Are you Wikileaks or American?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by WanRen, Oct 28, 2016.

  1. TedintheShed

    TedintheShed Banned

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    I have to admit, it is amusing watching the the Hillary lickspittles in Chinese Fire Drill mode since that Comey announcement and the "Bill Clinton, Inc." report came out. It's been a wonderful sort of chaos, but of course they have now been queued as to their talking points, so they are just spewing the same nonsense over and over.

    Fun while it lasted!
     
  2. see you next tuesday

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    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.......fcuk me that's funny.

    Stay home, praise jesus and shoot black people, its the only way you can stay safe in the land of the free.
     
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly.

    And they did so while the conservatives were opposed doing any of those things.

    American conservatives, particularly, have been on the wrong side of our major conflicts.

    During Revolutionary times, the American conservatives were called Tories...and argued that we owed our allegiance to our liege lord George III.

    During Civil War years, American conservatives (living in the Democratic Party at that time) wanted individual states to determine if black people could be held as slaves.
     
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    Did the fact that he took sanctuary in Russia to avoid extradition to the US change what he did? Further, what proof do you have that he was a sleeper agent for Russia?
     
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    You failed to address the issue of National Security vs National Embarrassment.
     
  6. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    The only National Embarrassment is having Trump running as candidate of one of the major political party the Republican Party a big National Embarrassment to the history, tradition the party of Lincoln and Reagan. Trump is both a national embarrassment and a threat to national security.

    Trump should not have been allowed because he is not qualified to be a candidate especially after he has clearly demonstrated that he speaks for Russia and Wikileaks.
     
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    undermining corporatist neocons like Hillary and Co., who are undermining the the American system, American history, principle and tradition.

    Whistle blowers are always traitors to you neocon worshipers.
     
  8. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    The new term for espionage or spy is whistle blower the work they do is the same steal top secrete information.
    Snowden went to Russia because he is a Russian deep throat sleeper cell agent.
    The evidences that Snowden is a Russian agent is undeniable on the other hand no evidence exist that he is not a Russian deep throat agent.
    There are too many deep throat sleeper cells in the USA that have came out in the open with this on going election led by Trump that is why Trump's campaign is that the USA is a rigged nation the language of Russia and Wikileaks.

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    Spies and traitors are always heroes to their allies and supporters.

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    Hillary is the Iron Lady of the USA in spite of Russia having her emails they have failed to blackmail her or to control her on the other hand Trump clearly is a Russian lap dog a puppet.
     
  9. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Trump is another Viktor Yanukovych a puppet of Russia just like Viktor Yanukovych destroyed Ukraine and allowed parts Ukraine to become part of Russia, Trump will do the same to the USA.
     
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    And with Russia having all of Hillary's e-mails she wont be a puppet?

    You are arguing that I should accept the conspiracy theory that Trump is a puppet of Russia while you admit that Russia has Hillary's e-mails which means she will be forced to do their bidding.

    Nope not a very strong argument at all.

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    Why would they blackmail her before she has won the election? Your arguments dont make much sense at all. I dont think you have thought this out.
     
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    Another example of the liberal technique. Instead of evidence, post lies. The term sleeper cell means someone planted in another country to live a normal life until the nation that planted them calls upon them to do a specific preplanned job. Unless you have proof of ties between Snowden and Russia prior to Snowden committing espionage, then your just posting lies.

    For the record, I am not a fan of Snowden. I agree that what he did was an act of espionage. But I was pointing out that the zombies in this country loved Snowden when he released classified information to the world in an actual act of treason. They also love Hillary who stored Classified information on an unsecured server, emailed classified information through an unsecured network. At the same time attack Wikileaks for hacking the DNC and a Hillary Campaign advisor's accounts. These accounts were not a part of the government, and did not contained classified national secrets. So, the liberal tantrum over Wikilinks is nothing but another example of liberal hypocrisy. That was my point.
     
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    Good thing you live in Canada then...

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    Wan, are you employed by Clinton? LOL
     
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    Transparency, so difficult for some.
     
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    Yeah ok, if that was the case why would they say anything? They wouldn't!
     
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    Well, then it is a "criminal" organization that has shed light on the real Democrats and how THEY are a criminal organization. I seem to remember after Wikileaks released the DNC emails, the DNC issued an apology to Bernie Sanders for their "inexcusable" behavior. Debbie Wasserman Shultz was disgraced and was forced to resign because of those leaked emails. Does THAT sound like the emails were phony? I really don't think so. Have the Democrats been able to PROVE that any other emails concerning Hillary and others are phony or doctored? NO! Liars are gonna lie and Democrats and their media minions will insinuate that they are fake, but that's only them trying to cover their sorry butts hoping that some stupid person will believe them. Bottom line is that the DNC acknowledged them to be true and i am sure the rest are too becuse the info has not been denied by the parties involved. You can deflect all you want that Wikileaks is "criminal" but people don't care if they are or aren't because they have verified what we already know. The REAL criminals are the ones mentioned in all those emails and that is what sane Democrats need to digest. Can you really keep supporting a group of Mafia-like criminals who are not interested in the US, but only greed and power? Democrats really need to reflect on what their party has become. NO EXCUSES!
     
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    The first duty of politicians is to ensure the security of the homeland, so in that respect Hillary falls flat and I wouldn't want to put the lives of my family in her hands at all..;)

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    Then there's the little matter of her and Obama cosying up to Iran-

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    The democrats don't have the burden of proof; the accusers do have the burden of proof.


    You have no concrete proof, only speculation on what you think might be the truth in your mind. The last time I checked, in our country you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law; going around declaring groups of people such as the DNC as criminals only undermines your argument. To my knowledge, Debbie Wasserman was never arrested and charged with any crimes regarding the so-called "leaked emails" and you may recall she was a part of the DNC at the time. In fact I do not believe that anyone from the DNC has been arrested and charged with any crimes in relation to the "leaked emails" to date.

    It's nothing more then a wish list on your part.
     
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    And she's racking up tensions with Russia and endangering the futures of every American man woman and child-

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    The emails are just cookie recipes from Tammy Wynette.
     
  21. WanRen

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    Indeed the top duty of a presidential candidate is the homeland and Trump is not about the USA it is about his homeland Wikileaks and Russia's interest.

    Hillary is about the USA!
    [video=youtube;rEJo7x9y3D4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEJo7x9y3D4[/video]

    Trump is the Benedict Arnold reincarnated.
     
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    Russia got to Hillary's and the DNC and the USA top secretes thanks to their deepthroat agent Snowden.
    Trump is no conspiracy he is very clear he praise and support Russia and Wikileaks he is a puppet of Russia as Hillary has clearly exposed him to be.
    No argument is needed and because there are many Russian deepthroats that have succeeded infiltrating the USA they are now in politics, military, law enforcement, secret service, intelligence agencies, education they are now all coming out under the leadership of Trump.

    Communist propaganda the USA is a phoney free country that Trump is campaigning the USA is a rigged system he does not believe in freedom.
     
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    It's funny, I would regard most Wikileaks people in the same realm as conspiracy theorists - and I certainly wouldn't classify them as republican.
    Regardless of whether you see them as criminal or freedom fighters of America... the information that they can divulge should not just be ignored because of the illegal nature of the source.

    I don't think it's a new notion that politicians can be corrupt, but I recognize the difference between classified sensitive information (such as deep cover operatives) and illegal political activities; I would welcome revelation of the latter, especially if it were for a candidate I put faith in.
     
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    Communist agents are very good in lying just like they lie that Trump is not a Russian-Wikileak supporter or that Snowden is not a spy. Snowden preplan everything that is why he was able to steal top sensitive informations and succeeded in fleeing back to Russia and he has no plans to return to the USA to proof he is not a Russian spy.

    The zombies are the sleeper cells they have woke up and has been activated they have learn that the USA freedom will not allow the USA to persecute the new spies the whistle blower because these whistle blowers are America citizens.

    It was the liberals who revolted against King James,
    It was the liberals who declared independence
    It was the liberals who formulated the US Constitution and Bill of Rights.
    It was the liberals who emancipated slavery
    It was the liberals who fought against the Confederates to stop them from dividing the country
    It was the liberals who produce the flag of the USA
    It was the liberals who fought enacted civil rights and women's rights
    It is the liberals that are protecting and preserving the integrity, tradition and history of the USA
     
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    Funny how you all used to LOVE Wikileaks and quote from some of the documents all the time. Now that some bad stuff about your party is being revealed, suddenly they are aligned with Russia? :laughing:

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    Holy smokes. What a lackey you are. Shame on you.
     

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