People are lazy...stop complaining and open your own business

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  1. rickysdisciple

    rickysdisciple New Member

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    Wth are you talking about? Do you think I'm a liberal? I am fine with people running businesses, and we should make it as easy as possible, but if you hire an illegal, your ass is getting burned.
     
  2. erayp

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    You got a problem then. Obama wants them here, in fact he's bringing 10,000 here this month and more people cross over our borders illegally every day. Hillary wants to keep the borders open too. Only Trump wants to close borders.

    By the way, since you Dems want them here, how do you propose they get food to eat? Welfare?
     
  3. erayp

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    Think about it.... the left demands $15 an hour and then there is Obamacare. If an illegal will work for less money and employers won't have to pay for Obamacare, what do you expect?

    Democrats are more of a contributor to the problem. Democrat politicians see it as padding their voting base, to hell with you, they could care less. If they would close borders they wouldn't have this problem.
     
  4. rickysdisciple

    rickysdisciple New Member

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    I'm not a dem. I've never voted democrat and never will. That said, I don't like republicans either.

    If you think the republicans are innocent, ask yourself how all those illegals got over here while Bush was president.
     
  5. erayp

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    Ba ha ha ha... yep both are guilty but Democrats are worse. It's hard to believe that people don't understand something so basic as supply and demand and just repeat democrat / liberal talking points and then wonder why they can't find a decent paying job.

    Why do you think people "reject those voices" not wanting government to have too much power and be accountable to the people. Look at Hillary, she's corrupt, she is for big business, a crony capitalist and gets so many passes and people still defend her then wonder why nothing changes.
     
  6. rickysdisciple

    rickysdisciple New Member

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    I don't care how expensive labor here is. You don't get to import illegals and cheat. The workers here don't get to do that, and neither should businesses. Illegals need to get deported, and businesses who cheat need to get punished.
     
  7. rickysdisciple

    rickysdisciple New Member

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    So what? Yeah, democrats are horrible, and republicans are merely awful. Is that a badge of honor now? This is precisely why this country needs a nationalist party. Libs and conservatives have really bungled this whole operation.

    Hillary is scum, and I will not be voting for her.
     
  8. erayp

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    I'm not importing illegals lol. Ain't my doing. Government won't put a stop to it, democrats keep defending it (dare speak out against it and democrats call you racist). Oh well, if democrats would get their heads out of the sand and demand closed borders this wouldn't be so much of a problem. Instead they parrot liberal talking points in defense of it.
     
  9. erayp

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    Hillary is only concerned about power and to solidify the Democrat vote she'll import more immigrants and allow illegal immigration to continue eventually giving them the right to vote. Jobs, welfare, Obamacare all at the expense of the "American" people.

    Trump is speaking out against it, he believes that we need to provide for Americans first. The left calls him all kinds of names, non stop attacks because he wants to stop it. Hillary supporters are repeating talking points instead of understanding how it hurts them.
     
  10. erayp

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    LOL, so Democrats want to keep letting illegals come to the U.S. but they don't want them to work. In other words, the American people have to pay taxes to pay for their welfare and Obamacare. Don't you think it would be better if illegal immigration was stopped?
     
  11. rickysdisciple

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    No, if you hire an illegal, you are as guilty as the democrats. Actually, even more so.

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    Do you realize that we are both probably the most anti-immigration posters on this entire forum? You are preaching to the choir.
     
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    So I should just pay for their welfare right?
     
  13. erayp

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    Well I just don't understand where Democrats brains are (people defending Obama and will vote for Hillary who will make it even worse). It's like they listen to liberal media and parrot without thinking how it will effect them negatively. It's like they can't think deep enough to understand cause and effect.
     
  14. liberalminority

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    financial capital is a big part to starting businesses, but for these few no money down businesses they still require intellectual capital.

    if someone is working 60 hours a week at a minimum wage job just to meet basic expenses, where is the time left for them to invest in mastering a business skill?

    it takes years to master a skill that pays a living wage, all the while most people have bills to pay and are stuck at dead end minimum wage jobs working for greedy capitalists, who over work and under pay them.

    the fact is, most people don't have the luxury of time much less money that it takes to be an entrepreneur, unless their from rich privileged families who provide them with time to invest in intellectual capital, and/or money to invest in the financial capital requirements that can responsibly be risked.
     
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    Nope, don't pay a dime for their welfare. They shouldn't be getting welfare! THEY'RE ILLEGAL.

    Democrats are nuts! lol
     
  16. erayp

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    Well I certainly don't understand their thinking. They b*tch and moan about pay rates and jobs at the same time support a president and a candidate that increases or will increase the supply of labor. And at the same time demonize the very people who employ people who don't have what it takes to start and run a business.
     
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    Well, part of the reason they want illegal immigration is because they want to breed out whites and get more voters.
     
  18. erayp

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    That sounds like the same tactic as an Imam Sheikh Muhammad Ayed that tells Muslim migrants to 'breed children' with Europeans to 'conquer their countries' and vows: 'We will trample them underfoot, Allah willing'

    He also said that Europe was only welcoming refugees as a new source of labour.

    Muslim "refugee" in Germany: Main Goal is to Islamize Europeans. The individual says that he is willing to “sell” his country and even his own parents in order to reach “paradise” by converting Europeans to Islam who in turn will then “Islamize others.”
    http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/28592/1/


    [video=youtube_share;5e8PCKVVxcE]http://youtu.be/5e8PCKVVxcE[/video]
     
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    Well, he wasn't lying about anything, though he needs to be shot like a dog.
     
  20. AmericanNationalist

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    If only one could talk with these people, as we do in the civilized west without threat of getting blown up:

    "Throughout Europe, all the hearts are infused with hatred toward Muslims."
    Me: That's what happens you run smack an airplane into a building, killing 3,000 of our citizens. That's what happens when you maniacs shoot innocent
    women, children and men on our American streets. When you take the lives of so many of our brothers and sisters, without regard. How can you expect us NOT to hate you?

    Me: Here's the thing, if you have a military grievance with our country, then so be it. That's what war is. But you should ALWAYS target military targets. You complain about our drones, but we've always had military targets. Collateral damage is unavoidable, you use it to an art of warfare! You strap bombs onto children, you take hostages and all of it in violation of the Geneva Convention.

    We are humane, and you are beasts. You want peace? We've tried to give you peace. And the only way to restore peace and sovereignty is if you stop being barbaric animals over your religion. We believe we can co-exist without believing in the same rhetorical "gods". But we can't co-exist without believing in the same morale human values.
     
  21. Dware

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    A good chunk of people living in America are useless losers who won't even work for someone else much less themselves, im.not worried about people who won't help themselves, they can starve to death for all I care
     
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    There is one, and only one, good reason to go into business for yourself, and that is to make more money than you can otherwise.

    If you cannot do that you should work for someone else. If you go into business for ANY reason other than seeing an opportunity to make more money that way than any other you will fail. You should, you must and you will. That is the warp and weft of capitalism, Adam Smith's Invisible Hand winnowing wheat from chaff.

    Anybody who thinks they will be more independent or work less as a business owner is in a fool's paradise. If you are in a business EVERYBODY is your boss and you have nothing to keep circumstances from working you to death. Money is the ONLY reason you should ever even consider it
     
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    Illegals should not get jobs, welfare, nor be able to cross the border.
     
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    How many kids have you had?
     
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    PolakPotrafi Banned

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    Some people actually have disabilities, who can't work, you don't care if they starve to death either?
     

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