Black Lives Matters. A Terrorist or Hate Group?

Lol...Trump chumps. Terrorists or racists?
See, I can talk (*)(*)(*)(*) as well as you.

 

As you dodged my request for source citation I take the above as opinion. Opinion do not interest me here as opinion is without limits, thus my affinity towards facts as they are not without limits. There is no doubt that some within the movement advocate violence, but I have seen no objective body of research that proves that it is systemic.

 

Opinion do not interest me here as opinion is without limits, thus my affinity towards facts as they are not without limits. There is no doubt that some within the movement advocate violence, but I have seen no objective body of research that proves that it is systemic.

 

Nice strawman.

How one judges another says more about the judge than the judged. I never claimed to be able to separate the two.

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Nice strawman.

 

Actually that is exactly what the founder of BLM states amongst many more divisive non inclusive statements in her " Herstory " Here is an excerpt and the link.

" And, to keep it real–it is appropriate and necessary to have strategy and action centered around Blackness without other non-Black communities of color, or White folks for that matter, needing to find a place and a way to center themselves within it." - Alicia Garza

Now that is mild, her Herstory is charged with aggressive, angry racist, bigoted, rhetoric. I have yet to find the word peaceful anywhere on the site. The woman is a stark raving mad lunatic with now a tremendous amount of influence. I contend it's this lack of responsibility of BLM rhetoric is why there has been so much violence by people utilizing BLM while performing brutal assaults

http://blacklivesmatter.com/herstory/

 

Just like your hero Clinton...can't answer the question hah.

 

Well said.

 

Did anyone ever suggest that Black lives don't matter?

No one I know "suggested" it but the actions of the police, the media, and people like you made it pretty clear that they don't matter.

What's the first (and usually only) reaction to an unarmed black man killed by police?

It sure isn't concern

 

"We are committed to embodying and practicing justice, liberation, and peace in our engagements with one another." (Mouse over Loving Engagement)
http://blacklivesmatter.com/guiding-principles/

 

And I would challenge this with.. what are facts without limits without a limited opinion? I have provided facts above as to the mental state of a founder. Her ideology is pervasive throughout all of BLM. All 38 Chapters of it. There's many more facts all around us but we have to be open to assimilate them and form an educated opinion.

I find a direct discrepancy between her ranting history and the much more PC language used through out the site. Someone smart wrote it and it wasn't her. The DC chapters website has even more militant tones. Never saw the word peaceful on their site either.

The sheer lacking of encouraging peaceful protest is quite telling if put together with all the other data

 

Now go read the founders rant

 

Nonsensical as the above does not exist.

Opinion based upon a fact renders any conclusion an opinion as facts need not be expounded upon. For example it is a fact to say that some who participate in BLM protests shout slogans such as "pigs in a blanket". To add to that fact by arguing that is proof that BLM is a terrorist organization or a hate group is not supported by the stated fact thus the attached argument is opinion as opposed to fact.

I would say you posted quotes then added your own interpretation of her words. You also claimed that you "have yet to find the word peaceful anywhere on the site", which I was easily able to refute by posting a quote that spoke of peace and I provided a link as source citation.

Opinion is unnecessary in the presence of fact. Claims made beyond the scope of fact leave the realm of fact and become opinion.

 

When was it written? Please provide link to claimed rant.

 

My god man what are you a robot? Vulcan? A blind beggar bored and found a Braille keyboard?

You are quoting things out of context and defining them individually whereas they need to be assimilated as an entire idea, I.E. The scope of all accumulative and it bores me. Your obviously intelligent but are you intuitive? Or do you need to be spoon fed data like an ancient abacus? We aren't your secretaries. My opinions are mine and I believe sound due to the extreme violence associated with this group

Snorts. And the link is provided on the previous page

 

I would say I value objectivity over bias. I do not know why you are here, but I am here to learn as I see knowledge as power. I have found bias to be an impediment to my pursuit of knowledge thus I avoid it like the plague. This not to say that I am without bias, but when I see a bias in me I immediately take action to remove it. I am not here to change the minds of others as that is all but am exercise in futility, thus I am here to learn from you and others. To change my mind I will need more than opinion as opinion is like a bellybutton... everybody has one. Facts impress me, not opinion.

There is nothing wrong with assessing an accumulation of evidence, but to string it all together, add our own interpretation, then argue it as fact is illogical by my measure of logic.

Are not we all?

Being intuitive is fine, but it should not be a substitute for fact. Conclusions based upon an intuitive assessment are not synonymous with fact. In the presence of fact being intuitive is unnecessary.

Fair enough but opinion is not synonymous with fact. The facts as I see them is that there are forces in the BLM movement that advocate violence. What is read into the fact beyond that is speculation. How many BLM members are there? What percentage of BLM members advocate violence? If you do not know the answer to those two questions and back said answer with statistical data from an objective body of research then all you have is anecdotally based opinion. Perhaps that is good enough for you and others but I set the bar higher.

This link?
http://blacklivesmatter.com/herstory/

If so what specifically do you find objectionable in the link? I have read it before as this is not my first debate on this subject and I see no proof of terrorism or the spread of hate in the above link.

 

And on and on. And to think that conservatives keep trying to tell us that they are not racists.

 

America is a worse place with BLM.

That is not a racist statement.

 

Actually it is. You are saying that America is worse off because people object to the police unfairly targeting them. Would you prefer a dictatorship and the attendant police state.

 

Actually it is. why would pointing out injustice make the country worse?

 

ter·ror·ism
/ˈterəˌrizəm/

noun

1. the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

 

and on and on, progressives call any kind of truth they don't like racist.

Please tell me how now calling the group, which has caused a ton of damage and contributed to deaths and beatings is not akin to being a terrorist organization?

They call for the death of cops, white people, and beat up people for saying all lives matter. Yet you think republicans are the racists?

Go back to the playground.

 

So disagreeing with the group and their destructive tactics is now racist?

Lol I remember this BS progressive tactic, they tried using it to say people were racist if they did not vote or agree with everything Obama did.

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It's not just the pointing out their lie about the injustice, again they also kill cops, attack people and destroy cities.

But hey, keep ignoring the facts.

 

BLM do not represent blacks.

 

I'm saying the cure is worse than the disease.

BLM's demand for dead cops, the violence it incites, and the increased racial division is making the U.S. a worse place to live.

 

The police aren't unfairly targeting them. Blacks have more frequent encounters with the police because they commit so much of the crimes.