Trump’s Plan For The Wall On The Mexican Border Materializes

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  1. AmericanNationalist

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    They're not being banned on outsourcing money, they're being taxed on it. And how would we import anything? The same way we do now, it'll just be more expensive. Anything where money goes outside of the US, it's taxed. And we haven't hosted the Olympics since, WHEN? I don't give a crap. It's a symbolic tournament.

    Go worry about England.
     
  2. The Mello Guy

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    No first youd figure out how much more the tariff would cost vs the cost of US labor, then you'd still move
     
  3. truth and justice

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    You have now just collapsed your stock market.
     
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    No I'm not missing the point you took one type of money he stated should be taxed and applied it to all the money in the whole country. Here let me help you. Read :

    "" Mexico received more than $24.4 billion in remittances in 2014 from immigrants living in the United States, which makes up about two percent of the Mexican GDP, according to World Bank data. Losing that money could devastate the country's economy.Apr 5, 2016 ""

    THATS what they're going to tax. Easy too. Add on increased Tariffs, revisions to NAFTA and a host of other boon doggle trade agreements we have? Lotta money..
     
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    Please do.

    Trump's wall, if it ever materializes, will be a global symbol of American intolerance and bigotry for the world to see.
     
  6. AmericanNationalist

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    I wish I could collapse Wall Street, that's one place where I see eye to eye with Sanders and Warren. We don't worship the City like you do.

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    Whether it's a wall or a border fence, or whatever will be a global symbol that the Republicans upheld National Security while the Democrats fretted in the face of 21st century challenges.
     
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    Don't ask questions like that. It just confuses them.
     
  8. TomFitz

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    Taxing remittances will be a hardship for thousands of Mexicans working seasonal work for employers in the United States, citizens or not.

    Revising NAFTA and taxing imports from Mexico will raise the price to you for a host of consumer goods.
     
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    It will be a symbol of America's march backwards into xenophibia and fear.

    Trade with Mexico is not a "21st Century challenge". It's just business.

    One of the reasons NAFTA exists is because we'd rather have the manufacturing next door, where partial assemblies and stampings etc, can be shipped across the border for final assembly, as many car componants are, or have the entire thing shipped to Japan, Korea or China.
     
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    Japan is protectionist. It seems to work for them.
     
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    Here's how to get Mexico to pay for the wall.

    Insist that Mexico work together with the US to interdict drugs and shut down the cartels.
    All money confiscated from the cartels goes to finance the wall.
     
  12. truth and justice

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    As if by magic, the wall has turned into a fence !

    And what will be his next magic trick?
     
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    This guy is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idiot, and the alt right Goons who actually believe this (*)(*)(*)(*) need to understand one gigantic, massive, yuuuge sticking point:


    Walls don't stop tunnels.
     
  14. AmericanNationalist

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    It's "xenophobia", and it's not xenophobic. It's fact. We can't have people crossing our border undocumented, only then to be gifted with citizenship. This is the SECOND time in 3 decades that we're talking "pathway to citizenship". So, what's going to happen the next time around? At the very least, we need to get rid of, or better clarify Birthright Citizenship so that only US Citizens get birthright Citizenship, not foreign nationals who happen to have a baby here.

    We heard of Al-Qaeda like elements in Latin America, we saw the incursion into our borders in 2014, and Hillary's like "those poor children." Well, we can protect those poor children by saying "they're not welcome" and they won't make the trip to begin with.

    There's no reason we can't negotiate a trade deal with the Mexicans individually. There's no reason we can't negotiate with the Asian bloc individually.
    At any rate, an arrangement in which we lose US Jobs and when workers have to be relocated overseas or to a different town is simply not acceptable.

    Liberal America is a gigantic failure in all areas, from national security to our domestic economy. Hence, Donald Trump.
     
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    Of course it has to pencil. Goes without saying. The point is relocating increases the stakes. It creates a variable that could increase. Also, by staying at home, it creates a "Buy American" branding, which can help sales.

    Meanwhile, in other areas, reduce regulations, taxes and provide a way for money to come back into the USA, we'll have an economic liftoff.
     
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    "Let's say half," you say? Show some real numbers.

    A 35% tariff would make companies think twice, no doubt. Goods would cost more, no doubt. I don't like that at all. But shipping our jobs out of country isn't healthy either. New trade agreements that are more in our favor would help us enormously. We are the greatest market on earth, that is leverage. If other countries want access to our markets, they should have to buy more of our goods in exchange. This keeps jobs here. It creates wealth. It puts America first.
     
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    They can always pay a bounty for every illegal alien.
     
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    No one would buy your goods because they would be too expensive.

    ps Not possible to show real numbres as no product has been mentioned it could be a car or a pc
     
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    I went ahead and saved it in a separate file with the rest.
     
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    Bahia hey yanks hope you enjoy spending billions on that wall. Or fence. Or imaginary wall or fence.
     
  22. AmericanNationalist

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    Could be cost related. But I've never been one for details. Whether it's the great wall of Trump, or whether it's a barbed fence. The fact of the matter is, is that every country governs its borders. Except, seemingly the United States. And it's had dire consequences for our economy and our security.
     
  23. AmericanNationalist

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    Cdnpoli: If I'm not mistaken, Canada has a serious immigration program and in fact strengthened it to cover the marriage loophole. What's good for Canada should be good for her Northern Neighbor right?
     

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