How does the Bible NOT condemn homosexuality?

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Maccabee, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    Not true, if God did not tolerate Sin, fire would rain down and destroy everyone.

    John 3:16

    "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Any of the original Hebrew bible texts for the OT.
     
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    Of course there was no insult intended. I had a feeling that any homophobe would indeed try and purport it to be taken as one. If I was Maccabee I would have just left it alone. But...
     
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    Amen!! What some project as 'religion', is rightly repulsive to human beings.
     
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    So you cite 'everyone' while not actually referencing anyone.

    That is not evidence- that is rationalization.

    You have presented your opinion- a clearly biased opinion- I presented another opinion with a bias.

    Meanwhile- there isn't a single reference in the Old Testament to female with female sex- let alone a condemnation of it.

    And the only 'reference' in the New Testament to female with female sex is presumed- and not explicit.
     
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    You of course will not be voting for Donald Trump then.

    Because you do not want to encourage- or enable- or condone his sin.
     
  7. Maccabee

    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    This thread was made in response to someone saying that the Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality. So I'm curious as to their reasoning.
     
  8. Maccabee

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    No I'm not.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abomination_(Bible)

    Please address this.
     
  9. Maccabee

    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    No I'm not. "These six things does The Lord hat yay seven are an abomination... A proud look".
    Proverbs 6:16 and 17 in part.
     
  10. Maccabee

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    I didn't take it as an insult but I realize that a lot of people who say it are conveying it as such. If you called me a Jew (and I am one) I wouldn't take as one but I can see that you meant it as an insult.
     
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    Leviticus 18:22

    "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind: it is abomination" as for the second part who said it was worse than all other sins? Get this through your head. This is a thread in a homosexuality sub-forum. What do you except for this thread to talk about, puppy dogs and cupcakes?
     
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    Pretty sure he didn't.




     
  13. Maccabee

    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    No my sins aren't less than any other person's. are you admitting homosexuality is a sin? I seek God for forgiveness when I sin and try to not do it. In the mean time God wants us to help each other with our sins.

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    Where in the Bible did you get that?

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    Ok then.
     
  14. Maccabee

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    Which would be? There are two main text the masuaritic (forgive the spelling) and the ones used by wescott and Hort.
     
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    Leviticus 19:19

    "You must keep my statutes. You must not allow two different kinds of your animals to breed, you must not sow your field with two different kinds of seed, and you must not wear a garment made of two different kinds of fabric."



    If it's not any more significant than wearing polyester or planting your tomatoes too close to carrots... not sure why it's worth talking about.​
     
  16. Johnny-C

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    Maybe it just needs to go into the 'religion' forum.
     
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    I didn't say he did.
     
  18. Polydectes

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    You are insulted by what you are?

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    Yes you are. The words don't mean the same thing.
     
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    If you are interested in the reason homosexuality isn't considered a sin you might consult with Christian churches which don't consider homosexuality a sin.

    Might I suggest:
    Bennett Sims, Bishop Emeritus of the Episcopal Diocese of Atlanta

    http://www.aislingmagazine.com/aislingmagazine/articles/TAM25/SayYes.html

    Yes, homosexuality is a natural state of man, long accepted by mainstream Christian denominations such as Catholicism.

    Yes, marriage is a move toward monogamy and fidelity - solid values shared with Christianity.
     
  21. dairyair

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    Get this through your head. I don't care. I will call out hypocrisy anytime one is doing it.
    If you don't like it, don't start or post stupid stuff in public forums.

    Which is the correct translation?

    Obviously, it is important for a student of the Bible to resolve exactly what behavior is forbidden: is it:

    bullet All homosexual behavior, by either men or women, or

    bullet Same gender sexual behavior, by either men or women who are heterosexual, or

    bullet All sexual behavior between two men, or

    bullet All sexual behavior between two men who are hetersoexual, or

    bullet Only anal sex between two men, or

    bullet Only anal sex in a Pagan temple ritual, or

    bullet Sexual activity between two men in a woman's bed?
    bullet etc.
    Also, is the behavior forbidden to ancient Israelites, or modern-day Jews, or all males regardless of their religion, or all males and females, or some combination of the preceding.

    Unfortunately, there is no consensus on the meaning of this verse. Many people tend to select that interpretation that most closely reinforces their initial biases about the Bible and homosexual behavior.
    http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibh5.htm

    As others have told you. There is no clear cut meaning to the verse. Everyone interjects their own biases into it. And those who interject the loudest, will be called out for the nastiness they want to call out.
    Don't dish if you can't take.
     
  22. dairyair

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    And what makes you think a gay person doesn't, who is a christian? And for non christians, so what. They can't sin.

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    Where ever it speaks about hypocrisy.
    Where'd you get you're suppose to butt into everyone elses lives? Especially if they aren't seeking your guidance.
    Take that plank out of your eye......
     
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    You once again show your ignorance of Christianity. I do not need to understand a persons relationship with Jesus in order to point out sin which is clearly identified in the Bible. In fact, Christians have an obligation to point out errors in fellow Christians.

    Go read the Bible, then get back.
     
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  25. tkolter

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    Oddly LESBIANISM is not condemned in the Bible up until Paul, and he being a preacher akin to say a Televangelist today doesn't give him any special standing Jesus never said a thing and neither did any Apostle who was taught by Jesus supposedly but a convert preacher who never was part of Jesus retinue did and you listen to him?

    I for one think Christians if they decide to use Leviticus need to apply all of it including converting to the Jewish faith since Jesus led a Jewish sect so was a Jewish religious leader.
     

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