Israel to pay over $21 million to families of Mavi Marmara peace activitists

In your video it shows only one side of the ship, and it shows men throwing bottles thoward the soldiers in minute 37:18 and also in minute 37:29 and screaming "Allah Akbar", as the IDF video shows.

In minute 41:40 you indeed see two ropes sliding down from the first helicopter, but on the second rope only two soldiers slided down it, and after that they stopped. Which means it renforce what the IDF video is showing that the second rope got tied up and no one used it since.
Let us not forget as well that the cameraman is not focusing on what the men are doing, but in the most parts is showing another journalist and talked to him while it shows in his footage activists of the ship attacking the soldiers by using David's slings, bottles etc.- as the IDF video shows.

 

I'll ignore this because as it is completely irrelvant !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you realise that what you have written debunks your timeline video?
In your video at time 10:05 "After the first black hawk rope is dropped 3 activists tie the rope to the deck of the ship. The second rope is dropped and the soldiers begin to slide down."

Notice the video in your link shows the tied rope for several seconds before the second rope is dropped. The "activists" video shows the two ropes being dropped one second apart at 41:28 and 41:29

The two videos clearly show different boardings,

Edit more than one minute between the two ropes dropped according to your video

 

Why do you use so much exclamation marks? Do you think that the more of exclamation marks that you will you, will benefit your claims?

What I wrote about minutes 37:18 and 37:29 is undeed not disscusing about the ropes, but it was written to show you that your video shows the same things of what the IDF video shows.

Right, the comentary says "after the first balck hawk roe is dropped", but it does not say that the rope got tied up right after the roped was been dropped, or that two soldiers slided down it and then the activists tied it. Hence, it not necceserily debunks my claims but reinforces it and your video shows that after the two soldiers silded down the rope, it been tied up.

The video of the timeline shows a different footage which was of a soldier that said that the activists tied the first rope, between ones drop to another, and it doesnt show how much time has passed between the drop of the first and the second rope. Thus, it does not debunks what your video shows.

 

Your video shows the first rope already tied up at the time your video shows the second rope being dropped. Your video shows timelines of 04:30 for first rope, 04:32 for second rope. This is not complicated. The activists video shows both ropes being dropped within one second of each other. Do you really think that the activists could tie up the first rope within one second before the other rope is dropped. ?

 

As I alreay said, in my video there is another footage that was shown between the drop of the one and second rope, and thus it not necceserily means that 2 seconds passed between the first and the second, because in those two seconds it shows also what the soldiers said about the first rope. It's indeed not so complicated, only simple watch of the video tells us that the video does not shows a two seconds gape between the first and the second ropes.

Also in minute 10:39 it shows us a bounch of men hit someone with crossbars, and the location was just where the first rope wsa dropped. Hence, whoever dropped from the first rope got hit by the men, which hit only the soldier and didnt hurt each other.

The activists didnt tied the rope in this 1 second gape, but took them several second, because the two ropes was been dropped withing one second, but the first soldier slided the first rope in minute 41:38 and the silding stopped in 41:45, so yes, a man can tie a rope withing this time, if he is using a simple and not complex tie and if the man knows the technique of the tie.

 

Stop launching rockets.

 

What is this two second gap? I've never mentioned a 2 second gap.

Wrong. In the activist video, the first rope was dropped at 41:28, second rope dropped at 41:29. your video shows one rope already tied up before the second rope is seen dropping. Why does your video not show the second rope dropping and unvavelling while the first rope is being tied up. You are not doing yourself justice by arguing this point

 

So what are you saying ? the IDF video is a fake or is it from another boarding attempt ?

 

I mean that you say that in te video I provided the ropes are been dropped in 2 seconds, while between this two seconds it also shows what the sodliers are saying about the first rope that been tied up, so it cant be happen that it took 2 seconds for he two ropes to slide down, since it is no what the video is shown. And if we exmine the video I provided in this point a little further, we will see that no where in the video the comentary says howmuch times took for the two ropes to be drop down.

The comentary of the video says in minute 10:32: "every soldier that slides down is attacked by two to four activies. hence, that right after they are getting to the ship by the rope, they arebeen attacked by the activies, thus the footage in minute 10:39 shows how four activies attacking someone right at the bottom of the rope, and that's indicate us that the man that the activists are ttacking at the bottom of the first rope is a solder. And the comentary thta been given in minute 10:32 just reinforces it.

 

Clearly the activists video of the helicopter boarding is not the same boarding as that of the IDF video. The IDF released their video first stating it was a video of the first boarding. So that is a lie. The activist video was released a few days later. If I had to give an answer I would say fake but the quality and editing is so bad i struggle to believe that this video is real or fake, more like a child got hold of cuttings from someone else's films and hurriedly edited it together as a school project.

 

I did not say that. I said that in your video the 24 hour clock timeframe for the first rope was 04:30 (morning). The 24 hour time frame for the second rope was 04:32 (morning).

The woman does not say that. She uses the word "begin". She says quote "The second rope is dropped and the soldiers begin to slide down."

Why do you keep ignoring the fact that the activist video shows one rope dropped one second after the second rope dropped. Yet your video shows one rope already tied up before the second rope leaves the helicopter.

 

From the OP: A high ranking Israeli official claimed that one of the main parts of the reconciliation agreement is that the IDF soldiers and commanders who took part in the operation to capture the ship will not be prosecuted in the International Criminal Court in The Hague.

Israel and its US partner, are frantically scrambling to prevent any Israel appearance at the ICC because there is backlog of cases against the IDF for war crimes and brutality which will bring down devastating BDS sanctions on the rogue Likud regime. It is only a matter of time. Every day Palestine inches closer to full UN membership and access to the World Court. The US veto is all that shelters Israel from world justice.

 

There's no such thing as Palestine or a Palestinian people as the Arab leadership in the disputed territory regularly admits.

 

That is not clear to anyone except you apparently. Where is the activist video of the 2nd helicopter drop then bud? Logic is not your strong suit.

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You're a holocaust denier and a Jews did 9-11 twoofer loling.

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You're a holocaust denier and a Jews did 9-11 twoofer who believes that the pulse nightclub shooting was staged using crisis actors, loling.

 

You can't even see the ropes in your video, try again.

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We've seen all that needs to be seen, you have posted zero, I repeat, zero evidence that the IDF footage was doctored and you laughably claimed that they were using actors, you have no credibility whatsoever.

 

You're a holocaust denying, Jews did 9-11 twoofer, and believe that the pulse night club was staged using actors. Don't talk about credibility.

 

His video just made your video abundantly clear, your video is showing the 2nd helicopter drop not the first, the helicopter can be heard as early as 39:00 but a helicopter doesn't appear on your video until 40:30, if that is not the case then why does your video not show the second helicopter drop?

 

and yet you show now sympathy for the almost 1 million Jews who died of gassing, shooting, beating, cold, and starvation at Auschwitz!!!

 

What? Have you had a complete meltdown? How many threads are you doing this crap on?

 

well, do you have sympathy for the almost 1 million Jews killed at Auschwitz?

 

After this response, go grab a snack and maybe a drink. You are going crazy on multiple threads with this stuff and should be embarrassed.

How many times have I said:

Does it matter if it was 12,000,000, 6,000,000, 3,000,000, 1,000,000, or a couple hundred thousand? It was terrible and Jews being singled out solely because of their religion is disgusting.

 

most estimates put Shoah numbers between 4.5 and 6.2 million killed, by gassing, shooting, starving, exposure, beating, torture

 

We dont agree that that's not the same heli and I do think its the one and only boarding but Im trying to grasp what YOU are saying because anyone can just deny, do you have a logical story that explains these events ? from what I've seen both movies complete each other and they fit perfectly, your only excuse for 2 diffrent boardings are the ropes ? the activists movie doesnt show the ropes or the landing that clear to be counting seconds, its more like your wish than fact and your story doesnt make sense.

 

That's the Holocaust which you deny remember ?

Show me a picture of those "thirsty, starving, sick children " from one of the gazillion reporters in Gaza.

 

There is no debate on the authenticity of the IDF video lol you ppl are something special