Israel to pay over $21 million to families of Mavi Marmara peace activitists

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    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4820882,00.html

    I have to LOL at the spin in the article, but this is at least a start. Sad though, really that this 21 million is equivalent to just two days worth of money that Israel receives from the US. Hopefully, aid can now at least be brought to those innocents suffering behind Israels genocide wall, without those bringing the aid having to fear for their lives.
     
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    The Arabs get more money than Israel and Israel should not be paying a cent to the Jihad Flotilla whose members are on record calling for the deaths of Jews and wishing to become Shaheed jihadists.
     
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    Oh get real. Israel bent over backwards for massacring those civilians... with plenty of them with a bullet to the back of their head of their execution fashion. They paid that, and allowed all kinds of other demands including the apology = accept they are guilty, in order for Turkey to drop the murder charges.
     
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    Lies stacked on lies they were not civilians they were self confessed Shahadeen seaking martyrdom who attacked IDF soldiers with clubs, knives, axes, and machetes as they were enforcing a legal blockade.
     
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    Oh get real. You never bring a knife to a gun fight.
    /facepalm

    While the autopsy reports were rather damning.
     
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    We have the video these people were terrorists who attempted to murder IDF soldiers, that is not up for debate it is an unequivocal fact.
     
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    Fifth column for money is very common with Muslims , especially with Arabs.
    What's new ?
     
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    Really, which video is that?
    Do you mean this one, filmed using technology that predates Laurel & Hardy and skips time and is in fast forward at other times : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo
    It is even more laughable at the 50s mark where one actor points a plastic gun for a couple of seconds and does not move

    Or this one filmed using todays technology showing those on board firing onions. It's a shame that this video shows the helicopters soldiers boarding and is not the same helicopter that is shown in the laughable IDF video. Such a shame also for this video to have been smuggled out and released to the public after the release of the IDF video - lies exposed:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwsMJmvS0AY
     
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    That's a military grade night vision camera worth more than your computer, you are a smart one.

    Yes yes they were actors, chalk up yet another conspiracy theory with absolutely no evidence to support it to your ever growing list. We're done here, facts and evidence mean nothing to the conspiracy theorist.

    Which does not show what was happening on deck where they attempted to murder the IDF soldiers.
     
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    And yet the people on board were able to film in clear colour with exceptional detail, the soldiers boarding the plane, clearly showing that those boarding were not the same as those boarding in the IDF video. I thought Israel were supposed to have modern technology. You probably don't even know that there were several helicopter boardings on that boat that night. You are so gullible

    BTW, how is that molten steel investigation going?
     
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    Yes yes we get in fact you know what the first video was all CGI, they didn't even use live actors, that's the ticket.

    That was a military grade night vision camera the reason why it was clearer on board was because they had lights and didn't need a water proof night vision camera capable of operating in a combat zone. The evidence has been presented, that was a jihadist flotilla, Israel should apologize for nothing as every single one of those Muslim terrorist pigs killed was a blessing I only wish more of that Jihadist filth would have been killed and the boat sunk to the bottom, so take your laughable conspiracy theories and take them in the section they belong, we're done here.
     
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    lol

    I read that was BDS headlines :) one answer for those pathetic creatures - do it again :) see how "guilty" we feel.

    21 mil $ for 8 dead "shahids" ? , ill take that over a Bil $ and one dead for our side, besides Turkey will pay that when we sign the Gas deal.
     
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    Next time sink it.
     
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    Arabs do....

    Armed enough to kill but no fire guns to keep it "peacful" for the camera's :), just like Nasser in 1967, he brought the Tanks closed the channel and made the threats but didnt pull the move. did I say we are sorry ?
     
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    The Sultan of Turkey has finally figured out that he needs Israel way more than Israel needs him. He has got off his high horse and accepted the absolutely minimum token face saving gestures Israel had to offer in exchange for the normalization of the relations between two country.

    A non-apology apology (we regret the loss of life) and a compensation barely amounting to pocket change is all he got. Well, at any rate, after seveal years of Turkish people paying a heavy price for his stubbornness and stupidity, they, Israel and the region will finally benefit from his surrender.
     
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    [video=youtube;5ypUz1WYens]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ypUz1WYens[/video]
     
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    Attention for folks reading along. Note how peace activists are being labeled as terrorists. Understand that no weapons of any kind were on that boat WHICH IS WHY THEY WERE SUCH AN EASY TARGET FOR THE BRAVE IDF.

    Note as well that they were actually bringing food, water, school supplies, medicine and the like for those who Israel deems does not deserve these things in their own home.
     
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    Note that the supposed activists were in fact self confessed Shaheeds who wished to be martyred, that they attacked IDF troops enforcing a legal Naval blockade against a belligerent entity with deadly weapons, and please, also, take note that Israel offered the terrorist flotilla to transfer the goods into the disputed territories upon docking to an Israeli port for inspection.
     
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    Note as well that they are caught on tape doing all of the above:

    [video=youtube;b3L7OV414Kk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3L7OV414Kk[/video]

    [video=youtube;iTmF3njCZf8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTmF3njCZf8[/video]

    [video=youtube;gYjkLUcbJWo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo[/video]

    Next time sink the Jew hating Islamic terrorist filth.

    [video=youtube;eOcimzsviFA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOcimzsviFA[/video]
     
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    Their weapons were clearly shown in the movies, they dared to attack IDF because they were nice and careful when they climbed aboard, but being as they were they didnt think it throu, to sail into a war zone, bust an army blockade and attack soldeirs with knives and axes :) did I say we are sorry yet ?
     
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    Just found a copy of the other IDF videos filmed in the same week: Notice the similarities : poor quality, jumping scenes, skipped events plus dodgy same sound tracks
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myQpkIlv_lw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo
     
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    I'm afraid that $21 Million is in, reality, closer to 2 HOURS ".......worth of money that Israel costs the US

    Please note that US Aid to Egypt is dependent on Egypt's co-operation with Israel. It is, in reality, a bribe for Egypt to "play nicely" with the Israeli government & support its repression of historic Palestine's Native Residents.

    Lots of people have tried to figure how much Blood & Money is extracted from Americans by AIPAC and similar Zionist extortion Gangs that infest our country & drive the US to War with the 1.7 billion strong Islamic world


    Except for the multi $ Trillion estimates below,(*) calculating the ENTIRE cost of Israel to the US is impossible because of the ways in which it it hidden, put into separate accounts, doesn't allow for the commercial & military secrets stolen via AIPAC (a proven nest of spies). Loss of potential income due to AIPAC imposed Sanctions on Iran [1], [2], Zionist driven US Wars fought for Israel's secure Regional Hegemony[3], Cost to Americans in the innumerable Israeli/Mossad run "False Flag Ops" beginning in the 1950s with ''The Lavon Affair"

    But, most of all, how do you put a "cost" on the lost American lives &countless, young Veterans who lost arms, legs, eyes etc while fighting Israel's Wars & dying in Zionist False Flag Ops. & Betrayals[4],[5]


    I can't think of any educated, loyal, & informed American who would support sending another dime to the world's largest, threatening & Rogue Nuclear Power & most heavily subsidized Genocidal state.





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    (*)Estes: U.S. aid to Israel has surpassed trillion-plus dollars since 1973”
    http://staugustine.com/opinions/2010-07-24/us-aid-israel-has-surpassed-trillion-plus-dollars-1973


    (*)“The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion”
    http://www.wrmea.com/archives/june2003/0306020.html



    “Israel as financial parasite: the staggering cost to Americans”
    http://www.sott.net/article/260462-Israel-as-financial-parasite-the-staggering-cost-to-Americans

    EXCERPT “When Israel attempted to sink a U.S. Navy ship, the USS Liberty , in 1967, killing 34 Americans and injuring over 170, it still failed to put a dent in aid to Israel.[47] Indeed, aid quadrupled the following year.
    “
    EXCERPT “Yet Israel receives approximately 10% of America's foreign aid budget every year.[4] The US has, in fact, given more aid to Israel than it has to all the countries of sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America, and the Caribbean combined - which have a total population of over a billion people.[5] And foreign aid is just one component of the staggering cost of our alliance with Israel.

    But first, let's take a look at what our alliance with Israel truly costs.

    - Direct Foreign Aid

    Israelis receive 10,000 times more US foreign aid per capita than other people throughout the world, despite the fact that Israel is one of the world's more affluent nations

    - Additional Ad hoc support for Israel

    Israel has often used its privileged access to US military technology against both the US government and US corporate interests.

    - Lost jobs, trade, and standing

    Then there's the cost in lost jobs. "US policy and trade sanctions reduce US exports to the Middle East about $5 billion a year, costing 70,000 or so American jobs," Stauffer estimates. "Not requiring Israel to use its US aid to buy American goods, as is usual in foreign aid, costs another 125,000 jobs."[19]

    - Costs since Stauffer's study in 2003

    "Despite a tough economic climate and expected US budget cuts - including drastic cuts to the US military budget - US lawmakers will provide $236 million in fiscal 2012 for the Israeli development of three missile defense programs," reported Israeli newspaper Haaretz.[25]


    If Israel were using these funds for a good purpose, one could debate whether the price was worth it. But Israel uses most of the money to prolong a 45-year military occupation (which regularly involves gross violations of international law),[49] commit egregious human rights violations,[50] and destroy billions of dollars worth of Palestinian homes and infrastructure[51] (resulting in still more U.S. tax money being sent to Palestinians to rebuild demolished homes, hospitals, and schools), while building illegal Jewish-only settlements on Palestinian land.[52]

    It makes the prospect of peace ever more distant, creates dangerous hostility to the US, placing Americans in peril, and puts the US Congress in violation of the Arms Export Control Act,[53] all for the sake of campaign contributions.

    There is no good reason to keep throwing good money after bad in a failed, ill-founded policy. It's long past time for a fundamental rethinking of the American government's blank check to Israel.”CONTINUED





    { Since I have only cited excerpts from the following sources, I strongly advise those who are interested to read the source in its entirety; esp. # [4]


    [1] “EUROPEAN COMPANIES BEAT U.S. TO IRAN BUSINESS AFTER NUCLEAR DEAL REACHED”
    http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/aug/25/europe-us-iran-business-nuclear-deal-sanctions


    [2] “Iranian Economic Boom Will Be a Bust for US Businesses”
    "http://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/Iranian-Economic-Boom-Will-Be-a-Bust-for-US-Businesses-20150901-0012.html".
    EXCERPT "There’s a lot of money to be made doing business with Iran, a country of 78 million people—the second largest population in the Middle East, after Egypt. It has a highly educated population"CONTINUED


    [3] “Quietly lobbying Congress to approve the use of force in Iraq was one of AIPAC’s successes over the past year”
    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun; Jan. ’03


    [4] “How Israel Has Betrayed America”
    http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/06/06/how-israel-has-betrayed-america/

    EXCERPTS “Israel has spied on the United States at “an alarming level” and has done so “more than any other ally does”
    American mainstream media have time and again refused to debate in public.
    In fact, the case of Israel’s espionage on the U.S. is only one among different problems which have damaged American national interests due to the actions of Israel over the last few decades.

    - Evidence #1: Israel’s Espionage on the U.S.
    The first evidence for Israel’s betrayal of America has to do with Israel’s espionage on the U.S.

    The main targets are US industrial and technical secrets.”
    Israel sought “legislation” in the U.S. that “would make it easier for Israeli citizens
    Israelis visit the United States without visas but not demand full reciprocal treatment for all Americans wishing to travel to the Jewish state,”

    “Israel as the only such nation” with this exceptional privilege,

    …that there are no other countries taking advantage of our security relationship the way the Israelis are for espionage purposes, it is quite shocking’”.


    - Evidence #2: Israel’s Refusal to Help the U.S. on Budget Cuts at this Most Difficult Time

    The second evidence for Israel’s betrayal of America has to do with Israel’s refusal to help the U.S. on budget cuts at this most difficult time of financial crisis.

    In fact, no other country on Earth has year after year received so much more money from the U.S. than Israel, a country with only a few million people, has. In addition, Israel successfully sought the privilege of receiving “all of its annual foreign aid during the first month of each fiscal year, unlike other recipients

    This parasitic dependence has now reached a critical point when the U.S. has been suffering from the most serious protracted financial crisis in the last few years since the Great Depression


    - Evidence #3: Israel’s Colonial Settlement against the U.S. Interests
    The third evidence for Israel’s betrayal of America has to do with Israel’s colonial settlement against the U.S. wish, with damaging consequences to American national interests.

    Israel plays the “money card” by asking the U.S. for more money before it offers “concession” in regard to its colonial settlement in occupied territories, but each time, even after the money is given, Israel goes on to engage in colonial settlement in other parts of the occupied territories,

    -Evidence #4: Israel’s Pivot to China
    And the fourth evidence for Israel’s betrayal of America has to do with Israel’s pivot to China, the main rival to the U.S. dominance in the world.
    For decades, Israel has enjoyed the unlimited access to the most advanced U.S. military technology and weapons (often in the form of military aid, which means that Israel often did not pay for them), but Israel has passed U.S. military technology to China.

    In the long haul, Israel aims to establish a sort of “Jewish lobby” in China, so as to maintain some influence on the next superpower—just as it had done the same vis-a-vis America in the past few decades.

    Conclusion

    American public remains uninformed (or more correctly, misinformed) about it."CONTINUED




    [5] “CSI Forensics Proves Who Killed US Marines - Evidence shows Israel is Guilty!
    http://mail.blockyourid.com/~gbpprorg/judicial-inc/M.Ar.ine_csi_forensics_proves_who_killed.htm

    
By Ralph Forbes
    General Kelly
    EXCRPT “The Beirut bombing that killed 241 U.S. Marines was "the largest non-nuclear explosion in history," according to General Paul X. Kelley, past-Commandant of the Marine Corps.” CONTINUED
     
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    Yes, point taken. Awesome post as usual.
     
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    And look at the wonderful nighvision, you're so smart you think that night vision is the same thing as black and white, just brilliant. As has been conclusively proven this was a Jihadist flotilla and my only regret is that they didn't sink the ship along with all on board.

    - - - Updated - - -

    The Arabs get more.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Jihadist Flotilla exposed:

    [video=youtube;b3L7OV414Kk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3L7OV414Kk[/video]

    [video=youtube;iTmF3njCZf8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTmF3njCZf8[/video]

    [video=youtube;gYjkLUcbJWo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo[/video]

    Next time sink the Jew hating Islamic terrorist filth.

    [video=youtube;eOcimzsviFA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOcimzsviFA[/video]
     
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    Hey, dont sell yourself short ! you are both very good in what you do :) take it from an Israeli, and a few words from us: thank you for your greatest contribution of all for reminding everyone that the base hatred against Israel is racist, ignorant and mostly insane :)

    Take care now and if the EU calls to invite to to a special seminar - say "no".
     
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