Florida nightclub shooting: 50 killed and 53 injured in 'act of terror'

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  1. NCspotter

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    From the article.....

    "Bars are one of a long list of places that Florida establishes as gun free zones"......"It is clear that Florida law prohibits people from legally carrying guns into any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose".

    So it doesn't matter what the nightclub owner thinks. He has to abide by Florida's laws.

    http://www.ammoland.com/2016/06/flo...hooting-was-in-a-gun-free-zone/#axzz4BNWcgDqS
     
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    well, there is a reason for that.

    guns and drunks don't mix too well
     
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    It is a political issue. We can't unkill the people. We can only respond.

    Politically, we have a Muslim terrorist who was a registered democrat mowing down a club full of gay people. This will be a political issue. For the left, it will be the AR15. For the right it will be should we let more Muslims into the country (though this guy was probably born here). These are the facts where the rubber hits the road. It should be politicized. It is how things get done. Our laws are politics of reaction. Our Bill of Rights is political reaction to the tactics/practices of the British.


    Anyway, tragic as hell for those families.
     
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    wonder why no one swarmed him and tackled him since they didn't have hand guns to protect themselves, do to metal detectors searches before they enter the club.
     
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    if the place was packed and dark, it was likely very difficult to spot the shooter.

    and many shooters are very good at changing magazines super fast.

    plus, 100 round magazines are legal in Florida.
     
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    I realize that, and nightclubs are one of the only places where I don't think it is smart for most of the people to carry guns.

    However, for employees and owners, I think they should be allowed to carry. They are not going to be drunk off their butt and would be able to defend everyone else in cases like this.
     
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    Thank you Republican governor Rick Scott.
     
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    employees who are required to NOT drink on duty, and can be fired if they do drink on duty, should be allowed to carry.

    i think after this, armed guards will become a lot more common place all over this country.

    in big places, small places, everywhere.

    if i had a bar or restaurant or club, Id have a gun on me.
     
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    That's common sense
     
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    I agree, that's the point I was trying to make.
     
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    gun-free zone laws cannot prevent an owner from carrying in his establishment.

    i bet, there is also an exception for employees sworn to not drink.
     
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    Russia had a military base in Cuba until 2002 but they couldn't afford to keep it open.
     
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    Which is kind of dumb. Security outside doesn't have guns. So a person with a gun can just shoot them and enter the club. The people inside wont know whats going on due to loud music. If anyone should have guns then it should be club security.
     
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    How long before some nutjob claims this is a CIA secret operation.
     
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    of that this guy is a paid Liberal, to get more support for gun laws.
     
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    Worst mass shooting in U.S. history in Orlando, Florida at gay nightclub...
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    Orlando gay nightclub shooting: 50 killed, suspect is Omar Mateen
    Sun, 12 Jun 2016 - The death toll in Saturday's shooting in a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida, has risen to 50, the mayor says, the deadliest mass shooting in recent US history.
    See also:

    Reaction to Florida nightclub mass shooting
    Jun 12,`16 -- Reaction to the Florida mass shooting at the Pulse Orlando nightclub Sunday when police say a gunman wielding an assault-type rifle opened fire before dying in a gunfight with SWAT officers; at least 50 people were killed and dozens of others wounded.
     
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    I'm sure they had a system capable of firing long ranged cruise missiles at US there as well being capable to impede our nuclear capability. You do know that that base was only used for spying right?

    https://www.rt.com/politics/256829-russia-cuba-lourdes-base/

    Looks like they are looking to open it up again. I wonder how we will respond once they do that and militarize it beyond its current spying capability by putting a missile system there that is similar to Agis ? I'm sure that we will not respond in turn and do something "better".
     
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    A perfect target for a fundamentalist conservative radicalized child of muslim immigrants. Nothing represent the Sodomites of the West more than a night club, full of drunk, drugged up, pelvis humping people gratifying themselves in the evil carnal sins of the flesh. Such as to affront to the only one and true god and Mohamed His Prophet. Even moderate muslims might think, yeah, these Sodomites had it coming. Even if they would not do it themselves.

    Sharia would fix this problem in America, with being a sister to Sodom and Gomorrah. Chop off heads, or stone a few of these pelvic thrusting satanic costumed Sodomite Hedonists and you might clean their acts up right fast. And really make America great again. Or you could listen to trump and cut off all muslim immigration until we get a handle on it, and decide that some religions and cultures create too much danger to American society to allow them in in such large numbers. Kinda of like having the sense to keep the foxes out of the chicken coup, and not paying attention to those calling you an evil hater of foxes. You know, those people who do not own chicken houses nor are subjected to foxes.
     
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    Let's not blame Islam or make this political. There is no need to rush to judgement.

    I'm sure that the Obama Administration will find out that it was a protest against an
    offensive gay video that took place before the massacre which just got out of hand.

    Then they'll promise to throw the maker of the offensive gay video in jail.
     
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    Liberals is a pretty vague word. Would consceled 9mm have made a difference to a guy with a death wish. The gun laws aren't the issue here.Imo
     
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    I think the point being made was that the gun free policy was wrong. The right to have it in place wasn't being questioned, just the wisdom of it.
     
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    Its a CIA secret operation that is designed to make the public weary of guns, swaying their opinion towards anti-gun laws in the process.:smile:
     
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    no, its a Trump operation to make more Americans support his anti-Muslim agenda
     
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    Ha, I have the book in your avatar sitting right next to me.
     

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