Republicans plan to reintroduce Anti-LGBT ‘religious freedom’ bill supported by Trump

Stop talking about it? You'd like that, wouldn't you.

 

um excuse me freedom for conservatives is illegal.

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As your avatar states "so much win"

 

You still don't get it I see.

You do not have the right to buy a product from a private business in the private sector.... It is up to that private person in that private business to sell that product to you.

It is NOT your right.

 

Where were you supporting freedom of association for all sexual preferences beyond the ones you like?

The hypocrisy of the left is always amusing.

 

Yea, most conservatives are opposed to murdering babies (I absolutely am) - how dare they be opposed to that!!!!!

What makes you think most conservatives even GIVE A DAMN about gay marriage?? most could care less - it's the RINO's that do tho so go attack them.

Oh and of course you want more abortions because you're evil.

 

I saw one the other day.

Traumatic!

Lolololololololol!!!!!!

 

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Good Point. The US and North Korea have something in common.

 

OH enough already. Social conservatives are always making trouble over things. I mean they're boycotting cereal and sending them nasty letters. Any time a store tells gun people to leave about 50 show up open carry and they get a boycott going. Don't be so partisan. Your side does the same things you're accusing the other side of doing.

 

Did I say that?

Imposing is declaring it publicly, as though it matters. It doesn't. No one cares where you put your doodle. I've ordered wedding cakes (including my own) with female friends, and the question of who exactly the couple were never came up. Why in hell would it? You don't tell a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing baker about your love life. The most I've heard is "are you the bride?", followed by "congratulations". And before you say "but what about the decorations !!!!!" ..... wedding cakes with names piped on them went out in the 1980's. No one does that anymore. Or at least, anyone who does deserves discrimination

 

north korea does not allow private citizens the freedom to discriminate on their property.

 

A lot of people like their names on wedding cakes so it'd be easy to tell if it's a gay marriage.

 

how is it 'special'? it's the same right we all have.

 

What you're saying is if you're gay you should try to conceal that you're gay. If that's not a discriminating thought I don't know what is. You want them back in the closet. Nope not happening. Deal with it.

 

It is not the right of that private business owner if he says the reason he won't sell to me is because I'm Christian. That is the law of the country you live in. But it's ok if it's because I'm gay? Or do you disagree with the law here. "Christians not served here" is an illegal sign under current law. Should we change that law in your opinion?

 

Unfortunately, 'desire to b honest' is very often a sanitised version of "the world must know my position". AKA, vanity and ego. If our goal in life is to be kind whenever the opportunity presents itself ... at those times when our ability to be kind is compromised by some unforseen factor (a Christian baker asked to bake a cake for a gay wedding, for egs), it behoves us to decline as kindly as possible .. not utilise the situation to grandstand at the cost of the other person's feelings.

Again, I have more trouble with the way these things are handled, than the things themselves. There'll always be refusals and disappointments in life, it's the nature of existence. It's how we handle them which matters most. The baker could have shut his/her mouth about Jesus, and offered a non-personal reason for refusal (booked out, too busy) - and the customer could have had the grace to avoid taking it personally. Everybody wins, and it's all voluntary.

 

Dear Lord, give it up OP.

This right here is exactly why people simply dont care about the nonsense those on the far left like the OP keep trying to spout off.

It's is the same poster who in other threads keeps trying to scream at the top of his/her lungs "I voted for Trump!" or "I am in the middle, an Independent!" Uh-huh ....

The more the far left spews nonsense like the OP did in this thread the more people are driven away from their ideology. Populism is growing because of the views from both sides of the extreme.

I will soon be a groomsman n my friend Ron's gay wedding. "The Left" has helped push the idea of inclusiveness to let Ron get married and I think it is great!

"The Progressives" are trying to ram things down everyone's throat by threatining people with jail/fines for not baking a freaking cake that goes against their religion.

There is a HUGE difference and people like the OP simply don't get it.

Yes, we understand you hate people on the right/conservatives/Republicans whatever. The more you shout at the top of the lungs that you do so the more people disagree with you. Do you think its an accident that Republicans hold The White House, The Senate and The House?

The only thing that makes sense to me is that you and people like you are a sort of "false flag attack" type of thing. Do you really think this is helping your cause? The People blatantly disagree with you....

As if right now here are the top 10 threads on PoliticalForum.com, the ones in BOLD are the ones started by the OP and are a huge reason why people in the center are turning to the right. I am so sick of my forums and social media being covered in this cry baby, overacting nonsense that I am thinking of actually registering as a Republican....

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So 7 of the top 10 threads were started by the "independent" OP.

So after my long day of work I get to come home to read one of my favorite forums and see an obviously far left Progressive that tries to say he/she is not, yet plasters my media with this.

Again, it has to be a right wing paid person right? If not, do you guys on the left think that this will actually persuade people otherwise?

 

This is an issue of equal rights and whether or not a business entity should have the same rights as a person. I get that you support the side of the business owner enjoying legal protection for telling a homosexual "We don't serve your kind here!" while also enjoying protection against the same action against them.

I can only assume that you believe that the Christian belief is superior to that of homosexuals.

I happen to believe that those who believe we were born sinners due to a talking snake convincing a naked lady to eat an apple thousands of years ago is absolutely ridiculous. Should I deny Christians housing or employment for that reason?

If its not right to have done to you, you shouldn't do it to others. (I think Christians have a saying on the subject!)

 

You saw what? A transgender in the wrong bathroom? Kinda confused as to what you are trying to say here.

 

Thats why SJW who are almost unanimously democrats focus on just about every petty social issue that exists lol.

 

Slightly off topic ... Progressives would do well to consider Singapore and North Korea in comparison (to each other, and to America). Both are authoritarian, but are quite different in application. Both are examples of what a society with enforced conformity looks like. I understand it's difficult to travel to NK (though not impossible, we have good friends who did it), but it's an easy enough thing to spend time in Singapore. I've done it many times. I recommend it for all Progressives who are genuinely interested in avoiding the pitfalls of legislating thought.

 

No, I'm saying that it's none of a BAKER'S business who you marry. Why would it even enter the dialog? Do you go to the bank and talk to the teller about your hot date on Sat night, or the big fight you guys had on Tues morning? No, you go to the hairdresser for that stuff (if you're one of those people who thinks their hairdresser is their BFF). This isn't the marriage celebrant or minister, it's the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing cake maker.

 

ANd you wish to live in a world where people are forced to serve those they do not like.

 

well then they deserve ridicule. that's so last century.

 

Irrelevant because most of the country isnt racist and do not discriminate in who they sell to.

 

Good lord man. You seem to have lost your ability to comprehend what you read.

I said "you cannot deny a right to religious freedom, by citing your right to religious freedom". I never said you have a right to buy a cake. I said that the cake maker cant use "your denying my religious rights" to deny a religious right.