Why is a Border Wall RACIST?

Great points! Not to mention when the zombie apocalypse starts we won't have an easy escape rout haha! In all seriousness though, how to the conservatives for smaller government not realize that while fencing Mexico out they would also fence us in?


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a wall won't solve our problems. it is just a waste of money.

better aqueducts, better roads, and more well regulated militia, would accomplish more.

 

For all the talk the conservatives do about reducing the size of government, on the immigration issue not only have they wasted more money than they anticipated saving, they made the most massive expenditures over that issue than any other in American history.

 

A wall is bad because of the Zombie Apocalypse?

Let me guess, you're a reader of Think Progress and Vox?

 

"The wall" is a bad and unnecessary idea. Money would be better spent increasing border patrol capabilities, enforcing the laws we have and increasing the penalties for those who hire illegals.

Take away the reason they come and they will not have a reason to come. Then we can concentrate on the real criminal element that will still try to violate the border.

"The wall" is not racist and neither are the reasons behind the wall racist. To say it is marks you as a racism peddler. A person who hopes to gain something from exploiting those who are true victims of racism. Shame on you.

Yes without a doubt there are true racists who support the wall because they are afraid. Racism and hate both boil down to fear.
These folks are in the minority. I have lived in southern border states (Arizona/Texas) most of my 59 years and im telling you for most it is a security issue. "The wall" just happens to be a misguided fix.

 

Shame on me for having the cahones to be honest. You say shame on me while you endorse socialism as a "fix" to what you perceive as a problem. Building a wall around the southern border is racist - PERIOD. And you have to remember I'm not on the left; nobody pays me to tell the truth; I'm not into exploitation and trying that psycho babble B.S. is only further proof that those who criticize real solutions have no solutions and hope to baffle you with B.S. (since they can't dazzle you with brilliance.)

The main thing I'm NOT peddling on this board is racism. That is the primary reason that, unlike you, I'm not offering a National Socialist "solution" (IF you could call regression a "solution") to a condition that the public would be better off addressing without an increase in the size, power, and scope of government.

 

I was joking. A more realistic example would be a future civil war or a foreign war fought on our soil. We have been very fortunate to not have that happen here. It's not our civilians that die by the hundreds of thousands. If Russia invaded tomorrow, I want to be able to get the heck out of dodge. Another reason to keep Mexico as a friend and not enrage them. There could be a day we need a friendly neighbor when none of our "allies" like Saudi Arabia will help us.


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Im all for honesty and clarity. I get it, for you the wall is racist. I accept your admission. Don't go putting your beliefs on others. Call out "TRUE" racism where you find it just don't manufacture it. Illegal is not a race.

Racism isn't left or right. I don't care what ideology you pray to. When you make racism out to be an ideological issue you cross over into using it as a tool to push an agenda. That's where i have a problem.

What is up with the socialism bent? Do you mean to say the wall is a socialist construct? I have never thought of it in that vein. Don't really care either way. Its a wall and its a poor solution.

 

Well we have had a civil war fought on our own territory, but I'm not sure how a wall would stop you from leaving the country. It's not like there would't be border checkpoints. However if you're really worried about it, you can go ahead and move to Mexico now, before you find yourself "trapped" in the United States.

 

The whole country is going to be in a world of hurt. I suspect Trump will win the general election.
But If he doesn't the country will turn more- non white (which has been the plan of the left to get "Instant democrats"). Eventually then whites will be physically targeted even more than they are now. The Knock Out Game will go viral.
Whites are beginning to wake up, hence the Trump movement. When whites, the "posterity" of the founders get down to 45% of the U.S. population they will be forced to fight back.
It will be a h e double l of a civil war.
Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duty and win the election.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rux-g-xmvUs

 

So, were they legal? Then welcome.

And third world hellholes like socialist Venezuela are exactly the kinds of places where people riot, loot, burn, vandalize cars, assault people who don't think like they do. You know, like the "protesters" in San Jose did....while carrying the Mexican flag.

 

yup; Only lousy Capitalists can't grow a capital economy.

 

I'm sorry if you found my post condescending - I was trying very hard not to be. Please remember that I know nothing about you other than what you've posted in this thread. Yes you said you're well prepared to defend your position. But everyone says that from people who only know a few talking points from talk radio to people with PhD's in the relevant field. All I have is the argument in your post to go on, and I tried to respond to it as neutrally and factually as I could. The way to rebut an anecdotal argument is with broad-based statistics and that's what I did. If I over-explained my argument, I would rather err on that side than on the side of not explaining enough. Both for you and for anyone else who happens to be reading this thread. It was not my intention to speak down to you or anyone else, and I apologize if that's how it came across to you. But when you get down to it telling someone that I think you're wrong will always have a sharp point, no matter how polite I try to be.

 

I see DEMOCRATS are Erecting a TALL FENCE Around DNC Convention Center in Philly

 

A wall isn't going to accomplish anything. But, I love the mental gymnastics you preform to convince yourself that anyone who doesn't want uninhibited immigration is a racist. This is why you're ilk are so (*)(*)(*)(*)ing dishonest when it comes to immigration. Why don't you just try being honest for once, and just say you want open borders. No, that would be way to (*)(*)(*)(*)ing easy. Sine the left is to cowardly to stand up for what they actually want, they try their best to blur the lines between legal, and illegal immigration.

 

I hate to inform you but I must. Mexicans have been coming here for generations. I know this is hard to swallow in the white world you live in, but get used to it. BTW, Mexicans are great folks, you should introduce yourself to them.

 

Deflect much? Silly question, of course you do.

 

If gun laws won't stop mass shootings, why do conservatives think a wall will stop illegal immigrants?


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Just right wing, Orwellian fantasy.

 

History.

The places in the United States with the highest gun crime also have the most restrictive gun laws.

We've seen how walls work. San Diego used to have a major problem with illegal entry and a series of walls/fences dropped the number of illegal entries. Israel has used walls against the West Bank and Gaza and saw a major drop in terrorism from Palestinians illegally crossing over from Israel. Now their Palestinian terrorism is almost all people who entered into Israel legally.

 

Jesus Christ, listen to yourself. Is it really that hard to believe that the world is not motivated solely on the race of individuals?

It is the right and duty of every nation to enforce it's laws, this includes immigration laws.

 

The U.S. is a better place with legal Mexican immigration.

Illegal immigration sucks.

 

The wall is racist because lIb/progs say it is. They are always right... just ask them.

 

Due to censorship, I haven't been here in a while and you are due an answer.

I do not argue that the wall is racist (though it is.) It is not the main point. Building a wall begins a series of events that ultimately destroys your constitutional Liberties. Case in point:

Constitution Free Zones

http://www.storyleak.com/dhs-constitution-free-zones-us/

These kinds of laws have a way of snowballing in a manner that the average layman cannot begin to fathom. When it affects you, you will probably start agreeing with me, but by then it might be a bit too late.

 

Ultimately, I believe that this will manifest itself in a civil war. I'd just like for the white people to enter that war with the non-white world being able to respect their position. You don't want to go into a war being wrong on both the moral and legal issues.

Somehow you have to look at this objectively. How can we have a nation founded on Liberty - complete with the Statue of Liberty and the welcome mat only to wage war against foreigners because they did not come "legally" and the whites oppose creating that "legal" path?