Britain to warn Nato allies to pay 'fair share' amid fears . . .

I'm surprised the jihadists haven't adopted Sweden as their Caliphate, seeing as Assad will never in a million years let them have Syria?

 

Depends whom all you rate as terrorist at least ... Hezbollah?

 

The definition of terrorist changes to fit one's purposes. Technically a terrorist should be anyone who attempts to inspire fear in their opponents in service of their beliefs. As it is?

Well, the US and Turkey both say the PKK are terrorists, but the minute those PKK cross the border and become Syrian YPG, the US doesn't think they're terrorists anymore while the Turks still do. Hizbu'llah is considered a resistance group by Shia Muslims, not terrorists. Bashar al Assad considers literally everyone who opposes him a terrorist. The Saudis think atheists are terrorists by their very existence.

 

The US is free to rape the human rights, but they said they are going to uphold them. Let's stick to that last part, instead of what the US could do in a parallel universe.

 

An EU army would take time and much money.. because current military spending is so low.. yes, i'm aware of that. But long term, it's easily doable. it's not as if the EU is poor is what I mean. But in the short term, can enough be done to protect the eastern states? Can help be spared to ukraine? who knows..

Sweden has relatively good finances and not much debt.. Dont you worry about us, we can afford anything that's required. I just wished that we'd have a rightist government instead of a leftist government in these troubling times.. but, reality has a way of forcing the leftists to do the right thing.. eventually.

 

I was talking about the national governments.

 

Once again, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is not binding and there are no provisions for enforcement.

You might want to read US reservations to those "human rights" treaties to which it is a signatory.

 

Yes, I didn't think otherwise; I just wanted to get across that the dire situation, and the imminent seriously adverse ramifications of the common currency is understood by everyone, and that the elitists are entirely responsible for it rather than the populaces.

 

There already is an agreement to increase defense spending to 2% by 2023/24 .

Perhaps someone should mention this to trump?

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Total EU spending for defense is 230billion.

You can make a real nice capable army out of that. Even now without the US there is no direct threath to the EU.
Perhaps russia if it keeps up its spending in the next decade.

 

Yeah right, we'll see if that happens!

 

Correct ... in core it depends always who is rating whom to be a terrorist. Ask Iran and ask Israel about if Hezbollah is a terrorist group and you know what both will answer.... as well with the other example about Kurds you gave with Turkey and others like the USA.
Same you can ask in SA and other Arabic states at least about ISIS too, because aside official statements of any government about this rating is the opinion of the populations an important factor ... and here not only few will say that ISIS are freedom fighters.

Also, even if this and that group is rated as terrorist by someone, it does not mean that they are equal rated as evil or threat! To give you 2 examples in Syria:

a) Russia is rating Al Nusra as evil terrorists and of course they do about ISIS and they declared War against terror against both. Point is that both, Al Nusra and ISIS are also deep enemies against each other and fighting each other heavy too. So, why the hack are out of 10 Russian bombings 8 times Al Nusra the target and only 2 times ISIS?
b) Turkey is rating PKK / YPG as terrorists and they are rating ISIS as terrorist too and declare to fight them as the rest of the world. Same as with Al Nusra (which is btw supported by Turkey and not rated by Turley to be terrorists!), The Kurds and ISIS are in deep war against teach other too. And here, too, out of 10 Turkish bombing raids are about 8 against Kurds and only 2 against ISIS... why?

So at least something in direction of the old thinking of "enemy of my enemy is my friend!" thinking, which is now also given in matter to fight worst terrorists?

 

Without cause (as in russia is starting to rearm itself for offensive capabilities) I dont see that happening.

But if that isnt happening, why spend more ? What nato currently has even just the european part is more then enough.

 

No, Russia is arming itself in readiness to counter NATO aggression. You've been listening to western politicians and talking heads too much!

 

I don't want to save Europe this time around. F#$k 'em. They caused their own problems this time.

 

And while the bullying but deluded NATO is rattling its sabre at Russia, Islamic State will creep up from behind and bite NATO'S collective arses. YOU BLOODY SUCKERS!!!!! This is soooo weird. Putin must think he's perpetually in the middle of a weird dream.

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I'm afraid NATO is dancing to the Pentagon's tune so don't blame us??

 

Rather irrelevant to what I noted in my previous argument.
The US is not a country that is going to trash human rights.
Thank you for playing.