People are lazy...stop complaining and open your own business

I'm 3, unmarried, and am not in a financial position to have kids. This is one of the reasons we are being bred out. We take these things into account before spreading our seed around, unlike many others who just rely on welfare.

The conservatives only care about fattening their own pocket books, and they will do it at anyone's expense. This is why they talk tough about immigration, but then they support hiring illegals. It's unbelievable how inconsistent this position is, but they do it anyway because their goal is to make money--that is all. They are almost as destructive and disloyal as the leftists are.

If there were ever any nationalist revival, the liberals would have to be dealt with first, but the conservatives would be right after.

 

Yes, as I pointed out before, most in America both mainline Liberals, and mainline Conservatives don't care about society, they mostly care about themselves.

While mainline Conservatives do seem to be slightly more anti-minority, it seems to be largely about minority welfare abuse, rather than about truly caring about society as a collective.

While, I don't like chronic able bodied welfare abusers myself, I think the government should provide more for their way.

However, it's difficult to make it out there some times, the majority of Americans will need welfare at some point in their lives, therefor it's a beneficial system for the masses.

I support the Fascist approach here, use public works programs to hire more people, keep them busy, and help them be productive citizens, and consumers.

 

We completely agree on this. I think fascism is the best system out there, but we aren't going to convince anyone here.

Only in a stupid country like ours are there millions of able-bodied people sitting around doing nothing because "the market" deems them a waste. The dumbest thing about this is that those people still require resources, so by insisting that they have to find jobs in the private market, we end up just having a bunch of people waste away. It's a completely irrational policy, but we do it anyway because we have a stupid country.

There is always work that can be done--always.

 

Oh stop hiding behind the disabled. People are fine helping people with disability.

And by the way, being a fat lazy slob is not a disability, it's wanting a free ride at someone else's expense.

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Let me guess, if you were offered more money you'd turn it down.

 

I've never needed welfare. When it got tough I pounded the pavement. I was also smart enough to save for rainy days. That's part of the problem. When times are good people think the good times will last forever. By the way, government taking money from someone else to provide the help only government.

- Abled bodied people on welfare are greedy, they take money without offering anything in return.
- They want to live like the middle class not realizing that most of the middle class live on borrowed money.

- Government is greedy, they tug on the left's heart strings to gain support for funneling more money from the people to them.

 

People are struggling to take care of their own. A common government excuse is we need to raise taxes because we don't have enough money. Well what in the hell makes government think "the people" have enough money to make their own budget?

 

I laughed at people who said... "they don't care". No one cares more about you and your family more than you do. When you learn that, then you'll be one step closer to growing up.

If you made bad decision and you're laying in your bed, stop expecting other people to bail you out. Stop expecting other people to cary your weight. Life's tough for everyone, get used to it. You aren't promised a life of luxury because you exist, if you want a life of luxury, you got to do what it takes to earn it.

 

In one sentence you laud fascism...and then in another you call the rest of the country who disagree with that "stupid".

This is why I rarely read through your inane posts

 

Abled bodies people on welfare are NOT greedy. That's an insane statement. If you think welfare is that great YOU try it for a while.

For the most part people on welfare are on it because of a system that doesn't provide the jobs, job training, and education it takes to NOT be on welfare.

And those like you who denigrate them have been lucky enough to have benefited from that system (and lucky in many other ways) so that they don't need to be on welfare (which by the way has a LIFETIME cap of 5 years and requires you to have a job in most cases)

 

You never answered my question Lesh. Do you own a job or do you own a business?

 

LOL, now did I say it's great? I wanted better so I got off my duff and worked for it. All you give is excuses. I said that people on welfare want the middle class lifestyle, they want it handed to them. But they ignore that the middle class is living like that because they are in debt. Ever here the saying..."I owe, I owe so off to work I go".

If they want better than government can provide then do something about it. No matter what any politician tells you, government will not, can not legislate their prosperity.

 

I'm not a glaring hypocrite, I can tell you that much. I'm not going to rail against illegal immigration and then, behind the scenes, hire illegals.

It's no wonder the liberals have criticized conservatives on this issue. I had no idea that the conservative position was to protect businesses who want to cheat.

This is shameful--the very definition of hypocrisy.

Yeah, I'll never be a conservative. If you guys had your way, this country would look like a hellhole full of misery.

 

If working my ass off so I could have a better life is lucky, then I guess I'm lucky lol.

5 Year cap? I know someone who lost his sight and he's on welfare and it's been a hell of a lot longer than 5 years. I have no problem with it either but if his wife works he loses so much in government benefits she can't possibly work enough to make up for what they lose, in other words, it doesn't pay them to work..... people get trapped in the system.

 

Welcome to reality

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Lost his site?

That's not welfare, that's disability.

WTF is wrong with you?

Tell ya what...if he has it s good...take your fingers and dig out both your eyes...then tell us how great life is.

My Gawd...

 

You think "Nazi Germany" when you hear fascism, but I think of something different. I think of a strong, probably one-party, society that provides opportunities for its citizens and advocates for their interests globally. It's liberalism without the patronage and SJW nonsense, along with good cultural values and efficient practices.

You guys come up with stupid stuff like the ACA, which is a monstrous hybrid that's still total garbage relative to what other developed countries have, you do nothing to fix higher education, and you do nothing to stop the cronyism in government. In fact, you encourage it just like the republicans.

 

LOL, who's doing hiring illegal immigrants, I'm not. Why do you think big business support Democrats? They want cheap labor.

You'd think people would take a look at the hood, an example of government providing for the people. A hellhole.

 

No, they get welfare. I know for a fact! It's amazing how much money they get on their EBT card every month. Me and you would have to work (you fill in how many hours you would have to work for that amount of money).

 

LOL, yep, government providing the good life lol <sarcasm>

 

There are organizations all over the country to help with that. SCORE, SBDC, and countless local groups that train people to start a business. Here in the Bay Area, aside from the standard ones, we have the Renaissance Center which primarily helps low-income women start businesses. Kiva is available to help people get funding for the basics with no-interest, short term loans.

 

Without apology, I am not a nationalist. I believe in enterprise, not cronyism. If we are going to toss around the word "treason" like you people love to do, it is you that is being treasonous by going against everything the Founders put in place, and demanding fascist policies be put in place along with a burdensome government that criminalizes everything.

I'm not a conservative. It's funny how unimaginative, murderous, knuckle-dragging fascists only have the conservative/liberal, us vs. them mentality. It'll be the ruin of this country if they get too much power.

 

I work 60 hours a week in my business and I still find time to work on my skills. The internet is a vast storehouse of amazing information, much of it free or low cost. In every county and most chambers there are business startup programs hosted by the SBDC that make it easy for people who work in low-wage jobs to get something started. I've met those people, and they have all sorts of options. It's just that no one pays attention. They'd rather be victims.

Exactly, they'd be better off in a glorious socialist state like Venezuela or North Korea where greed is outlawed and the politicians love the people.

Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). I know very few people who meet that criteria and literally thousands of people from the other side of the equation who are running businesses. Many of those "greedy capitalists" are providing all sorts of volunteer services to help poor people start businesses. It's the practitioners of victimology who cover their ears and say "Stick It To the Man!" Such people would be worthless in any economy, including a socialist one. Why would a worker-owned cooperative want a perpetually whiney victim who complains all the time and never does his share of the work?

 

Ghettos wouldn't exist in a properly administered, nationalist society. Trust me, they would have something to do and a sense of purpose.

I'm sure there are, and that's a great thing, but it still doesn't address the fact that not everyone can have a business--it's not even possible. Sure, encourage more people to be self-employed, but let's not pretend that this is a solution.

I don't like cronyism either, but it is a natural consequence of the concentration of capital. It has never not been that way. Only a vigilant, well-structured government as removed from money as possible can ever hope to make good decisions for the country. Allowing the wealthy to control our government has to be shut down immediately. I believe in enterprise as well, but with a purpose, not this slavery to the machine that sees no value in tradition, culture, or loyalty--"the market" doesn't preserve or encourage those things. Selling the country out to China and refusing to enforce immigration controls indicate a total lack of loyalty on the part of the die-hard capitalists (the people controlling our main parties). There is more to human life than the laws of supply and demand, believe it or not.

I don't believe in a burdensome government. With the current levels of taxation, we could achieve everything I'd like to achieve. We could do far more than either the libs or cons, with far less. The salvation of this country lies in a nationalist revival, but I doubt that will happen. The insane, ideological nut-jobs who currently call themselves liberals and conservatives have done a fine job getting entrenched into the public mind. I don't expect this country to do anything halfway intelligent anytime soon.

 

LOL, I went to a SCORE meeting once (it was shortly after I started my business and found it was so basic it was a waste of time. I remember that they do introduce you to a banker but they have no interest in loaning money, I couldn't blame them. I got the feeling that the only reason he came is because he was paid.

 

Government only does just enough to prevent an uprising. They don't want to view them as the problem so they found someone else to blame instead of.

Cronyism will exist as long as the people are diverted away from the real problem.... government and big business quid pro quo, as soon as a politician gets into office instead of working for the people they work hand in hand with "big" business with the promise of big contributions for their next campaign. Hillary is the epitome of cronyism but because people vote party they'll vote for more of the same.

 

I've heard of this graph. Unfortunately, not enough people get a grip on the cash flow until they have participated in the rat race for 40-50 years, then come to the realization at a feeble age.

I want to add I think one needs to look at it as, "Do you want to be someone's b*tch by having a job?" or "Do you want to be the alaphamale, own the job, and be the investor, and not be the bottomfeeder?" I think it also matters what type of business one wants to start, that will reward them true financial independence. Businesses with a lower return on investment would probably be a Chinese Restaurant, or Bakery. I mean, how is one supposed to differ from Wong-Dong's Chinese Restaurant, or Fluffy-Foo's Bakery? Fact is, they can't. Chinese is good, fat free muffins are good, but the return on investment in the long term will be low. Now, there might be room for growth when we think about a record label, a online magazine, or e-zine, or if you want to go down the old, wise path of Real Estate.

All the possibility for startup in social media has been taken, unfortunately, that's not to say someone could make it big in the technology business cluster, I mean, after all, Mark Zuckerberg took MySpace, gussied it up, and made billions off Facebook. Sometimes, you don't have to necessarily reinvent the wheel, but polish that wheel.