Gary Johnson, "What is Aleppo"?

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    In the places where it matters, swing states, I don't really see any fallout from this "Aleppo" thing that is going to change anything.
     
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    I suppose that would depend on the number of third party votes cast in swing states.

    This Johnson story is just a blip on the radar screen, though. It might last a couple of days and then it, along with Johnson, will be forgotten.
     
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    Actually, I'm well aware of that. But until Mr. Johnson, had ANYONE mentioned the city Aleppo in regards to Syria? I want you to be HONEST now. The answer is clearly no, we'd partaken in the Syrian Discussions as "Syria". This isn't like Benghazi, which was a separate incident from the Libyan civil war . To all of a sudden say "Aleppo is at the center of the humanitarian crisis" is dishonesty to the tilt, to try and make it look worse for Johnson than it really is.

    Again, it puts the American Media and public at question more than Johnson. I mean, REALLY? Sadly, I expect this kind of discourse from Americans. We're a really dumb country.
     
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    HONESTLY, anyone that is at least aware of recent headlines should be aware of Aleppo. There's no getting around it. That's why the Johnson gaffe is trending.

    On the plus side, Johnson's name recognition just went up. :)

     
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    Yeah.... hokay then.
     
  6. AmericanNationalist

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    I don't care about a single city amidst an entire country in WAR and frankly neither should you. It's a pathetic "gotcha" for a pathetic country that has the attention span of toddlers sometimes. Again, when you complain about Congress with its low approval ratings but keep sending R/D's, and when you elect presidents on style instead of substance, you get what you paid for.
     
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    The way I figure it, Trump's numbers are pretty much "locked in" - everyone has pretty much made up their mind whether they're going to vote for him or not. He's not going to gain any voters, but odds are he's not going to lose any either. The only way he wins now is to get so over-the-top negative that he makes the undecideds either not vote or vote third-party. If third-party candidates like Johnson are seen as less viable, that makes Trump's job harder. Clinton wins if she makes a convincing case to the anti-Trump Republicans that she is an acceptable alternative.
     
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    It's not a gotcha; it's a basic question. Most anyone on this forum could have had SOME comment about Aleppo. Johnson's? What's Aleppo?? And you want to defend that? Go right ahead.

    BTW, don't presume to tell me what I should care about.

     
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    I have a sneaking feeling that this is probably not going to help his polling numbers.
    Johnson and his supporters can kiss any chance of him being included in the upcoming presidential debates goodbye.
    Maybe he would have fared better if the interviewer asked him where "Dumbasskuss" was..
     
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    And I see things quite the opposite :) The undecideds know everything about Hillary, she's been in the spotlight for 25 years after all. The only truly unknown thing in this election is whether Trump can be and act presidential and whether he can be trusted to lead the nation and the world.

    There's is nothing much Hillary can do about the outcome besides running not very effective negative ads. It's entirely up to Trump to convince the undecideds that he can be trusted, which is a monumental task after all his self inflicted wounds. Whether he can pull it off remains to be seen.
     
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    Kind of like how NYC was just a "single city" on 9/11?

    Got it.
     
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    Being honest and fair to myself, I would have paused and recollected before having that ah-ha moment in my mind. It would've taken me a moment to connect Aleppo to Syria. Because we've all phrased it as "Syria". Just now, and specifically for mr. Johnson was it put in the terms of "Aleppo"
     
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    The main difference between the people in this forum and Mr. Johnson is that none of us are candidates for the office of President; when you are dealing with foreign policy, knowing the names of the important cities is paramount. Large numbers of people are dying everyday in Aleppa which would obviously make it a notable city when it comes to foreign policy. He should have done his homework and he didn't.
     
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    I disagree - look around - Trump is the one everyone has been talking about. Love him or hate him, whether he wins or loses, he's the dominant personality of the campaign. He's the benchmark we use to compare everyone else. The simple fact of the matter is that he's so divisive that he's just unacceptable to a large percentage of his own party. The question is where do they go now? Who gets the Jeb Bush vote? Definitely not Trump. Maybe Johnson. Maybe even Clinton. Well, if that's the situation, and Johnson drops the ball that kind of limits the alternatives, doesn't it?

    Everyone has already made up their mind whether Trump is "Presidential" or not.
     
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    At least he was willing to man up and admit he didn't know, stating that he needs to get more knowledge of specific details, yet we have another candidate that is trying to blow smoke up people's rears and keep burying himself every time he opens his mouth

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq6UtGcGPLM

    By the way, can anyway direct me to a quote from Trump mentioning Aleppo in specifics rather than just Syria?
     
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    If that was the case, we'd have no undecideds. We do and more than usual. The Republicans who choose to vote for Johnston do it as a protest vote, not because they want or expect him to win. They don't care about his libertarian platform or his gaffes. It's just a protest so they may still vote for him. There's no way they will vote for Hillary though. They can always write in Ronald Reagan.

    The only unknown for the true undecideds is whether Trump can be presidential and trusted. They have no other reason to remain undecided. The election outcome hinges on Trump's ability to improve his image in the next 2 months.
     
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    Yeah, except that Hillary wants us to believe that she can't remember her name half the time, so she's probably "a leppo, is that a kitty with spots on it?"
     
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    It's all about protecting the 2 parties and the lose-lose situation that they want to keep the US in. Hillary and, especially, Trump have had their gaffes. But, hey, Johnson is an "idiot" for not knowing everything about everything.

    The government worshipers don't want a heretic as president.
     
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    Here's what Hillary said at the Commander-in-Chief forum last night:

    “And I think taking that action was the right decision,” she continued. “Not taking it and permitting there to be an ongoing civil war in Libya would have been as dangerous and threatening as what we are now seeing in Syria.”

    Does she not know that the Libyan Crises has been ongoing since 2011 and there has been civil war since 2014?

    Of course, the Hillary worshipers here will forgive the gaffe (or remain deliberately ignorant of it), even though she was secretary of state at the time the conflict started.

    If Johnson is a moron, Hillary is not only a moron, but completely incompetent in her role as SoS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Crisis_(2011–present)

    let's see, she also said this:
    “They are not going to get ground troops. We are not putting ground troops into Iraq ever again. And we’re not putting ground troops into Syria. We’re going to defeat ISIS without committing American ground troops.”

    Yet, there are 3,000 troops still in Iraq. 400 arrived over the Labor Day weekend.

    Johnson, to his credit, has not had any foreign policy position in the Federal government. He should know the basics, shouldn't Hillary, as well? No one expects much from Trump.
     
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    For the sheep who vote D/R, it's the other "side" that is evil, while their side is righteous and good.
     
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    Why? That makes me want to vote for him more, not less! I don't care how many children are raped and murdered in Aleppo, I want the focus HERE, DOMESTIC, spend the money here! I don't want to save the world, I don't want our people dying there to save THEM, either let SOMEBODY ELSE save them or fck it, they can die, I don't want our money spent there.
     
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    NYC is a financial and cultural capital of the world.

    Aleppo is about the size of Houston in a country the size of North Dakota. For all most people would know about it, it might as well be as well known as Boise would be to a resident of Siberia.
     
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    I once had toyed with the idea of him bring my alternate protest vote. Wow the guy us as ignorant as Trump. Well maybe not as bad as Trump.,
     
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    If they'd mentioned the name to Trump, he would have thought it was the fifth Marx Brother.
     
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    That us an insult to Marx Brothers..... Karl included.
     

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