Beware what you wish for: Russia is ready for war

And yet you can't provide any proof of any of that. You'll just post some pictures of some guy in cammies with a swastika armband and say "this is all the proof I have"

 

Clashes started November 30th 2013, at first, policemen used excessive force against protesters and journalists. There was people`s indignation , so clashes were going on.
Typical actions of that police:
[video=youtube;VtoesyTyD4s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtoesyTyD4s[/video]

 

Even if it means up to and including the compete destruction of America? Are you for real? I trust you're not a family man.

 

Don't say that - they're daft enough to do it to prove they can - or not, as the case may be??

 

What the idiots keep forgetting (and I've mentioned it often enough to point it out to them) is that for the obvious reason China will side with Russia. These braggers seem to have some kind of death wish.

 

Russia has the Legenda satellite targeting system. Look it up. It really fascinating. Legenda is old and is not active currently. I wouldn't be surprised if Russia has something better now. And if such a satellite for some strange reason doesn't exist, the. Legenda will still do just nicely. It will monitor the coast and target all the approaching ships. The coastal defense system will receive the targeting data and fire at the ships. Legenda will handle the targeting.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legenda_(satellite_system)

Remember, for the price of 1 aircraft carrier, Russia will have enough missile to wipe out the entire US Navy 10 times over. If all of them are linked to the legenda targeting system, then image the sea of flames that those missiles will create. I don't think that our country has missiles comparable to the carrier killer.

The S350 will protect the coastal defense systems armed with carrier killers. S350 will shoot down cruise missiles and S400 will handle the aircraft and other big things.

600km is a long distance. Do you want to see what 400km looks like?



That's close enough for them. Furthermore it has an altitude ceiling of 200km

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-500_(missile_system)

That means that s500 can shoot a missile out of space, even before it can deploy it's MIRVs.

It can simultaneously destroy 10 ballistic missiles.

So you have s350 that can take out small and large targets alike. Then you have S400 for high heavier things. And s500 for ICBMs.

This will layer dome is the best shield around. I am unable to find anything better than the combination of 3.

ICBMS leavs atmosphere when they are fired. But it is still not out of reach of s500. Like I said. Since it can not only take out targets at a distance of 600km, but it at an altitude of 200km as well. That means that it can destroy a ICBM before it has a chance to reenter the earth's atmosphere.

 

Try telling that to a college, or University proffesor, or anyone in the field if academia for that matter, and they will laugh at you and call you the retard that you are portraying yourself to be. I have cited rt which cited official military sources. The rt article that I posted said that it will enter service later this year.

But ad hominem will be an adhominem. Baseless garbage as always.

You think that wikipedia that anyone can write what ever they want in is more credible than an official military source.

You clearly are from the stars arnt you?

 

More you being an ad hominem, and more baseless nonsense

Why don't you run away again like you did last time?

 

Russia is a has-been power who can only overrun countries that are even weaker than they are, and even then only if the country is on Russia's border so they do not have to worry about logistics.

 

All correct. But note in addition that this applies to fighter-sized aircraft. Larger aircraft like bombers remain completely invisible to VHF radar.

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Because they are helping Assad commit genocide against the innocent civilians of his own country.

Georgian troops were few enough in number that they had to pick and choose what to defend, and they chose to defend their capital and primary city.

Russians did not destroy Georgian troops. Every time Russian forces came up against Georgian troops it was a decisive defeat for the Russians. Russian troops for the most part stayed well away from the Georgian troops (who stayed in position to defend their capital). Instead Russian troops focused mainly on raping and pillaging innocent civilians in the countryside.

I've no idea, but there probably is a reason.

 

The basic fundamentals of strategy are hardly unsupported nonsense.

"When you pack 10 warheads to one silo, it is the absolute worst way to deploy your warheads. If you have 30 silos with 300 warheads, your enemy can fire two warheads at each silo and destroy 300 of your warheads while expending only 60 of their own warheads."

Mainly because people in this thread are comparing them, and I'm addressing their points.

But I see nothing wrong with comparing them. Both are systems for launching nuclear warheads. The fact that one is a very good system and one is a very bad system doesn't mean that it is wrong to compare them.

No they can't.

I know that Russia is a bankrupt has-been power.

American stealth bombers are far from obsolete. Same with our submarines.

Oh good grief. Russia didn't start their nonsense about anti-carrier missiles after the end of the Cold War. We've been listening to the same nonsense about "the doom of our carriers" all through the Cold War. It's not as if the US Navy is unaware of Russian anti-ship missiles and has no defenses against them.

And even if Russia were to sink a US aircraft carrier, the response would be the sinking of the entire Russian Navy (what little of it still exists).

 

US can only overrun countries that are even weaker than they are

How many countries that are much weeker than us did we bomb and other such thing for the process of regime change? Let's look at supporting evidence from history.

Study: U.S. regime has killed 20-30 million people since World War Two - 37 victim nations

Afghanistan
Angola
Argentina
Bolivia
Brazil
Cambodia
Chad
Chile
China
Colombia
Cuba
Democratic Republic of Congo (formerly Zaire)
Dominican Republic
East Timor
El Salvador
Grenada
Guatemala
Haiti
Honduras
Hungary
Indonesia
Iran
Pakistan
Nepal
Nicaragua
Philippines
Sudan
Vietnam
Yugoslavia

Can't forget about Libya and Syria.

I mean the list just go on and on.

You try to portray Russia as some big bully. But we are the biggest bully of all. And history has shown this.

 

That's a pretty (*)(*)(*)(*) poor argument. "The US only attacks nations that are weaker then them." Ummmm... No (*)(*)(*)(*). ALL other nations are weaker then us. There is literally no one on this earth that we could attack where this doesn't apply. Kinda part of being the greatest superpower on earth.

And your study is absolute garbage. When the person who wrote it says (*)(*)(*)(*) like "the US was directly responsible for 10 to 15 million civilian deaths in the Korean and Vietnamese wars" that's an automatic read flag that the person is a retarded (*)(*)(*)(*) stick with an obvious agenda. I mean seriously read that sentence again. Are you (*)(*)(*)(*)ing kidding me? I know you have very low standards but even you aren't that partisan to think that this bull(*)(*)(*)(*) actually flies.

Other things that I see that are bull(*)(*)(*)(*) right off the bat.

Blames the US for 1.8 million deaths in Afghanistan because we "lulled the Soviet Union into invading." ??? Again. (*)(*)(*)(*) the guy who wrote this garbage. It's no wonder you have such a poor grasp of reality if this is the kind of place you get your facts.

Blames the US for 2.5 million deaths in Cambodia even though there is no proof whatsoever of US aid to Pol Pot and completely ignoring that it was the Chinese that were doing so.

Blamed us for 900,000 Chinese deaths during the Korean War. Extremely exaggerated number and also, ummm... THEY (*)(*)(*)(*)ING ATTACKED US!

Claims the current Iraq war has cost over 650,000 civilian lives. No. Try 150,000. Also blames us for the Gulf war ignoraing that saddam invaded Kuwait and for deaths by sanctions.


I can keep going on and on if you like?

 

They haven't done away with their other radar

Its kinda sad when citizens of your own country have to live in fear due to the stupidities that we commit.

That's what happens when one is brsinwashed. They believe made up stories. Do you know that in a fair and open elsection, Assad is winning by a landslide? That goes to show you that the rebels that we back and Soudi Arabia backs is the minority. Yet we demand regime change
So much for democracy. Did you know that documents released by wiki leaks show that we have been planning a rebellion in Syria since 2006? Talk about genocide. If it wasn't for our instigation of a rebelion, no fake foreign sponsored rebelion would have happened, and none of those people would have died. ISIS would not have gained as much power and land as it did and the European refugee crysis would never have happened.

Before you resort to ad hominem attacks as so many brainwashed idiots do: I remind you the fact that we instigated a rebelion in Syria is a fact that is supported by our own governments documents, which were of course released by wikileaks. Let's see if yoy got some more brainwashed nonsense

Georgian troops tossed grenades in homes of people while barring the doors.

And look at our media that's all trustworthy

[video=youtube;_UfnrIrkFrc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UfnrIrkFrc[/video]

As shown by this wonderful inverview of a 12 year old girl who was actually there, that was the georgians. Well, other more credible sources said this too.

Georgia's shameful attack on South Ossetia - LATimes

In recent days, there has been a remarkable change in Western opinion about the August war between Georgia and Russia over my homeland of South Ossetia. The New York Times, the BBC and Human Rights Watch have reported extensive evidence of U.S.-armed and trained Georgian troops attacking innocent civilians using cluster bombs and other banned weapons.

Brainwashed bias.

 

More baseless brainwashed nonsense

And you are a brainwashed ad hominem

Here's some more supporting evidence.

Do The Math: Global War On Terror Has Killed 4 Million Muslims Or More

Got anymore brainwashed and baseless nonsensical bias?

Im sure that you will just use more brainwashed and baseless nonsensical bias.

Yep. Just like we are responsible for all the deaths in Syria today. After all, if it wasn't for US orchestrating a rebellion in Syria than none of this would have ever happend.

The same can be applied to Afghanistan. We funded terrorist. Mujahideen who we all know became our best pals Al-Qaeda

U.S. bombing of Cambodia had already been underway for several years in secret under the Johnson and Nixon administrations, but when President Nixon openly began bombing in preparation for a land assault on Cambodia it caused major protests in the U.S. against the Vietnam War.

There is little awareness today of the scope of these bombings and the human suffering involved.

Immense damage was done to the villages and cities of Cambodia, causing refugees and internal displacement of the population. This unstable situation enabled the Khmer Rouge, a small political party led by Pol Pot, to assume power. Over the years we have repeatedly heard about the Khmer Rouge's role in the deaths of millions in Cambodia without any acknowledgement being made this mass killing was made possible by the the U.S. bombing of that nation which destabilized it by death , injuries, hunger and dislocation of its people.

So the U.S. bears responsibility not only for the deaths from the bombings but also for those resulting from the activities of the Khmer Rouge - a total of about 2.5 million people. Even when Vietnam latrer invaded Cambodia in 1979 the CIA was still supporting the Khmer Rouge. (1,2,3)

The Korean War started in 1950 when, according to the Truman administration, North Korea invaded South Korea on June 25th. However, since then another explanation has emerged which maintains that the attack by North Korea came during a time of many border incursions by both sides. South Korea initiated most of the border clashes with North Korea beginning in 1948. The North Korea government claimed that by 1949 the South Korean army committed 2,617 armed incursions. It was a myth that the Soviet Union ordered North Korea to attack South Korea. (1,2)

The U.S. started its attack before a U.N. resolution was passed supporting our nation's intervention, and our military forces added to the mayhem in the war by introducing the use of napalm. (1)

During the war the bulk of the deaths were South Koreans, North Koreans and Chinese. Four sources give deaths counts ranging from 1.8 to 4.5 million. (3,4,5,6) Another source gives a total of 4 million but does not identify to which nation they belonged. (7)

John H. Kim, a U.S. Army veteran and the Chair of the Korea Committee of Veterans for Peace, stated in an article that during the Korean War "the U.S. Army, Air Force and Navy were directly involved in the killing of about three million civilians - both South and North Koreans - at many locations throughout Korea...It is reported that the U.S. dropped some 650,000 tons of bombs, including 43,000 tons of napalm bombs, during the Korean War." It is presumed that this total does not include Chinese casualties.

US has a great history of lying about world affairs. We see this in Libia, Iran, Iraw, Syria. And all the civilian casualties that we tried to hide

In 1995 the Food and Agriculture Organization of the U.N. reported that U.N sanctions against on Iraq had been responsible for the deaths of more than 560,000 children since 1990. (5)

But covering up massive deaths is something that our country has a great history of this

Look, I got EVEN MORE SOURCES to support my argument.

Nearly half a million people have died from war-related causes in Iraq since the US-led invasion in 2003, according to an academic study published in the United States on Tuesday. - Huffington Post

What do you have again? Right! Nothing but nonsensical and baseless brainwashed bias

Please do. You are clearly winning this.

 

The military head of the multi headed Oligopoly-Bureaucracy Fusion Monster needs to have certain "necessary illusions" in place to justify the 1 Trillion/year in total military spending (not including interest)

US has to be some invincible version of a Hollywood super-hero on the side of "Good" and any competitors must be inferior in every way and on the side of "Evil".

It is almost akin to religious belief. Any information that conflicts with cult doctrine is "evil" and the adherent goes into denial mode.

 

It's true for every side. Russia sees itself as Absolute Goodness (even when shelling civilians), and sees EU with USA as godless Evil.

China has military conflict with Russia in the past. Overpopulated and more powerful China has interest in huge Russian territory.

 

Satellites usually are poor at searching moving targets. You need spy planes to do so. Most missiles currently don't have the tech to be guided by sattelites unless you are talking about GLONASS, GPS systems, which usually require ground mapping data.

The Russians aren't the Chinese. They don't have ballistic missile anti-ship missiles. They need air superiority and sea superiority to fire their anti-ship missiles.

Both Americans and Russians have cruise missile defense.

200 km altitude is not very high. Usually ICBMs have apogees(highest altitude) from 600 km-1200 km before they drop down in enormous speed. That means the ICBM has to intercept the warhead at pretty much the last moments of midcourse phase, targets that maneuver. As said Russia missile defense is no way as extensive in testing as US ones. But no matter, MAD is usually the best ICBM defense now. We haven't reached that level of tech.

 

Stealth planes of any size continue to be invisible to normal radar.

Justify Assad's genocide any way you want. It's your Karma.

Standard KGB propaganda. Putin likes to falsely accuse his victims of the very atrocities that he inflicts on them.

 

The Syrians decided for themselves to defend themselves after Assad started murdering them.

 

No wonder you don't think people should have guns.

Very war-mongery of you Ron.

 

Something tells me that Toggle Almendro hasn't the faintest idea what I mean nor what 'MAD' means. He'll find out the hard way I suppose, that's usually what stupid people have to do before they are able comprehend anything.

 

Like a few others here he's just a gobby would-be imperialist who has more testosterone than is good for him.

 

He certainly enjoys a totalitarian, war-mongering stance every once in a while.

No sane person would want a war with Russia, or anyone else who doesn't attack you first.

Let's get back to Glasnost can we?

The Russians are a tough and resourceful people, why can we not have mutual respect for each other?

 

Because so many of us have been raised to fear them.