Trump need to sincerely apologize to win

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  1. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The way I look at it, it is the Republicans problem. Almost any other of those 17 could have beaten Clinton. Oh well.
     
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    I look forward to Rupert's Fox TV confection, West Wingnut, where the crass pitchman can continue to depict a zany POTUS with madcap hijinks aplenty - such as an episode of one of Trump's trophy wives as a First Lady trying to buy slaves to work Michelle's old garden.

    The weekly opening of Hail to the Chief played by Ted Nugent off-key on a kazoo and a shot of the flashing neon "Trump White House" signage on the roof would be a signal to all Americans that the pipe dream will never die.

    Ubiquitous hilarious cameos by Sarah Palin, naturally.
     
  3. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    While Hillary is working hard to gain the trust of American voters, Trump is alienating the GOP, the Hispanics, women, NRA, Unions. African-Americans, Native Americans, Christians, Muslims, Commerce Association, students, Jews, etc.
     
  4. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hillary will win by default. But that don't mean she is deserving, she isn't . Only a fool would put Hillary in charge of this country, perhaps a worst fool would put Trump in charge. Doesn't really matter between them two. Both would be horrible. So you want us to choose between which horrible, not me. I want someone who will be good for this country and neither Trump nor Clinton will be. You may settle for least horrible, not me. I have standards.
     
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    Many chronic Hillary haters recognize that Trump is a potential major disaster. Her presidency promises stability and continuity, and, if she can approximate Obama's public approval in recent months, she and the nation will be fine.

    Personal animus must defer to pragmatic, patriotic considerations. Her support is not a cult of personality. 61% of Americans surveyed concur that she is qualified for the job; 64% concur that Trump is not.

    Of course, alienated malcontents, wee wee'd up by their ideological media entertainers, will continue to be pissy, but they are in decline, and the GOP will fumigate after November, and take whatever steps are required to banish Trumpery and make their Party respectable again. The show business celebrity was able to exploit the GOP's extant dysfunction, but he did not create it.


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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't hate Hillary, I thought she was fine as first lady. As for senator, that was totally up to the people of New York. If they liked her, that was good enough for me. I just don't think she should be president, neither do I think Trump would. That decision is out of my hands. But I will vote my convictions.

    It never made any sense to me to vote for the lesser of two evils. Whomever wins is still evil. That is what is being asked this time around. I don't care what happens to the two major parties. Both should end up on the scrap heap of history for the candidates they gave us this time around. RCP shows 56% of all Americans have a negative view of Hillary, Trump is even worst at 61%.

    When it comes down to never will vote for, 48% of All Americans say never vote for Trump, 45% say they would never vote for Hillary. Add the probably not vote for you have 58% no on Trump and 55% no on Hillary. Question 3

    https://www.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us06292016_Utwkv93x.pdf

    Too bad Quinnipiac didn't include the question would never vote for both of them. I'm sure I am not alone in that. But look at the independents, 47% never for Trump with another 11% probably not for Trump. 49% of independents say they would never vote for Clinton, 12% probably not. 48% of independent are less enthusiastic about voting this year, the dislike of both candidates are the reason why. They do not want to choose between them. 58% of Independents have a negative view Trump while 65% view Hillary negative.

    Questions 6 and 7.

    Then would Trump be a good president, 58% of Americans say no, would Hillary be a good president 53% say no.

    That is a majority of Americans think neither would make a good president, same as me. Yet this is what the two major parties came up with. We need to send both parties to the dump. Apparently neither party cares one iota what America thinks, wants or wishes for. Only what they want.
     
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    The GOP is afraid of their own shadow. Had McCain simply kept reading excerpts from obamas own words in his books, talking about his radical American hating friends, pounding him on his drug abuse, pushing the fact that he was raised muslim by a step father, that his biological father was muslim and his mother was a communist, he would have shown the American people who Obama REALLY was. People like my lifelong in laws would have seen him as he really was and would have stayed home or voted for McCain.
    Trump fights like a democrat. I like that.
     
  8. WanRen

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    Trump is neither a Democrat or Republican he is a racial-socialist-liberal.
    McCain lost because he had a lousy VP if McCain could make such a horrible mistake in choosing his VP he would have been a lousy President worse than Obama.
     
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    Trump is telling the RP/DP political class to sit on it and revolve. That is all it took for him to beat the stuffing out of a platoon of RP opponents. He did it on a dime and a few tweets. The American voting public has been voting to crush the government class for 3 election cycles.

    They love it when Trump kicks the crooked sanctimonious scum in the crotch. He should buy some steel toe Roebuck s-kickers and carry on through November.
     
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    The vote for Trump will be against the entrenched, very corrupt political class. Trump has made himself into a useful weapon for the voters use against Washington. That is what Trump supporters want from Trump.
     
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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Trump is definitely not the answer to crush the elites, the establishment, the lobbyist, the Wall Street or the government. Trump is the problem he is part of the problem.
     
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    Trump has always been an outsider - even in NYC. He has been very hostile to the political class on many occasions, and was in near constant warfare with several corrupt NYC governments. Trump even opposed both Iraq wars - did anyone in the bipartisan political class do that?.

    Trump is as alienated from the establishment as Lenin would be if he were available. In fact, I suspect the now very united DP/RP political class would prefer Lenin to Trump right now. ;-)
     
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    Trump has little to apologize for. The *******s just can't handle the real, direct truth!
     
  14. WanRen

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    Trump has never been an outsider he give money to both the RP and DP but vert little to charity. Trump is a flip flapper he will support and later opposed and later again support anything just like the Iraq war.
    If Trump is comparable to lenin then the more reason why Americans and the world should be concern. Hitler also hate the establishment. That was why both Hitler and Stalin's core followers were radical and extremist haters.

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    Americans already handle and accepted the truth the truth that Trump is who he is thanks to Lewandowski, Americans and the world now know Trump is a bigot.
     
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    LOL! If Trump was not an outsider the RP/DP would not be frothing at the mouth to destroy him. The voting public has clearly noticed the obvious. ;-)
     
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    The American public notice Trump is not an outsider but a radical he wants to turn America into a permanent controlled nation by one insider only, him.
     
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    ThenI assume that everyone who supported Obama's expansion of the power of the executive branch is now very sorry. Right?
     
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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Obama worked hard bipartisanship, he compromise with the hostile GOP controlled Congress to no avail. Trump dose not need the GOP, the Democrat, Liberals, Tea party he just need himself dictate and demand "Believe me they'll obey me"
     
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    Obama has ruled largely through executive orders. Did you - do you support that?
     
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    Obama executive actions was the last resort to get America moving against the GOP who from day one have declared war on the Executive Office and on America to block and to make sure the President of the USA fail in performing his solemn duty as president of the USA to serve the people.
    Yes, I support Obama's executive actions over the GOP war against the USA and Americans.
    And now the GOP have another chance to demonstrate their true patriotism to the USA not to party or to individuals but to the well being of the nation by renouncing Trump and nominate a true Republican candidate to run as President of the USA.
     
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    Not only does Trump refused to apologize for his bigotry he is praising dictators and tyrants and espousing that under his leadership he will be like them.
     
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    LOL! The RP is not an opposition party. Surely you know that.

    But now that you have embraced executive action be prepared to face the consequences as soon as an antiestablishment radical enters the WH.
     
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    No the RP is not an opposition party they are the obstructionist and destructive party.
    Trump is no outsider he is a tyrant and dictator and he will destroy the very fabric of the USA that is why many GOP are against him. That is why Trump is sounding of as to how he like tyrant's govern their countries.
    Don't be like the Brexit who are now regretting their vote to leave EU.
     
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    Trump and his surrogates instead of thanking the media for bringing it up to his attention that the star of David on Hillary tweeted by Trump was extracted from a white supremacist antisemitism webpage, Trump instead blame the media for making him aware instead of renouncing the white supremacist or for who ever his staff that had him posted it.

    Hillary and Star of David.jpg
     
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