How does the Bible NOT condemn homosexuality?

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  1. SFJEFF

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    The Old Testament doesn't even mention any kind of female to female homosexuality.

    What the Bible does condemn in the Old Testament is male to male sex- and any other form of sex outside of marriage.

    The New Testament condemns adultery- and mentions male to male sex as an example of what happens to people who refuse to be Christians- along with disobeying their parents.

    According to the Bible- Ronald Reagan, Donald Trump and Newt Gingrich were/are as much sinners as any two gay men who marry.
     
  2. Battle3

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    You are so far off base its ridiculous. You cite a wildly biased gay church and think that's all you need to overturn the actual beliefs of Jews and Christians over 1,000's of years, plus all the understanding of the 1st Century teachers until today. That's the evidence behind my position. If you want to replace that belief with something complete contrary to it, you must have tremendously weighty evidence and a rock solid argument, and you have neither.
     
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    The topic of this thread is homosexuality, not adultery. If you want to address adultery (yet again) then start another adultery thread.

    As I have written many, many times, Christianity applies to Christians, and unlike the LGBTs I am not trying to force my beliefs on the world. If you want to be gay, then be gay, its your choice, but you are still defying God and committing a sin.

    Christians work on their sins, and as God requires Christians are not tolerant of sin in other people. So as I just wrote, if you want to be gay, then be gay, its your choice, but you are still defying God and committing a sin - and I will not encourage or enable or condone your sin.
     
  4. Polydectes

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    That begs the question.

    Incorrect, it was implanted in recent years.

    As you see it? No you're deluded if i could change type reality you wouldn't be.
     
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    Deuteronomy 13:7, 28:49, 28:64, 33:17. Job 2:8, 19:4, 22:27, 33:13, 48:10, 59:13, 61:2, 65:5, 72:8.
     
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    You can believe whatever you want to believe, but the truth is unaffected, and you are still committing a sin and by promoting sin you are exaggerating your sin.
     
  7. Maccabee

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    So is "gay" and "cool" yet both have changed meanings over the years.

    And that's your major flaw. Of course God loves everyone but that's not what the passage is saying. It's not saying God hates homosexuals its saying that God hates homosexuality. It didn't said "they are an abomination" it said "IT is an abomination".


    You're the one who decided that you needed to counter my statement.



    There's no leap. If God hates something then its something to avoid. Plus as my wiki link shows abomination does mean sin. Funny you'd never addressed it.

    The truth is that it is a sin and the fact the Bible never mentions the word proves my point that it doesn't have to be labeled as a sin to be considered as such. All one needs to look for is "thou shalt not" and "these things The Lord hates".


    I did.

    Not really.

    You never destinguished why bestiality is unnatural and why homosexuality is. You started it, now finish it.

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    Not the proper thread.
     
  8. Maccabee

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    Then by all means provide the evidence.

    Ok.
    I could say the same for incest and bestiality.

    Ok?

    Have it your way. Communist Russia and North Korea were/are run by secular laws.

    Ok.

    And that's what we're here to discuss.

    I'm saying that for those who already believe the Bible and follow it this question is poised to them. You can chime in too if you want.
     
  9. Maccabee

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    Who's forcing? You came to my thread to challenge OP.

    I thought you run by facts, not insults.

    So you're out for converts.

    Thank you for the nice fact based comments. It's really appreciated.

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    The Bible is not limited to the Ten Commandments you know.

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    I don't.
     
  10. Maccabee

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    I thought we shouldn't insult homosexuals. So now you'll insult people against homosexuality by calling me a closet homosexual?

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    Which ancient texts are you reffering to?
     
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    No. By all means... understand and accept, that not everyone will have even the same "Christian" faith as you (some, even no religious faith at all); and still, you do not rule their hearts, minds or lives by proxy or otherwise... and they cannot control you either.

    There is 'reality', for YOU and everyone else.

    Otherwise, you have the option of spending way too much of your life arguing 'belief' and 'religion'... instead of simply living and loving others in the best possible ways.
     
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    Homosexuality isn't a sin. You can believe whatever you want.

    But it isn't a sin and i don't promote it. I promote defiance of you demigods.
     
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    I don't care. In koine greek the original language of the bible sin was "ἁμαρτία" abomination was "βδέλυγμα"

    ἁμαρτία means a failing

    βδέλυγμα means a detestable thing.

    That is in the original language it was written in, they mean two different things. They never ment the same thing.

    You're wrong.
     
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    Yes, i posted the original language if the bible. The challenge was met, what i provided exceeded it. It's over. You're finished.
     
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    It is only an insult if you detest homosexuals.

    Case and point, if someone suggested i was Jewish, or called me a Jew, I wouldn't be insulted because i don't think being Jewish is something to be hated.

    You made a Freudian slip.
     
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    I wanted you to catch this.

    He thinks it's an insult for somebody to suggest he is homosexual.

    It's telling, don't you think?

    Would you be insulted if somebody suggested you were tall, or black?
     
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    I don't think he's interested in loving others.

    People who have to assert their beliefs as the facts often have little or no belief in it.

    I believe things that aren't proven, they don't Have to be fact for me to believe them. I think this is indicative of the shifting sands which some people build upon.
     
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    Why are christians not tolerant of others sins? Jesus was tolerant. He knew man has to sin.
    You defy God everyday. You sin. No way not to.
    So be like Jesus, be tolerant. Let the sinner and Jesus/God deal with each sinner in their own way.

    You are trying to force you beliefs on the world. Else you would not be here daily crying about gay people.

    Stop being so hypocritical. Jesus and God are not tolerant of hypocrites.
     
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    And you do it everyday on this very forum.
    Worse actually, see hypocrite and how God and Jesus view them.
     
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    You promote hypocrisy. Stop being so self righteous. Stop sinning Go ahead, do it.

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    Show the exact words, any bible. God hates homosexuality. And prove it is worse than all other sins.
     
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    But you sin. Everyday. Are your sins less than then next person? You've already admitted all sins are equal. So why have you never stopped sinning?
    Hypocrites complain about other sins and yet still sin everyday.

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    I thought one sinners shouldn't call out other sinners. Yet, here is a thread doing that very thing.
     
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    Home schooled people never know anything different than their mom.
     
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    Jesus was NOT tolerant of sin. Jesus was tolerant of sinners, never of sin. Jesus always allows sinners to repent. Jesus was never tolerant of sin.

    Your lack of understanding of the most basic concepts of Christianity is astounding.
     
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    Not my lack of understanding. But yours. You have no idea of one's relationship with Jesus.

    You try to act like you are Jesus and want to be the judge. You are a dangerous supposed christian. The worst in Jesus' eyes.

    He dislike hypocrites far worse than any thing others call a sin. And he hated false teachings, like you spew.

    And he disliked adulterers as well. How many marriages have you had?
     
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