Stanford Rape Case:Doesn't modern day, 3rd wave feminism have to share some blame?

Where did I say in my post that nudity causes rape ? I said a nude woman is a sexual being to any straight man. It's nature. You're confusing rapists with your typical horny straight male. You need to read up more.

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Do you feel sorry for guys who break into zoos and get mauled by lions ? I do. But I am not going to feel they didn't invite trouble. When you're passed out drunk, alone, and a female, you are inviting rapists to take advantage of you. Why be so foolish to do such a thing ?

 

If a woman is dumb enough to be alone, drunk, and on the verge of passing out, she has made an idiotic decision and bears responsibility for making that decision. The rape, though, is 100% of the fault of the rapists. You act like taking precautions is "victim blaming," it's not.

I tell my girlfriend have her keys pointed out when getting out of a car, and to unlock the door before she gets into the car. I am not blaming her - it's being proactive.

 

Because you weren't driving. Guess who gets the DUI? Guess whose insurance rates goes up? Guess who gets sued? The DRIVER. The one who broke the law.

 

Well some people are addicted to alcohol too. Alcoholism is recognized as a disease now. Not really so much of a "choice" for some people.

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Why do you keep calling women dumb? A mistake in judgement or a bad decision does not mean a person is "dumb." So we can assume that you've never had too much to drink then? If so, I suppose according to your standards that would make YOU dumb.

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Good grief. Fine, I bow to your superior expertise in penises.

 

if that were true then public intoxication and drunk driving should not be a crime..... it's a fine line there

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I disagree, and it is considered a disease.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease_theory_of_alcoholism

The modern disease theory of alcoholism states that problem drinking is sometimes caused by a disease of the brain, characterized by altered brain structure and function. The American Medical Association (AMA) declared that alcoholism was an illness in 1956.

 

no, your agreeing with me... as that is exactly what I am saying

the rapist is 100% to blame for his or her actions, I have said that repeatably

I only said that getting so drunk you pass out increases your risk of being abused or raped....

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A lot of people who drink are alcoholics. Alcoholism is a disease. I know, my dad suffered from it and he drank himself to death.

 

you can't arrest someone for walking down the street with a disease.... should alcoholics get a free pass?

 

This is a question I've wrestled with for a while. A person can not consent to sex when they are drunk. But they can consent to driving a car or committing another crime. No. I do not believe that we should suddenly change the law and say if a person is blitzed and is raped that it shouldn't be rape. But I do think we need to look seriously at how others that are treated by the judicial system for being in the same state while committing another offense. It is a very slippery slope.

 

I didn't say that. I said it is a disease and the Medical Association agrees.

 

And guess who ends up in a wheel chair for life, you. You who made the decision to get in a car with a drunk behind the wheel

 

I don't get this line of discussion since drinking and driving IS against the law. There are harsh punishments for doing it. What does this have to do with raping unconscious women . . . or men?

 

If I got drunk, drove, and hit the side of a building, I won't blame the building. If you get drunk, are a female walking home alone and you get raped, the rape is the fault of rapists, but that rapist is not a moral being - he is a sexual predator. It's in his nature to rape and women must protect themselves from people like that. Rapists are not capable of not raping because it's in their brain wiring to be sexual predators. That's where you are and I are having a difference of opinion on this issue. You keep thinking that rapists choose to rape - they don't. It's their nature.

 

It's about decision making and taking personal responsibility for your decisions. Get in a car with a drunk behind the wheel, get in a wreck, spend your life in a wheel chair. Get passed out drunk in the presence of a drunk horny teenage boy and get raped while your unconscious. Both scenarios involve a bad choice you made and right or wrong you live with the results of your decisions in life

 

oh, i see we both are in agreement on this issue. The problem with feminism is its inability to demand women be held responsible for themselves. The world isn't all roses and unicorns. There are sexual predators out there who find it very easy to rape a drunk girl walking home alone. It's not victim-blaming to suggest to women to drink in groups with people they know.

 

or a drunk passed out girl or a guy as in my example... yes, we have to make sure we do our best to keep ourselves safe form other drunk people, it's sad that is the world we live in, but it is

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Dodge #2 - Please note, he will not write; "Raping a female for any and all reasons, is evil, wrong and immoral". And, as I explained before, it's some kind of an evangelical mysticism outside of Christianity that compels some people, mainly men, to invoke the archaic notion that EVE (the adam and eve myth) tempted adam and is now Eve is responsible for all the evil in this world.

 

Why? Should a murderer get off easier because the victim wasn't armed? Should a thief get off easier because the victim didn't have an alarm?

 

If you don't believe that nudity causes rape (as I do) then what does it matter if a nude woman is a "sexual being to any straight man"? If a man can view a naked woman and not rape her, then what does it matter if she walks around nude, in a bikini or in a burka? This is my whole point. Men are not slaves to their sex drive. They are not animals (like lions) running only on instinct. We can choose how to behave around women and we can choose not to rape them. A woman should never have to fear being raped with men being around, regardless of what state she is in.

 

Let me tell ya. The average feminazi dreams of dancing all naked in the middle of a party, exposing their gorgeous bodies among a crowd of drunk teenagers, maybe even kiss some of them but only the ones they like, while pretending at the same time that nobody dares lay a finger on them. They want domination over males it is their wettiest dream.

 

Your line is getting predictable and boring. You need to grow up and realize there are predators out there who don't give two (*)(*)(*)(*)s about consent or about morality. They'll rape you because it's their nature, it's in their brain wiring. You are only hurting women with these childish concepts of "teach men not to rape."

I was never once told rape was bad and I have never raped a woman. That's because I'm not a sociopath. You don't have science, logic, or biology on your side. You have wishful thinking.

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LOL - you still don't get it. Moral men, the majority of men, will see a naked woman, drunk alone, by herself and not rape her even if they are sexually attracted to her. A rapist will see the same woman and look at her as easy prey because he's a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing rapist. How are you not getting this ?

 

The problem for feminists is that most women despise them. Your typical feminist is angry, overweight, alone, unattractive, and hates the world. But instead of bettering herself, she wants the bar lowered. This is why there is such a movement for "fat acceptance" in the feminist community. They know it's much easier to bash the Patriarchy and complain that men are simply brainwashed into finding fit women attractive than it is to do this every morning at 6am -



I guarantee you the hottie in the photo is not a feminist - because she doesn't need to be one.

 

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Again cannot you say: "Raping a female for any and all reasons, is evil, wrong and immoral" because you believe that there are instances where a female was leading a man into sin, therefore, she theologically deserves to be raped.

 

I did earlier - perhaps reading things completely is not your thing. I completely agree that raping a female for any and all reasons, is evil, wrong and immoral. The problem is, rapist don't care about those things. If you took a rapist and made him repeat this a million times a day, he would still go out and rape a drunk woman walking home alone. It's obvious feminism is for and by low information people.