What jobs do Americans want brought back?

I wouldn't worry about it. She's just trying to antagonise you.

 

In this country we have a thing with Korean (some illegal) tilers and painters. They're almost always excellent. There are some who are rubbish, of course, but then there are locals who are rubbish also.

 

Duh! They find jobs by standing out in front of hardware stores and working for a few bucks less without paying or reporting income.

However my college senior son just started his own srco and business with a friend, installing ng fences and they are making a bunch. The neighbors see their work next door and hire them. They work long hours, do a good job and can speak English an u n pocito Spanish. They have worK coming out their ears.

 

What jobs do we need back?

If we can make American manufacturing viable then hundreds of thousand of jobs will be created.

Not just the guy standing on the assembly line, but the warehouse crew that packs and ships the product, the office staff that supports the facility, the 3rd party distributors and their staff that sell the product, the end user and their staff that uses it, the HR firm that hires them all, the business that will spring up in a small town because a large anchor corporation is thriving, and so on.

How do illegals find jobs?

Because of an entire failing system that enables the illegal infestation.

From the laughable border security that lets them in, to the lawless government that makes sure they stay, to the landlords that give them shelter, to the banks and money markets that hold and move their money, to the transportation they use, to the stores that sell them food, to the telecom industries that give them internet/phones, all the way down to the scumbag employers that hire them.

We need a massive change in our laws that federally criminalizes any act which gives anything to an illegal from jobs, to housing, to food, to internet, to banking, to this, to that. Any person or organization that gives aid or advocates a pro-invasion agenda should be prosecuted convicted and have their assets sized to help pay for the cost of removing the infestation. We need to make life in America for illegals so impossible and hostile that they leave and never come back.

 

These places still exist. I live in a hipster area where there are many of these 'artisan' type retail stores. I avoid them like the plague. In my own village, which is 5 minutes walk from my house, I've not even been into half the shops there. The same 'beautiful little cotton dress' which can be had at Kmart for $15, sells locally for $150. THAT'S why those businesses have died. The only reason there are still some around (as per my neighbourhood) is that they're in moneyed areas. There are enough rich folk wanting to be parted from their money to keep them ticking over.

Those of us who are philosophically opposed to pandering to these overpriced stores, call them 'vanity enterprises'. They're more or less just expensive hobbies for well heeled, bored women. Their husbands buy them the building, and they set up some sort of concern entirely after their own interests - with nil consumer research or regard for what customers want. They imagine that because they personally love $80 stinky candles with multiple wicks, everyone else will want one too. They tell themselves that 'their kind of customer' is discerning, and only interested in quality. There is no such creature left in the world. They died out in the 1980's. The richest of us will buy at Walmart when it suits us.

 

I think you guys are helping Amy write a paper on economics. LOL !

 

The outlet was nothing like that. It was a harried owner with about a dozen kindly aproned women seamstresses; nothing chic or thoughtless about it.

I know the type you mean, though...the type that opens a gift shop in the perfect location for a diner, gas station, or grocerette. They could care less if the traveler died of hunger or ran out of gas.

 

manufacturing, construction, metal work (steel, lead), energy production (drilling in our Gulf of Mexico and in the states when the price of oil comes back up a little bit), agriculture

Mexicans find jobs by working for cash off the books and often undercutting the local workforce by not paying for health insurance and taxes. They also typically pile 15-20 people into a house and send extra money home for their retirement in low cost Mexico. Meanwhile with so many people in each home, they are taxing our emergency services, law enforcement, and education resources.

My dad couldn't give his construction company away when he retired. He retired and left 5 guys unemployed and social security was his only retirement. It's a good thing mom just retired with her retirement from the Texas Teacher's Retirement System. They opted out of social security before the loophole was closed and the retirement is much better than SS.

My kids have had a hard time finding work. One has gone into the military and he is doing OK. The adults with no skills and the illegals take all of the minimum wage jobs and those are only part time. People with ambition tend to leave minimum wage jobs behind pretty quickly once they get a job that is not in a dead end industry, but it's really hard to get that first job as a teenager.

 

Pirate, brothel quality control, chimney sweep, and fortune teller.



Seriously, though.

60k factories lost since NAFTA and China Trade, and there's still people we have to have this convo with?

They weren't lost to "automation". Unless you think China and Mexico have robot populations.
And no, they weren't lost to illegals.

However, they did create an environment of 50% working poor, a wealth gap larger than the roaring 20s, and zero social mobility.
To add more bottom level workers to the mix is absolute madness.
The mere proof they only find work because they want "the jobs owners don't want to pay", as soon as they are truly Americanized on the 2nd generation, that individual immediately starts having the job problems the rest of us do.

People like you are the reason I know longer claim left.
How can anyone represent the nation's workers that has neither clue, nor interest in obtaining one, in what the workers are being plagued by.

 

Because greedy capitalist employers fail to check their immigration status.

 

Call center jobs when you phone customer service would be nice. I am so tired of calling customer service and get an Indian guy saying "hello, my name is Bob". I always say back "hello my name is Sanjay"

 

Take away their ability to get legitimate jobs with phony or stolen social security numbers. The SSA and IRS are all too well aware of multiple people using a single social security number. One lady from California had 81 people in 17 states using hers and this isn't a unique story. With modern computer databases, it wouldn't be hard to pluck out all the duplicate or non issued or underage users excepting the original issuee. Then send notices to their employers the duplicate users payments are coming from that there appears to be an error and they must verify the social security number within 30 days or face massive fines and jail time. Enforcement had a ripple effect back in 2006 when IFCO (wooden palette maker) got caught in a Government sting. A local area electronics maker fired 88 employees that couldn't produce a valid SSN and they weren't under scrutiny by ICE. The jobs were quickly filled with citizens. E-Verify must become manditory, no exceptions and used to verify citizenship for any government benefits. Take away their ability to get legitimate jobs and or government benefits with forged paperwork and they will go home on their own.

This is a simple cost effective way to open up several million existing jobs to citizens out of work. It will also save Billions in Government benefits going to those who circumvented the legal immigration process.

 

Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Inspectors aren't really inspectors anymore and anyone can be bought off.

I'd like to see the return of heavy industry in manufacture, construction, industrial manufacture, etc. We also need to boost infrastructure repair, desperately so.

Why did you create this thread to "eyeroll" people? It's well known illegals have taken quite a few jobs in construction and contracting, as well as landscape and farming.

 

So have I. It's not possible to have a middle class life doing construction work any more. The illegal has completely crushed the pay.

 

I recall after Sandy my landlord at the time had to have a new roof put on the house we rented. She was 99 at the time (Yes, my landlord was ancient.) She was FLABBERGASTED and very upset that the crew showed up and only the foreman spoke English. It's really ridiculous how many jobs they have taken.

I don't blame the illegals, though. I blame the scumbag business owners who are looking to save a dime.

 

I really can't say I've seen an English speaking person mowing a lawn, fixing a roof or sprinkler, much less building a home in a very long time. A foreman or head contractor, yes, but the guys doing the work, nope.

If there weren't so many people on welfare I'd say that's progress, but when it's better to sit on your ass than work, our system
Is messed up.


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Exactly. No treasonous contractors, no Illegals. I have to say though. The lack of enforcement has made some contractors do it to simply stay in business. They can't compete without it.
It's what Trump was talking about.
He's tired of paying bribes to politicians who then betray American workers.
If you can't hire illegals you pay Americans more, or just don't get the job done.
E-verify should be the mandatory national hiring enforcement Law.

 

Dumb Americans hire them for less overhead pay. If an American construction worker, "laborer" is hired at $12.00/hour and a illegal immigrant will do it for $8.00/hour, who do you hire? Most construction fields have zero problems on their overhead pay. Meaning they make more than enough to hire at $12.00/hour. They choose not to, simply to save a penny in comparison to total profits.