PM quits after UK votes to leave EU in historic Brexit referendum >>>MOD WARNING<<<

So you think the UK votes everyone in the EU Parliament? The majority are not elected by the UK.

 

Britain knew the rules when they joined the EU.

 

Brexit is a link in the chain of events that shows a rapid disintegration of the existing world order and a maturation of the revolutionary situation in the world. "Syriza" in Greece, Jeremy Corbin in Britain, ultras in Austria are close to victory, the Movement of Five Stars are taking cities and threatening to hold a referendum similar to British, Sanders in the US has almost turned over the Democratic party , Trump has already did this with the Republican. By the way, Trump has endorsed Brexit and wais for all Americans who stand for change.
there is no country in the "old world" where the various populist movements do not breathe down the neck of old ruling elites. Putin, of course, can be glad, but the change brings no good to him. It's impossible to freeze the country when the world is boiling around.

The world is stepping into a period of a revolutionary situation. As it was expected, the first who take power are "moderate revolutionaries" and only when the logic of situation will require more decisive action, conventional Jacobins and Bolsheviks will come to bring everything to the end and to organize the world under the new rules.
And there will be no stable fascist regimes, which could stop the process.

We are waiting for changes.

 

Sour grapes. They soon would have.

 

No it was caused by the state spending 50% more money thanow it had.

 

IMO it's just a rejection of the NWO.

Why jump from one form of slavery to another? Your "revolutions all lead to murder and slavery.

 

This was in no way a victory for Marxism in fact it was a completernal rejection of internationalism one of the few policies that Marx actually had right albeit under an unsustainable and deeply flawed economic system where as internationalism under capitalist economic policies is desirable.

 

I watched the entire count unfold last night. At 11.30pm, an hour and a half after the polls had closed, UKIP leader Nigel Farage essentially conceded defeat in the referendum, by hinting that Leave had almost no chance of winning. The betting odds were, I think, 7/1 in favour of Remain at that stage. By 3.00am the odds has swung, for the first time in the entire campaign (3 years), towards Leave. There was still about 2/3 of the results to come in. By 4.00am, it was fairly obvious which way it was going to go.

This campaign is going to be studied in political science classes for decades. The vast majority of established political and economic thinking were backing a Remain vote, from the outset. The Democrats are going to have months of sleepless nights over what has just happened in this referendum.

 

IMO Trump would not be stupid enough to place himself in that kind of situation.

 

They can trade with Canada, Australia, and the US, for starters...

 

Not so. Ireland shares a common land area with Britain, which has been completely open since 1999, following the the Good Friday agreement which brought about the end of hostilities in Northern Ireland. Look at my post above for details of how this issue will have to be addressed by the the people of Northern Ireland, the people of Ireland, and the UK government in London.

 

I meant England/Scotland/Wales.

everyone must show a passport to enter.

passport not required to travel from Ulster to Ireland

 

Brexit is not a revolutionary movement. It is a democratic one. And Jeremy Corbyn of the British Labour party is as good as finish as the head of the Labour party. Many of Labour's urban strongholds that were predicted to vote Remain, voted Leave. Corbyn is a former Labour eurosceptic, who is now seen by many leading figures in his party to have not pushed the Leave agenda hard enough. His potential replacement will not be as far left as he is. If he stays Labour will not be able to fully capitalise on the utter calamity within the ranks of the Conservative party due to the referendum.

Make no mistake. Part of the reason behind the holding of this referendum in the first place, is because David Cameron assumed that it was a cert to fail. He was partially using it to quell the Boris Johnson Eurosceptic split in the party. History will not be kind to Mr Cameron in this regard. Not at all.

 

Passports are not required to travel from Northern Ireland to Scotland, either. Once you are in Ireland you can cross the border from Ireland into Northern Ireland, and then on into the rest of the UK. There are no border checks. You don't even know you have crossed the border unless you know the colour codes of the road signs.

To be fair, you did say Britain, which only encompases the Island of Britain.

 

Anything 'Lite' means the manufacturers used more water in it!

 

Only the parliament's voting fodder - the ones with power elect one another, and behind closed doors.

 

Quite right - and because many of them are up to their necks in it themselves.

 

They're already trying to make things difficult for us. In a few weeks they'll be at each other's throats like rats in a sack and then it will implode. And all this time they've been referring to one another as 'our partners'? The project was doomed to failure from day 1.

 

The EU is owed by Gazi's (global socialist) and Britten sees there nation being sold out, and cashed out, to float this new class of citizen. Citizens of the World, or Gazi.

 

Some have 'walked' through the tunnel?? The way to go these days is grab anything that floats, cast off from Calais in it, then get rescued en route by the UK Border Force and delivered safely to UK shores. Next thing we know is they'll be collected by the UKBF from the port of Calais. 'Welcome aboard everybody, refreshments are in the restaurant. We hope you enjoy your journey.'

 

I don't think many migrants from Calais - or from anywhere else for that matter - are gonna turn up out of the blue onto southern Irish shores?

 

You are the proof of why EU should not exist. People like you label those who are against EU as "Extremists" and now also "Putin lovers"
You are not any different from those who said the same things and were pro Soviet or pro 3rd Reich.

So take that EU up your as deep as you can and shout "PUTIN IS COMING"

 

To be frank starcitizen I am just going from a few interviews BBC news site had with various people. However there is no question that is what they were speaking about. How it was put was 'this referendum is just about what we don't want. We don't want to stay in the EU as our relationship is. Now we need to have a referendum as to how we do want our relationship with the EU'. Obviously like you said the interviewer pointed out that the people who voted exit would be somewhat upset but this was dismissed. We possibly should remember that the people who voted to leave are apparently on the whole uneducated. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-after-brexit-result-announced-a3280581.html# and Brexit made very sure of getting votes from such people, even getting the vote of people who had never voted before from counsel estates.

so no, these people thought, with the second part of the above that they could easily get away with it by just saying that was the first part of the question, now we must decided what we want - generally speaking seemed to be associate membership. They also said it was a very narrow win and people are regretting so we may not leave. A party could have it as part of their election campaign to stay they said. We will just take our time.

This fits in completely with what Boris Johnson said when he first decided to change from remain to leave. He said they would have a second referendum if they voted to leave. However the EU said they would not accept that.

They EU believe it is a done deal. Those people believe anything but. They appeared to believe the UK was still in a position where it could decide whether we stayed in and how we stay in and if we stayed in that we had the power to say under what conditions. From where I stand it is arrogance of the highest level. I hope the EU make them stick by what they have done. They seem to be relying on that they will not.

 

This page of the Guardian has a few interesting headlines. Pro-brexit MEP admits free movement of people may not stop - not sure where the actual article is

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jun/25/brexit-live-emergency-meetings-eu-uk-leave-vote

and

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

already has almost a million signatures.

 

His political ploy backfired.