NOT the prez election.. Obama and his leftist agenda has decimated his own party

ssshhh he still thinks he is the best PoTUS since Lincoln, this wasn't his fault

 

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Matters a lot actually. Shows that Trump is very vulnerable, and with the right candidate, the Dems could easily take back the white house in 2020.

Considering that Trump is failing to "drain the swamp" and is already flip flopping on many issues, I wouldn't be too sure. But even if you are saying is true...the pendulum will swing back the other way, and whatever Trump accomplishes will be dismantled by a future Dem president. So I wouldn't get so giddy if I were you.

 

Just remember, the public has a very short memory.

 

In probably less than three short years, there are going to be a bunch of democrats all trying to get the nomination. The first problem will be the debates. The usual suspects like CNN and NBC are going to be suspect because of the collusion with the press against Sanders. CNN is definitely out, and their absence will be like trying not to notice a gorilla in the living room. It can't be ignored, and that will certainly remind the public that the DNC is corrupt, and in bed with the networks.

They'll be watched like hawks, which is going to make things tough.

And then, of course, Trump will be the incumbent trying to get a second term. Do you think he'll be shy about reminding people what happened in 2016? I highly doubt it. He'll be back larger than life, and with the power of the executive branch behind him.

The public might have a short memory, but Trump will be more than happy to remind them.

 

The overwhelming majority of Americans are not haters, bigots, racists, Islamaphobes, xenophobes, homophobes. Telling them that they are does not endear you to them. But that's not stopping you. Keep it up and see if it earns their vote lol

 

Yes but trump won in the highest total ballots ever casted. There is reason to believe that the real anomaly was Obama, not Trump. We have historically been a center right country.

 

When you say "Americans" who are you talking about? Just curious.

 

Your party has only won 1 popular vote in the last five election cycles.

That's actually very bad news, especially if the Demographics do end up changing, but you are too busy celebrating Trump barely winning to realize it. And America is a progressive country, for the most part, especially on social issues.

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Yeah, but in 2020 74 year old Trump will have to be running on his record, not garbage promises and race baiting rhetoric he ran on in 2016. 2020 will be an ENTIRELY different ball game. If Trump doesn't deliver on at least a significant portion of his campaign promises...he will be fired.

 

Even if the 'demographics' do end up changing, it's the major weakness of your political party. You're literally hinging on a different geographical country because your party is too inept to actually win elections in the middle. That's what that means.

Someone will overtake the Democrats, in a similar fashion to how the Whig party was overthrown.

 

We stole the working class right from beneath the democrats nose. Good luck getting it back, also remember when liberals would always say, "the map is favorable for liberals". Now the same is true for Trump. Republicans have more power than you perceive because we are a republic, not a democracy.

Right 2020 will be ALOT different, and I expect Trump to win easily because he will have a good record.

 

Your party doesn't win in the middle, that's why it specifically panders to white voters in the south. Without those voters...the GOP is irrelevant, and they know it.

The Democrats actually have a much broader base than the GOP.

 

Trump did no better among working class whites than Romney. Trump won because minorities and young voters didn't vote for Clinton like they did Obama. If a future Dem candidate can energize those voters to support him or her...then those states that Trump barely won will go back blue. You guys only won because Democrats stood home...not because Republicans came in massive amounts to support Trump. Trump received the typical support any regular GOP candidate received in the past.

 

Nonsense. If the democrats had a candidate that was half as good as Obama, we'd have never seen a Trump presidency. It's amazing how republicans worked their butts off to make sure government failed over the last 8 years and then held up their work as an example of how government doesn't work.

 

So much broader you won all of 1.5 million voters(at best) more than Donald Trump. More than Donald freaking Trump lol. You used to have a broad base before you guys went on the 'white privilege' screed. Until you drop THAT from your platform, good luck.

 

Clinton barely defeating an imbecile like Trump reflects poorly on her as a candidate, not the Democrats. The Democrats are certainly very stupid in many ways, but I hope Clinton losing to a clown like Trump should be a learning experience for them to never back such a dull and baggage ridden candidate ever again, and definitely don't force that candidate down the voters throats.

But you guys keep mentioning white voters, and I can't figure out why. Trump won 58% of the white vote. That's on par with Romney, McCain, Dubya, etc. Had whites came out and voted for Trump in historic numbers, you'd have a point, but they didn't. Truth is, I suspect many of the whites who voted Trump probably did so because they dislike Clinton more, not because they like him. I have a numerous co-workers who voted that way.

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Had Trump run in 2012 and won the nomination, he would have lost and be remembered as a failed experiment.

 

Not true, Trump over performed the demographic in the critical Rust Belt states BIG time.

 

Yet his overall white support was still lower than Romney's (slightly). Which means while he may have garnered white votes, he also lost some in the process.

 

Yeah, he took the working class votes, which is what I was talking about. Not necessarily white.

 

Heckuva Job, Barack!

Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job.' President George W. Bush was roundly and soundly mocked in 2005 when he said that to FEMA boss Michael Brown in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.

Now we are seeing similar praise, with President Obama being assured that he has obviously done a heck of a job over the past eight years. The only problem is that the praise is being offered by President Obama himself.

Desperately trying to avoid any personal blame for last week's electoral carnage, the president is telling anyone who will listen that his policies worked, declaring, 'The country is indisputably better off.'

We can all agree that President Obama did some very positive things during his tenure. The economy was on life support when he took over; his administration staunched the bleeding and stabilized the patient. Speaking of health, ObamaCare has certainly helped millions of Americans obtain insurance, although millions of others paid a steep price.

However, there is a long list of things that did not improve, perhaps even got worse, over the past eight years.

Our tax code is more complex and stifling than ever, and small business formation has been crushed. The number of Americans demanding and receiving free stuff has never been higher.

President Obama is a man of very few regrets. And those he has are microscopic. He actually said this earlier this year: 'It is one of the few regrets of my presidency that the rancor and suspicions between the parties has gotten worse.'

Earth to President Obama: You have presided over the weakest recovery in memory. While the official unemployment rate is low, tens of millions of Americans have given up looking for work and the national debt is approaching $20-trillion.

Illegal immigrants have flooded across our border and some have committed heinous crimes. In too many of our metropolises, murder rates are up and hope is down. You remember 'hope,' don't you? The old sidekick of 'change.'

Things are far, far worse for many others around the globe. The Middle East is in chaos, refugees have overrun parts of Europe, and Iran gives the USA the middle finger. Presuming that is not against Sharia law, of course. Worst of all, the bloodshed in Syria has been nauseating. But just this week, asked whether President Obama has any regrets about his inaction in Syria, his press secretary deftly, and earnestly, ducked the question.

While President Obama is still personally liked by most Americans, he is fully aware of what happened to the Democratic Party and its progressive ideology under his watch.

In January of 2009 Democrats controlled both chambers of Congress, the presidency, most governorships, and were seemingly an unstoppable force. Books were being churned out about the inevitable and enduring Democratic ascendency. Well, as they used to say in movies, 'Stop the presses!'

The Republican Party, once the subject of countless obituaries, has never been healthier. The GOP is indeed feeling quite Grand these days, with total control of most states and with its hands on all the levers of power in Washington. That can easily change, so conservatives might want to avoid writing books about the permanent Republican majority.

American citizens, at least those not residing on the coasts or on elite college campuses, have made it abundantly clear that they are not big fans of liberalism. And the Democratic strategy of slicing and dicing the electorate into ethnic and racial and religious interest groups has failed, big time.

But right now some leading Democrats, among them Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, are urging their party to shift even farther to the left. They want to put the DNC in the hands of Congressman Keith Ellison, a man of the left who previously defended Louis Farrakhan. This guy, while associating with Farrakhan's Nation of Islam, actually identified himself as 'Keith X Ellison' and 'Keith Ellison-Muhammed.'

An Israel-hating radical as head of the Democratic Party? Yeah, as Jon Lovitz might say, that's the ticket.

The Republicans, meanwhile, have placed their fate in the hands of an untested tycoon who has made many vague and grandiose promises. If Donald Trump does not deliver on his own version of 'hope and change,' American voters will strike back like so many cobras.

Surveying the current political landscape, one thing is absolutely certain. President Obama is leaving behind a nation that is far less blue than when he took office. Not less depressed, but far less blue on the electoral map.

In the United States of America in late 2016, there can be little doubt about it: Red … is the new black. Heckuva job, Barack.

Bill O'Reilly -> https://www.billoreilly.com/b/Staff-Column:-Heckuva-Job,-Barack!/-379749527982038420.html

 

2018, mid term elections, Senate Democrats, defend 25 seats compared to just eight held by Republicans. The Democrats’ list includes 2 independents, Vermont’s Sanders and Maine’s King. Of those 25 Democrat senators...

- 5 Democrats are from states Trump easily carried, by 19 percentage points or more (Indiana, North Dakota, West Virginia, Missouri and Montana).
- 13 are from states Trump won or narrowly lost (Maine, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin).



In PA, Tom Wolf (D) refused to pass a budget unless he got tax increases to saying it was to raise funding on education but R's fought him and Wolf finally passed the budget a year later.

Wolf said the message that came through “loud and clear” in Tuesday’s election was that many people in Pennsylvania are hurting. Wolf said. “We should not ignore this reality.” He said he is going to continue working with R's and D's in Harrisburg to address issues, and he pointed to increased education funding. (in other words, raise taxes to increase funding)

In other words, Tom Wolf didn't learn a thing. These leftie's just don't get it do they?

 

But what's the point in getting new voters if you lose others in the process?

 

How about the non-voters? We didn't wanna end up like that dude who got pulled out of his car and beat the living snoz out of. So we didn't vote. Me, particularly if Trump flops I didn't want the "he voted for Donald Trump" thing on our resume. But you can bet, many of us were and are pissed at that language even if we don't show it in a voting booth.

 

Take a look at the electoral college and get back to me.

 

go ahead and ignore the popular vote then if it makes you feel better. Hopefully your party doesn't.

 

you weren't the only "non voter". Many voters stood home or voted third party because of the two losers we were stuck with. Truth be told, I would have voted for the GOP candidate if it were Kasich. I don't agree with all of his policies or beliefs, but I would have taken him over Clinton, and I suspect many Americans would have also.