Covenant came with certain things, and the New Covenant have it's own set of things that is different. If God's people were living under the Old Covenant, then they would be required to sacrifice certain animals for their sins, not to mention many other things that came under that system.
     
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    I don't know what god intended... none of us do.

    Evidence that he or she created sex to be between a man and a woman?


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    When a person's way of thinking is distorted they can't see the truth. There are things that seem right, but it leads to death, the Bible tells us.

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    You may not, but not all of us are that ignorant. Just as a physically blind person cannot see the light of the sun, even so, the spiritually blind cannot see spiritual truth/light.
     
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    What about love, trust, pride, or compassion is distorted?

    You're wrong. Not all of us are so arrogant. If you're a true Christian who believes in the father, the son and the Holy Ghost you would know that above all else we aren't supposed to be arrogant and cast judgments where God should. If indeed God has a problem with the love I have for my girlfriend that is between me and God and is no one else's business. Who are you, or any Christian for that matter, to judge my life or my actions?


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    so why don't the homophobes go there then
     
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    will you have to describes a group, lgbt and homophobe describes two groups.. that is not name calling

    but I agree, there are not two kinds of marriage, just marriage

    now you could break them into subgroups, but I am sure you would think of that as name calling

    straight marriage
    inter-racial marriage
    same-gender marriage

    so lets just call it marriage, no name calling, just marriage

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    calling people ignorant never wins your arguments
     
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    Since you don't know, I'm going to be blunt: the anus is not a sex organ....it was not made for a man's penis.



    I have news for you......we have the God-given right to make Judgement when it comes to sin.

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    Am I in a race or some kind of completion? I'm not trying to win any argument.
     
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    Then explain the prostate which is stimulated during anal sex. Is the anus a sex organ for women? Because lots of men stick their penis in women's anuses. The mouth isn't a "sex" organ, our hands aren't "sex organs" yet both are used during sex. Are people who incorporate oral or hands as sinful as those who do butt stuff? Seems like they would have to be by your logic.

    You are not God. You are to worry about your own sin and how it affects your personal relationship to God. You're not given godly powers to judge and condemn others, only god is supposed to do that.





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    I don't know, are you? your the one that said it, then called people names

     
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    It was God who instituted marriage and if He intended for two people of the same sex to marry each other, He would have made it very clear.
     
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    Because you are.
     
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    god prefers no one to marry, but it's better to mary then burn with passion


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthians 7:8-9&version=NIV

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    8 Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am.
    9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
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    So if God didn't want no one to marry, then why did He tell Adam and Even to have children? Why did God created male and female, if He didn't want didn't want anyone to marry?

    Genesis 1:28-29 (ASV)
    28 And God blessed them: and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
    29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food:


    If God didn't want anyone to get married, He would have made human beings like angels....angels don't get married, so what's the purpose for making human beings with the ability to have children? Everything God makes and creates has a purpose for it's existence.......God is a purposeful God.
     
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    Today there are rules about marriage that can't be traced to the bible.

    And, with respect to the law, we don't make things illegal just because the bible doesn't like it - even when the bible is explicit and consistent. For example, look through the ten commandments and the 7 deadly sins to look for stuff the bible doesn't like, but for which there are no laws.

    The bible doesn't have standing in our courts.
     

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