NOT the prez election.. Obama and his leftist agenda has decimated his own party

It's not just this election, look at 2010, 2012, 2014 and now 2016. Obama and his leftist agenda has decimated his own party unlike any other modern president.

Obama is good at winning his own elections, but Democrats have lost 13 net Senate seats, 69 House seats, 11 governorships, a whopping 913 state legislature seats and 30 state legislature chambers. That makes Obama the overseer of the biggest loss in Senate seats, House seats and state legislature seats of any of the past seven two-term presidencies.

 

The warning has been there all along, liberal media ignored it, democrats and liberals were just too arrogant to see it, too arrogant to be part of the debate ... calling anyone who dared disagree with you ignorant, intolerant, bigoted, racist, sexist, hateful, stupid, uneducated, despicable's who are irredeemable.

Regardless of the polls and the liberal media spinning do you think those prior outcomes would have told you leftie's anything? Democrats and Liberals are self centered but you should all come out of your little bubble.. a dose of reality.

 

Liberals thought they could control others through political correct speech because they themselves are controlled by this totalitarian mind control. Trying to force their belief of centralized and dictatorial government where the people are collectively subservient to the state.

The principle behind political correctness is raw intimidation, an attempt to force people to think as they do, to be subservient to the liberal belief. If you don't, they call people ugly words in an attempt to silence dissent. Political correctness is an assault on the freedom of the human mind. Liberalism is an assault on the freedom of the human mind.

 

At worst, Obama came across as incredibly weak in standing up for Democratic principles. His concessions on key things like the healthcare industry and his support of Wall St bailouts were demoralizing. Still, people would actually elect him probably over both Hillary and Trump if he could've ran again. Because of this, I personally can't blame Obama (solely) for the issues the Democratic party has.

What decimated the Democratic party was the party being hell bent on paying lip service to very real economic issues while continuing onto business as usual. The exposure of the Democratic party being a thoroughly corrupt entity was something that many people had to vote against. As much as Donald Trump was flawed, he actually represented the underdog in a corrupt two-party system; many people root for underdogs.

 

Obama went full caudillo, raising the notion that his “legacy” that must be protected by voting for Hillary (his choice), vote his preference is what dictators practice, not democracies. All that is missing from this harangue is a military uniform draped with dozens of medals awarded for imaginary feats of bravery.

People rejected Obama 2.0

 

On the surface, Hillary seems Obama 2.0. But when the leaks came out and the rumors were surfacing, it became apparent that she had her own personal policies and connections that she needed to support. She, on an individual level, is corrupt. Thoroughly bad candidate. The DNC is complicit because of the lengths they went in order to shove her into office. They exposed themselves as corrupt. This was bigger than Obama.

 

No matter who destroyed the democratic party, I don't see how they can come back from this. These riots mean that in three years when we have to put up with this stuff again, the thing uppermost in the minds of people will be making sure that the liberal media doesn't make people so afraid that they'll become violent and completely ignore the whole concept of democracy.

Now that the leftist media has been shown to be in the bag with the democrats, they can't really say anything. How could they even host a debate now?

I can't think of a single bridge that they didn't burn to get Hillary elected, and coming up blank.

I know it's pretty normal to think the losing party is history for years to come, but this wasn't a normal election, and between wikilinks, project veritas, the collusion with the media, the lies, and the ensuing violence...

I do think they're pretty much dead.

 

Threads like this are going to be amusing when the pendulum swings back the other way. You frothing at the mouth Trump fanatics better enjoy your short lived victory while you have it, because things eventually will swing back to the left.

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But more people who voted actually voted for so called "Obama 2.0"...

 

Yes. It's been a wipeout. The GOP enjoys strength, depth and breadth of national and local power like it hasn't held for a hundred years. So what happened to the Left?

Well take the protesters, they seem to be protesting Trump but they are actually locked in an imaginary world and battling their own hallucinations of the future. Here’s what triggered them:

1. They believe they are smart and well-informed.

2. Their good judgement told them Trump is OBVIOUSLY the next Hitler, or something similarly bad.

3. Half of the voters of the United States – including a lot of smart people – voted Trump into office anyway.

They can't reconcile that so cognitive dissonance steps in.

One, they can accept that if half the public doesn’t see Trump as a dangerous monster, perhaps he isn’t. But they are smart and well-informed, so cognitive dissonance explains away the discrepancy.

So; Trump’s election, you are smart and well-informed and Trump is OBVIOUSLY a monster?

They solve that incongruity by hallucinating – literally – that Trump supporters KNOW Trump is a monster and they PREFER the monster. In this hallucination, the KKK is not a nutty fringe group but rather a symbol of how all Trump supporters must feel. (They don’t. Not even close.)

In a rational world it would be obvious that Trump supporters include lots of brilliant and well-informed people. That fact – as obvious as it would seem – is invisible to the folks who can’t even imagine a world in which their powers of perception could be so wrong. To reconcile their world, they have to imagine all Trump supporters as defective in some moral or cognitive way, or both.

~ http://blog.dilbert.com/post/153080448451/the-cognitive-dissonance-cluster-bomb

 

Don't get too cocky. Remember, Trump didn't garner any more votes than McCain and Romney did in 2008 and 2012. What happened was that Hillary garnered nearly 10 million fewer than Obama did in his elections.

Democrats just wouldn't vote for her. You've got to give that 10 million credit for giving Trump the win, rather than voting for someone as toxic as Hillary Clinton.

But if Trump doesn't follow through, if he falters and doesn't fight for the things he said he would fight for, and the Dems put up a strong ticket, those 10 million could come back and win in 4 years.

Believe it.

 

Yep, this about sums it up. What the right isn't realizing is that Clinton lost the election more than Trump won it. Trump's a very unpopular and toxic candidate himself. With the right candidate in 2020, the Dems could easily take back the white house.

 

Well I understand Trump's flaws, but I voted for him, and I want him to fight for the things he said he would.

I predicted a Clinton win. Lol, so now I'm not so confident about predicting. I am hoping instead now.

Trump will run into resistance from both sides on some things. All I ask for is that he doesn't cave in, and he fights. I don't predict what he'll do - cave in or fight - but I hope he fights - both sides if necessary.

 

Yeah, I think he knows that he's as deep down the rabbit hole as he can get. It's a strange new world for him with political sharks swirling the waters.

However, I think I know what he's going to do. We saw that during his campaign. He's going to be a bull in a China shop, and manage to do things his way. So long as he has the support of his "alt right" base, he'll be able to do that.

 

I don't buy the "alt right" label.

Trump's got to stick to what he said he would, and he may have to go straight to the people and ask them to burn up the phones in congress from time to time.

This is going to be interesting!

 

Biggot! Xenophobe! RAYCISSSSSSSSSSS!

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I thought SJW's were down with alternate lifestyles? Weird.

 

The Alt-right is what they call themselves.

There's a reason why Trump even involves himself with a piece of crap like Bannon. It's an attempt to appeal to the alt-right/breitbart crowd. He knows those are a significant portion of his voters.

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That's fine that you voted for him, and are a supporter, but you also see reality too. I respect that.

 

I think we're getting a little carried away here, while the Democrats have taken major losses since 2009, they are not in a significantly low place. That's because they didn't fall from a low place, but a very high place. In 2009 they had 58 senate seats and 257 house seats. To put that in perspective, the last time the GOP had 257 house seats was in 1929. and the last time they had 58 senate seats was in 1909.

It's also worth noting that while the Democrats just lost the oval office, they also made gains in both the house and senate. The 2017 federal government will be 47 - 51 in the Senate (2 Independents), and 193- 239

If the Republicans weren't dead in 2009, then the Democrats are probably not dead in 2017

 

Simply excellent thread. It's astonishing to me people talk about the demise of the GOP, when the GOP has taken everything from the Democrats since Obama was elected. The truly hilarious part is, they're not smart enough to blame Obama! lol

 

The pendulum swung to the left (too far) and now "the pendulum" has swung to the right, and the pendulum will swing again to the left, that's a given.

Unfortunate for you and the left, you didn't understand that when you refused to listen to a big swath of the electorate. I always say, don't get too big for your britches because you'll get bit and that's exactly what the left did, they got too big for their britches and they got bit.. BIG!

 

With all those democrat losses, I guess we owe Obama a vote of thanks. It is probably the only good thing he had done, and probably the only positive thing that will show in his legacy.

 

If the GOP flips just one state house from blue to red, it can pass any Constitutional amendment it wants.
Never has one party held so much power.

The Democrats have no one to blame for this but themselves.

 

Here is something to think about. the media mantra was that flipping the Senate to Democrat control was a near sure thing. This is because of the 34 seats up for election in 2016, 24 were held by Republicans. Out of that, Democrats said they could flip enough of the 24 seats to gain majority. Well, things didn't turn out that way, and the GOP still holds the U.S. Senate with 52 seats. Harry Reid is retiring and Democrats held his seat.

Out of 24 seats, how many Democrat seats were gained? 3 seats? with a run off election in Dec 10.

http://www.periodicalpress.senate.gov/reelection-2016/

 

What leftist agenda? The leftist agenda supported sanders not Clinton, and sanders almost pulled it off. People that supported Hillary are not progressives, but modern liberals, and there is a difference. Modern liberals support open borders free trade, along with the GOPhers. They just believe differently on social issues. But progressives are not open borders free traders. They support the working and middle class. They support single payer healthcare and an end to neocon perpetual war for perpetual peace.

So Obama came under plenty of fire from the lefty progressives. No, the revolt within the dem party and the GOP is over ending neoliberalism economics and neocon foreign policy, which both parties have stood for. Obama has simply continued on neoliberal and neocon policies. He is not left in the progressive sense at all. He is establishment status quo oligarchy. Not that much different from Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Hillary would have carried this on.

 

Here is more to think about....

In 2018, their are 33 Senate seats up for grabs, only 8 are Republican and 25 are Democrat, which includes two liberal independents who caucus with the Democrats, one being crazy Bernie.

Many of the seats they have to defend in 2018 are in Trump country. The pressure on these red-state Democrats might be so great that one or more of them might flip to become Republican, with Joe Manchin (West Virginia) being a prime candidate for such a conversion.

 

This also lowers the possibility of a Dem filibuster.